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AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , YT
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Tell fountain to call me!
- hscesq

1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Oh, I really don't know. But if I had to guess, I would think $7.5-$8M a year and anything 5 years or more would suffice.
- hscesq


I would bet you and MB have a similar idea, which is why they're in this situation. I would give him 8x9.5, easy.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Aug 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
Has any team ever walked away from an arbitrated award?

Sure. Boston walked on Kristich, who promptly signed up for the Maple Leafs Retirement Program.

- 3M

2009-2010 - The Blackhawks win Stanley Cup. Young Goalie Antti Niemi a RFA elects to go to Arbitration. His main argument was winning the Stanley Cup. Awarded 2.75mil annually, the Blackhawks walk away making Niemi a UFA.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
Oh, I really don't know. But if I had to guess, I would think $7.5-$8M a year and anything 5 years or more would suffice.
- hscesq


What if he asks for 9.5M per for 5 years or more?
Because most probably, Habs would be ready to sign a deal like you just mentionned, don't you think?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
2009-2010 - The Blackhawks win Stanley Cup. Young Goalie Antti Niemi a RFA elects to go to Arbitration. His main argument was winning the Stanley Cup. Awarded 2.75mil annually, the Blackhawks walk away making Niemi a UFA.
- l3ig_l2ecl


very late, sorry
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Woll vs Bob, the great goalie suck-off -Daeth
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
ROR is tremendously overrated.
- 3M


You think so? I'd love to have the solid two way game on the Leafs.

Of course, YOUR team didn't give up 40 shots a game last year.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
I would bet you and MB have a similar idea, which is why they're in this situation. I would give him 8x9.5, easy.
- 1979AD


Then again, you were probably excited for the Clarkson deal.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Aug 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
very late, sorry
- fidopro



Didn't see the answer previously
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
Since you're asking.

I'd give him 8 at at a cap hit of 7ish, back loaded.

If he doesn't want that, he can go piss up a rope.

- pete26


This isn't 2008 anymore. You've got to pay superstars superstar money to lock them up long term. Especially their prime years.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Lots of racetrack still to be run with Subban and MTL but it's far from an ideal situation.

@TSNBobMcKenzie: The longer Subban goes without a new long-term contract in MTL, logic suggests the odds increase of him going to UFA or being traded.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
What if he asks for 9.5M per for 5 years or more?
Because most probably, Habs would be ready to sign a deal like you just mentionned, don't you think?

- fidopro

I would think they would, yes.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
Oh, I really don't know. But if I had to guess, I would think $7.5-$8M a year and anything 5 years or more would suffice.
- hscesq


Gotta think Bergevin jumps on this if that's the case...
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
Well everything is always two steps forward one step back, and we've had a flurry of good decisions from management over the last little while.

This kind of feels less like a step, and more like falling backwards off a cliff, but maybe that's just because I have Subban jersey
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Lots of racetrack still to be run with Subban and MTL but it's far from an ideal situation.

@TSNBobMcKenzie: The longer Subban goes without a new long-term contract in MTL, logic suggests the odds increase of him going to UFA or being traded.

- bixll


That's kinda obvious Bob. Thanks.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
This isn't 2008 anymore. You've got to pay superstars superstar money to lock them up long term. Especially their prime years.
- 1979AD

Can he still piss up a rope? Cuz that'd be pretty cool to see.
EssuieToutJeune
Nashville Predators
Location: See, what actually happens is just one of many probabilities and one of the biggest weaknessesblabla
Joined: 03.01.2013

Aug 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
Non mais ferme ta (frank)ing gueule Brian Wilde.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 1 @ 2:02 PM ET
Then again, you were probably excited for the Clarkson deal.
- golfingsince


He still has 6 years left on that contract to redeem himself
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:02 PM ET
Gotta think Bergevin jumps on this if that's the case...
- kev1586


The problem is PK probably wants way more, which I wouldn't pay either.
habs12
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cole Harbour, NS
Joined: 04.29.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:02 PM ET
Since you're asking.

I'd give him 8 at at a cap hit of 7ish, back loaded.

If he doesn't want that, he can go piss up a rope.

- pete26

On an eight year deal I expect he'll be pissing up a rope then
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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Aug 1 @ 2:02 PM ET
He still has 6 years left on that contract to redeem himself
- 1979AD


He's a 30 goal scorer!!
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Aug 1 @ 2:02 PM ET
Since you're asking.

I'd give him 8 at at a cap hit of 7ish, back loaded.

If he doesn't want that, he can go piss up a rope.

- pete26


8 years, $70M.

$8.75M AAV.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
8 years, $70M.

$8.75M AAV.

- 3M


Bet he wants 10 per if it'S for 8 years.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
8 years, $70M.

$8.75M AAV.

- 3M


Do you think that's what PK wants or what Bergevin is offering?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
Bet he wants 10 per if it'S for 8 years.
- Pecafan Fan


Why not give 11 and be done with it.

NEXT!!!
habs12
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cole Harbour, NS
Joined: 04.29.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
8 years, $70M.

$8.75M AAV.

- 3M

seems reasonable
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