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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
Why does everyone assume this is how it works?

The habs could simply come up with a bunch of comparable players such as Pietrangelo or even Karlsson for example. And tell the arbitrator to look at how much those guys make.

- Pecafan Fan


Not really. These 2 were at their 2nd contract and did not have access to arbitration. The only comparable is Yandle, who signed for 5.25M per for 5 years.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
Not really. These 2 were at their 2nd contract and did not have access to arbitration. The only comparable is Yandle, who signe for 5.25M per for 5 years.
- fidopro

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
Why?
- Pecafan Fan

As I posted, I had a feeling it wasn't clear. I was agreeing with you. What I meant is that with a younger, less accomplished player, the team may rip him apart to try and keep the award down. That isn't the case here.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
Could have been indigestion, a bad back, a headache...
- hscesq


...poop cramps?
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
Because he walked out of the room, and one reporter said he didn't look happy?
- hscesq

he had diahrea yesterday per 690.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
Someone made a valid point on twitter. Subban's side was presenting their case first, and with the breaks taking place it's not likely that the Habs have presented their's yet. So it's odd that Subban would seem unhappy at this point.
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
Someone made a valid point on twitter. Subban's side was presenting their case first, and with the breaks taking place it's not likely that the Habs have presented their's yet. So it's odd that Subban would seem unhappy at this point.
- ehabs9

@goodguyydan?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
As I posted, I had a feeling it wasn't clear. I was agreeing with you. What I meant is that with a younger, less accomplished player, the team may rip him apart to try and keep the award down. That isn't the case here.
- hscesq


Yeah I don't think Bergevin is there trying to tear Subban's game apart in front of an arbitrator.

It makes no sense at all. They're talking business, not what happens on the ice.
hscesq
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Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
Someone made a valid point on twitter. Subban's side was presenting their case first, and with the breaks taking place it's not likely that the Habs have presented their's yet. So it's odd that Subban would seem unhappy at this point.
- ehabs9

Maybe he received a text canceling a date? Maybe he was supposed to have a car delivered and it's delayed. Maybe....ANYTHING!!
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
@goodguyydan?
- AGalchenyuk27


I'd have to go look again. I don't think it was him though.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
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Joined: 04.19.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
is there a pic that can show me which way the exit is?
- Crimsoninja


-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 1 @ 12:15 PM ET

- Crimsoninja


lol
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Maybe he received a text canceling a date? Maybe he was supposed to have a car delivered and it's delayed. Maybe....ANYTHING!!
- hscesq


Maybe he finally saw the tweets from the Bruins fans during the playoffs?
Cyberhabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Crazy how a single BJ from Symba inspired Dyson to build an empire, ON
Joined: 08.05.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Maybe he finally saw the tweets from the Bruins fans during the playoffs?
- 3M


Maybe Nonis has been texting him for updates?
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Maybe he received a text canceling a date? Maybe he was supposed to have a car delivered and it's delayed. Maybe....ANYTHING!!
- hscesq



Personally I'd always exit a court room looking stern. Even if you were happy with what just transpired, you look stupid if you come out looking anything but deadly serious.
Not_Yan
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Aug 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Maybe Nonis has been texting him for updates?
- Cyberhabs


Maybe Lindros called and said HI
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Could have been indigestion, a bad back, a headache...
- hscesq


We know what caused the headache
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Maybe Lindros called and said HI
- Not_Yan

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Maybe Lindros called and said HI
- Not_Yan


(frank) you Kato,
I say that in all respect, obviously
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Because he walked out of the room, and one reporter said he didn't look happy?
- hscesq


No, because most of the players and/or management are not happy with that process. Wich is why most teams ended up working a deal before reaching that point.
Cyberhabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Crazy how a single BJ from Symba inspired Dyson to build an empire, ON
Joined: 08.05.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Maybe Lindros called and said HI
- Not_Yan


OMG!!! OUIIIIIII!!!!
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
On the other hand, it's been 3 hours of sitting around listening to people talk, and it's not even over. I'd look unhappy too.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Maybe he received a text canceling a date? Maybe he was supposed to have a car delivered and it's delayed. Maybe....ANYTHING!!
- hscesq



What the hell did they put in his coffee.. This should be done by now.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Aug 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Eric Engels: Contract for Subban is Really About Respect
- EricEngels



what a bunch of asses to let the subban contract situation go to arbitration. bergevin playing a high stakes game of chicken, and therrien is cheering him on.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
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Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:19 PM ET
Why does everyone assume this is how it works?

The habs could simply come up with a bunch of comparable players such as Pietrangelo or even Karlsson for example. And tell the arbitrator to look at how much those guys make.

- Pecafan Fan


Players who have been through it before repeatedly say that it's a bad experience. They often come out saying things like "You don't like hearing things like that said about yourself."
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