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mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 30 @ 10:16 AM ET
I would of liked any of those 3
- JCSabs06


Agreed.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
I thought I read he hasn't been since 2010...?
Was that proven false yesterday?
I'll have to dig today when I have more time.

- jochfr



*shrug*

This is on the Islanders website

http://islanders.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=43587

No mention of him leaving the organization
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 30 @ 10:41 AM ET
What negativity? The internet rumor negativity?
- sbroads24



Homer's statement a couple days ago really didn't state much that already wasn't known about him. Sure, "the guy does absolutely nothing" is probably hyperbole, but it's well known back to 1997 that he's more hands-off than most people out there. It's one thing to let assistants handle the details. It's another thing to not have a hand in what's going on. He's been known to be a "I don't care what the gameplan is, just play real hard". It's why the Sabres got their asses kicked in the 2nd round in 1997, and should have lost in the first round if not for a hole in Ron Tugnutt's glove.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Homer's statement a couple days ago really didn't state much that already wasn't known about him. Sure, "the guy does absolutely nothing" is probably hyperbole, but it's well known back to 1997 that he's more hands-off than most people out there. It's one thing to let assistants handle the details. It's another thing to not have a hand in what's going on. He's been known to be a "I don't care what the gameplan is, just play real hard". It's why the Sabres got their asses kicked in the 2nd round in 1997, and should have lost in the first round if not for a hole in Ron Tugnutt's glove.
- buffalofan19

Let's be honest with ourselves here, we have a 30th place team, we weren't getting a Mike Babcock here when Rolston was fired. We got a head coach with experience, who is respected by the players. Something that was severely lacking here.

Nolan IMO will be gone when this team is ready to jump from young and upcoming to contender. There is literally no reason to be upset that he's the coach at this juncture. The young kids will be sheltered, the vets will show them how to act professional. This is in fact a step forward. It's finally being run like a professional and competitive organization.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
All I know is I want a defensive coach that is going to tell these guys to stand up at the blueline, none of this back up to the goalie crap like we had.
OGAR91
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 03.11.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:19 AM ET
Let's be honest with ourselves here, we have a 30th place team, we weren't getting a Mike Babcock here when Rolston was fired. We got a head coach with experience, who is respected by the players. Something that was severely lacking here.

Nolan IMO will be gone when this team is ready to jump from young and upcoming to contender. There is literally no reason to be upset that he's the coach at this juncture. The young kids will be sheltered, the vets will show them how to act professional. This is in fact a step forward. It's finally being run like a professional and competitive organization.

- sbroads24

This
OGAR91
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 03.11.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:27 AM ET
Let's be honest with ourselves here, we have a 30th place team, we weren't getting a Mike Babcock here when Rolston was fired. We got a head coach with experience, who is respected by the players. Something that was severely lacking here.

Nolan IMO will be gone when this team is ready to jump from young and upcoming to contender. There is literally no reason to be upset that he's the coach at this juncture. The young kids will be sheltered, the vets will show them how to act professional. This is in fact a step forward. It's finally being run like a professional and competitive organization.

- sbroads24

Teams go through different phases. When the Hawks were still an up and coming team, they were coached by Denis Savard. Once they were ready to jump into contention, Coach Q was brought on board. We will probably have Nolan for a couple seasons and then be bringing someone else on board.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
Teams go through different phases. When the Hawks were still an up and coming team, they were coached by Denis Savard. Once they were ready to jump into contention, Coach Q was brought on board. We will probably have Nolan for a couple seasons and then be bringing someone else on board.
- OGAR91

And despite Savard never "doing it as a coach" he was a fine interim solution until Quennville came aboard


The worry about Nolan is 100% pointless
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
Let's be honest with ourselves here, we have a 30th place team, we weren't getting a Mike Babcock here when Rolston was fired. We got a head coach with experience, who is respected by the players. Something that was severely lacking here.

Nolan IMO will be gone when this team is ready to jump from young and upcoming to contender. There is literally no reason to be upset that he's the coach at this juncture. The young kids will be sheltered, the vets will show them how to act professional. This is in fact a step forward. It's finally being run like a professional and competitive organization.

- sbroads24



Not only do I agree with this, but when Nolan is let go, what will he have to be mad about? Sitting on the couch vs coaching in the NHL.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 30 @ 11:49 AM ET
Not only do I agree with this, but when Nolan is let go, what will he have to be mad about? Sitting on the couch vs coaching in the NHL.
- Buffalo-Sabres

He could feel mad that he wasn't given a chance when this team was intact and ready to compete, but that's something he will have to deal with. I mean it's not inconceivable that he sticks around but I doubt it
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:51 AM ET
He could feel mad that he wasn't given a chance when this team was intact and ready to compete, but that's something he will have to deal with. I mean it's not inconceivable that he sticks around but I doubt it
- sbroads24



If the team and players grow and accomplish things them by all means ride it out.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:56 AM ET
He was still in the player development business until now, so it's not like he's been sitting in his rocking chair.

There's no denying that he hasn't been a coach for a while, but he's still been in the business at a hands on level.

