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basementfloor
Montreal Canadiens
Location: My Big Mac only had one meat and too much special sauce :(
Joined: 08.05.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:40 AM ET
Rather than make $80 Million over 10 years? I like the way you think.
- hscesq


it's about respect remember?
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:40 AM ET
it's about respect remember?
- basementfloor

Oh right. Forgot.
WaterBoy
Location: THIS BLOG SUCKS!, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 30 @ 11:40 AM ET
Because the notion that they will still have the power is a tenuous one at best.
- hscesq

You're drunk with power
StormCloud
Location: I think what makes Sekac so versatile is the fact that his hockey smarts are off the charts good. -
Joined: 05.15.2014

Jul 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
Why give him all the money in the world now when you can still save a bit and have the power to do so ?
- WaterBoy

because if he has to go through arbitration and does only sign for one year, despite winning a Norris*, he's much more likely to feel disrespected. He's also more likely to say...well...ok...I may as wait just one more year and get 30 teams bidding for me.
WaterBoy
Location: THIS BLOG SUCKS!, YT
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Jul 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
it's about respect remember?
- basementfloor

Cue in EK
oilstone
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ME
Joined: 11.15.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
Rather than make $80 Million over 10 years? I like the way you think.
- hscesq

He's going to make his money where ever he plays
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jul 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
Why give him all the money in the world now when you can still save a bit and have the power to do so ?
- WaterBoy



Less now means more later...and later other players will need more money too...

It makes sense to sign him now at whatever that price is than to pay 10 to 15% more in a year or two.

how's that for stupid?
StormCloud
Location: I think what makes Sekac so versatile is the fact that his hockey smarts are off the charts good. -
Joined: 05.15.2014

Jul 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
Because the notion that they will still have the power is a tenuous one at best.
- hscesq

This.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
because if he has to go through arbitration and does only sign for one year, despite winning a Norris*, he's much more likely to feel disrespected. He's also more likely to say...well...ok...I may as wait just one more year and get 30 teams bidding for me.
- StormCloud


OMG TRADE SUBBAN NOW!!!!
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
He's going to make his money where ever he plays
- oilstone

What if he rips his knee apart during the season?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
What if he rips his knee apart during the season?
- hscesq


He'll become Andrei Markov.
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , YT
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
He should play out the 2 yrs to unrestricted and say screw Montreal.
- oilstone

Rattled
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
Cue in EK
- WaterBoy


I'm pretty sure they will skip arbitration. I certainly hope so.
WaterBoy
Location: THIS BLOG SUCKS!, YT
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Jul 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
because if he has to go through arbitration and does only sign for one year, despite winning a Norris*, he's much more likely to feel disrespected. He's also more likely to say...well...ok...I may as wait just one more year and get 30 teams bidding for me.
- StormCloud

This respect thing is as stupid as the class thing.


All BS.

PK let's his agent do the dealing and he'll show up to camp ready to be the Habs best player.

Funny how people perceive negotiating as a way to lose respect.

Most places in the world, negotiating will garner more respect between both parties once a deal is reached.
StormCloud
Location: I think what makes Sekac so versatile is the fact that his hockey smarts are off the charts good. -
Joined: 05.15.2014

Jul 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
OMG TRADE SUBBAN NOW!!!!
- Pecafan Fan

Never said that at all.

I just think signing him for only 1 year now doesn't make a lot of sense.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
Never said that at all.

I just think signing him for only 1 year now doesn't make a lot of sense.

- StormCloud



It doesn't.

But it buys time for Montreal to come up with a long term deal.
noffsin6
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 08.01.2006

Jul 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
No it's not.

he's still got 2 years to go before he becomes a UFA.

- WaterBoy


There is a reason teams don't do this with their top players, it doesn't end well.

He might sign in those 2 years, but only for $10 million a year or more. Because some GM will give him that as a UFA. And with only one year to wait for it he'll have all the leverage. And after the Canadians using their leverage on him repeatedly, I doubt he'll be shy about using it on them.
StormCloud
Location: I think what makes Sekac so versatile is the fact that his hockey smarts are off the charts good. -
Joined: 05.15.2014

Jul 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
This respect thing is as stupid as the class thing.


All BS.

PK let's his agent do the dealing and he'll show up to camp ready to be the Habs best player.

Funny how people perceive negotiating as a way to lose respect.

Most places in the world, negotiating will garner more respect between both parties once a deal is reached.

- WaterBoy

Negotiation...maybe.
Arbitration....wrong.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
Montreal should do like the Leafs did with Phaneuf.

Cave and massively overpay.
oilstone
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ME
Joined: 11.15.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
Subban would look great in a oilers sweater feeding hall, nuge, ebs, perron, and yak with the long stretch pass
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , YT
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
This respect thing is as stupid as the class thing.


All BS.

PK let's his agent do the dealing and he'll show up to camp ready to be the Habs best player.

Funny how people perceive negotiating as a way to lose respect.

Most places in the world, negotiating will garner more respect between both parties once a deal is reached.

- WaterBoy

Smartest thing you have ever posted.
StormCloud
Location: I think what makes Sekac so versatile is the fact that his hockey smarts are off the charts good. -
Joined: 05.15.2014

Jul 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
It doesn't.

But it buys time for Montreal to come up with a long term deal.

- Pecafan Fan

I have very little doubt he'll be signed for long term in the next day or two.
basementfloor
Montreal Canadiens
Location: My Big Mac only had one meat and too much special sauce :(
Joined: 08.05.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
This respect thing is as stupid as the class thing.


All BS.

PK let's his agent do the dealing and he'll show up to camp ready to be the Habs best player.

Funny how people perceive negotiating as a way to lose respect.

Most places in the world, negotiating will garner more respect between both parties once a deal is reached.

- WaterBoy




it's actually quite the opposite.


It's only in the western world that a win-win solution is viewed as a successful negotiation outcome.

In most other places such as Asia, the middle-east, etc, leaving anything on the table is viewed as disgrace and the aim of any negotiation is to crush the other party. I other words, to disrespect him.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
Subban would look great in a oilers sweater feedin hall, nuge, ebs, perron, and yak with the long stretch pass
- oilstone


Bet he's dying to play in Edmonton. That's why a deal isn't reached yet between him and Montreal.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
Montreal should do like the Leafs did with Phaneuf.

Cave and massively overpay.

- Pecafan Fan

Yes!!!!!
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