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AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 31 @ 8:14 AM ET
Best deal for the team is either 1 year or 8 years IMO.
- golfingsince

8 yrs 68m?
bixll
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Jul 31 @ 8:14 AM ET
if he signs for 2 yrs, does he get moved before his next deal. ?
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 31 @ 8:16 AM ET
if he signs for 2 yrs, does he get moved before his next deal. ?
- bixll

depends on negociations I assume.
bixll
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Jul 31 @ 8:19 AM ET
depends on negociations I assume.
- AGalchenyuk27



Let me ask it differently then.

If he only signs a short deal,,,,, Does he sign another deal with the Habs ?
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 31 @ 8:21 AM ET
if he signs for 2 yrs, does he get moved before his next deal. ?
- bixll


2 years will never happen. Arbitration is 1 and if that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if a trade happened near the draft next summer. Might not, but that would be my guess.
AGalchenyuk27
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Jul 31 @ 8:21 AM ET
Subban’s camp is believed to be looking at between $7.5 million and $8 million, per year, on a long-term contract.

Both parties appear set on a long-term commitment — seven or eight years, a source confirmed — but the barrier currently revolves around Subban’s annual salary.”
hscesq
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Jul 31 @ 8:22 AM ET
2 years will never happen. Arbitration is 1 and if that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if a trade happened near the draft next summer. Might not, but that would be my guess.
- kev1586

They could agree on a two year deal.
AGalchenyuk27
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Jul 31 @ 8:22 AM ET
2 years will never happen. Arbitration is 1 and if that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if a trade happened near the draft next summer. Might not, but that would be my guess.
- kev1586

He won't be traded.
golfingsince
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Jul 31 @ 8:22 AM ET
8 yrs 68m?
- AGalchenyuk27


I think it's a fair deal.
hscesq
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Jul 31 @ 8:22 AM ET
Subban’s camp is believed to be looking at between $7.5 million and $8 million, per year, on a long-term contract.

Both parties appear set on a long-term commitment — seven or eight years, a source confirmed — but the barrier currently revolves around Subban’s annual salary.”

- AGalchenyuk27

So he's being reasonable, and the Habs are not?
kev1586
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Jul 31 @ 8:23 AM ET
Subban’s camp is believed to be looking at between $7.5 million and $8 million, per year, on a long-term contract.

Both parties appear set on a long-term commitment — seven or eight years, a source confirmed — but the barrier currently revolves around Subban’s annual salary.”

- AGalchenyuk27


Source? Because last I heard, Bergevin's offer was at 8.75 per over 8...
AGalchenyuk27
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Jul 31 @ 8:23 AM ET
So he's being reasonable, and the Habs are not?
- hscesq

Sounds like that want it 6.5 - 7 range?
kev1586
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Jul 31 @ 8:24 AM ET
They could agree on a two year deal.
- hscesq


If That happens then Bergevin should be fired on the spot.
AGalchenyuk27
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Jul 31 @ 8:24 AM ET
Source? Because last I heard, Bergevin's offer was at 8.75 per over 8...
- kev1586

can't see that being true. Look at that arb number.
kev1586
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Jul 31 @ 8:25 AM ET
can't see that being true. Look at that arb number.
- AGalchenyuk27


Arbitration number says that Subban wants 8.5 as RFA which means he wants more as UfA (anything over 2 years)
hscesq
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Jul 31 @ 8:25 AM ET
Sounds like that want it 6.5 - 7 range?
- AGalchenyuk27

The arb number was just that - an arb number. I am sure they realize that for long term, they need to be near $8M.
AGalchenyuk27
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Jul 31 @ 8:25 AM ET
Source? Because last I heard, Bergevin's offer was at 8.75 per over 8...
- kev1586

from the 4th period:
” The Canadiens filed a one-year, $5.25 million offer through arbitration, while Subban’s camp is asking for $8.5 million.
While though numbers have been strategically presented in the event the two sides cannot agree to a deal and arbitration is the last resort, it’s believed the Canadiens are hoping to sign Subban to a long-term deal worth between $6.5 million to $7 million, per season.
golfingsince
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Jul 31 @ 8:25 AM ET
can't see that being true. Look at that arb number.
- AGalchenyuk27


But that's on a 1 year deal. When you start buying those UFA years the number goes up.
AGalchenyuk27
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Jul 31 @ 8:26 AM ET
Arbitration number says that Subban wants 8.5 as RFA which means he wants more as UfA (anything over 2 years)
- kev1586

u said the Habs offered 8.75 not PK wants it.
Pecafan Fan
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Jul 31 @ 8:26 AM ET
from the 4th period:

- AGalchenyuk27



hscesq
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Jul 31 @ 8:28 AM ET

- Pecafan Fan

AGalchenyuk27
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Jul 31 @ 8:28 AM ET
But that's on a 1 year deal. When you start buying those UFA years the number goes up.
- golfingsince

he said the Habs have offered 8.75 over 8. If I am PK I jump at that.
kev1586
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Jul 31 @ 8:29 AM ET
u said the Habs offered 8.75 not PK wants it.
- AGalchenyuk27


Subban is holding at 9.5. Notice how neither side is shooting arrows just yet? It will come down to the wire. Bergevin trying to hold out to meet at 9, Meehan holding out hoping to meet at 9.25... Just a matter of who blinks first (if the scenario I'm describing is actually what is going on)
golfingsince
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Jul 31 @ 8:29 AM ET
he said the Habs have offered 8.75 over 8. If I am PK I jump at that.
- AGalchenyuk27


It would make him the highest paid dman in the league wouldn't it ?
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 31 @ 8:29 AM ET
Subban’s camp is believed to be looking at between $7.5 million and $8 million, per year, on a long-term contract.

Both parties appear set on a long-term commitment — seven or eight years, a source confirmed — but the barrier currently revolves around Subban’s annual salary.”

- AGalchenyuk27

Anything less than 8 million a year is a steal. Look at the contracts being handed out this year. Orpik, niskinen, Andy Greene yesterday at over 5 mill a year. Plus the fact he has been underpaid for the last 4 years
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