- stashu


If I could do this gently, he was removed from the Islanders Exec Player of Development in 2010

http://www.newsday.com/sp...yer-development-1.2088481
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 30 @ 12:00 PM ET
If I could do this gently, he was removed from the Islanders Exec Player of Development in 2010

http://www.newsday.com/sp...yer-development-1.2088481

- GilPerreault11


'perciate it. I find it odd that the Islanders own site doesn't say that on his page.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 30 @ 12:36 PM ET
'perciate it. I find it odd that the Islanders own site doesn't say that on his page.


- stashu



It is odd, but they're not the first nor will they be the last big company to not keep their website up to date.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
Let's be honest with ourselves here, we have a 30th place team, we weren't getting a Mike Babcock here when Rolston was fired. We got a head coach with experience, who is respected by the players. Something that was severely lacking here.

Nolan IMO will be gone when this team is ready to jump from young and upcoming to contender. There is literally no reason to be upset that he's the coach at this juncture. The young kids will be sheltered, the vets will show them how to act professional. This is in fact a step forward. It's finally being run like a professional and competitive organization.

- sbroads24




Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 30 @ 12:47 PM ET
It is odd, but they're not the first nor will they be the last big company to not keep their website up to date.
- buffalofan19


Have not corrected it in 4 years ? Yet everything else on the site is up to date . Time to fire that webmaster.



sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 30 @ 12:48 PM ET
This is from EK's blog on Subban

"It is one thing to ask a defenseman to play 35 minutes in a game. Many can handle that kind of workload because they are defenseman and they have the ability to play a controlled game using there and it utilizing their energy in short spurts.

PK Subban is not that kind of defenseman. He is not only their best defenseman he is there best forward. PK plays 200 feet games not 70 foot games. He does not play a controlled style utilizing his energy and spirits. He goes all out all the time."


It's an interesting point and one that I have made describing Myers style of play. IMO you need your franchise defensemen to play in all situations, and him being out of gas from having to act like a forward is a poor excuse. That's why I'm hoping that Ristolainen will provide that 25-27 minute a night player that will allow Myers to play the Subban style he did during last season
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:51 PM ET
So apparently 6 cups as a player and 1 as an assistant isn't 'more bonafide'? Come on man.
- TheSabresTaco



Looks like LaFontaine finally got his guy with "CUPS".


Oh wait.........
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 30 @ 12:51 PM ET
This is from EK's blog on Subban

"It is one thing to ask a defenseman to play 35 minutes in a game. Many can handle that kind of workload because they are defenseman and they have the ability to play a controlled game using there and it utilizing their energy in short spurts.

PK Subban is not that kind of defenseman. He is not only their best defenseman he is there best forward. PK plays 200 feet games not 70 foot games. He does not play a controlled style utilizing his energy and spirits. He goes all out all the time."


It's an interesting point and one that I have made describing Myers style of play. IMO you need your franchise defensemen to play in all situations, and him being out of gas from having to act like a forward is a poor excuse. That's why I'm hoping that Ristolainen will provide that 25-27 minute a night player that will allow Myers to play the Subban style he did during last season

- sbroads24


It begs the question, though, how valuable is that kind of player really? To me, if a player "needs" another player to do what he does best, his value is overstated.

Now, granted, Myers is getting $5.5 million a year for the foreseeable future, while Subban is asking for $8.5 million.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
Yeah, but you can't teach someone to do something you've never done. And he's done it. Which is why I have no reason to doubt him yet.
- TheSabresTaco



Scotty Bowman.....



End of story.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
Have not corrected it in 4 years ? Yet everything else on the site is up to date . Time to fire that webmaster.




- Maximum Signal


Or they allowed him to keep the title as a figurehead due to his HOF status and greatness as a player in the organization.

Some very smart poster on another Sabres site from Long Island said he has seen hin greeting fans over the last few years at games and open practices.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 30 @ 12:53 PM ET
Scotty Bowman.....



End of story.

- dadeadhead



I was going to use him as an example, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something since the guy has been around a long, long time.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 30 @ 12:55 PM ET
So if Pegula does win the bid to own the Bills, how long will the due diligence process take this time?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:58 PM ET
I was going to use him as an example, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something since the guy has been around a long, long time.
- buffalofan19



Never played a lick of NHL hockey.

Became an assistant at age 23

Head Coach at 24

Worked the ranks until he was hired as Head Coach of the Blues at age 34.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 30 @ 12:59 PM ET
It begs the question, though, how valuable is that kind of player really? To me, if a player "needs" another player to do what he does best, his value is overstated.

Now, granted, Myers is getting $5.5 million a year for the foreseeable future, while Subban is asking for $8.5 million.

- buffalofan19

If Myers can't be on the ice at the end of the game to protect a lead because he's gassed or not responsible enough then IMO it's an issue (which Subban has been left on the bench) however on this team that hasn't been the case with Myers.

However it becomes a non-issue if you have that rock #2 defensemen back there.

It's like in Chicago, sometimes Keith and Seabrook get all the offensive opportunities, and Hjalmarsson gets stuck protecting the D-zone.
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