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aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
He won't be here when we are competing for a cup IMO, but to act like he just walks around the building and delegates responsibilities to his assistants is a hilarious take. He's been known to be heavily involved, especially with the players
- sbroads24



I think he has a good eye for talent...and....i think he knows how to get through to players and get the most out of them....but, i have heard his assistants mostly draw up the offensive and Defensive systems, and run the practices
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
Ted Nolan isn't the first head coach in any professional sport to primarily delegate himself the responsibility of motivating his players while delegating all the details to his assistants. That model rarely works in the long run, however. I'd like to think that as soon as this team is ready to seriously contend, he's shown the door, or given some sort of job in the front office, but Terry Pegula, the guy who signs the checks, has a history of being a little too nostalgic. Sure, in theory, Tim Murray is supposed to make all the decisions, but I don't believe for one second that he won't have to justify such a significant move to the owner first. We're still talking about the guy who said, in response to a question about Darcy Regier: "what has he done wrong?". And it only took the team being on the brink of a public relations disaster for Pegula to finally sign off on the firing of both Ruff and Regier.
- buffalofan19

I'm pretty sure Murray has authority to make that call.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
I'm pretty sure Murray has authority to make that call.
- sbroads24



I'd like to think so, but the history, albeit a very short one, indicates otherwise.
MrSquirrel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
Luke Adam will never make the NHL full time, slow and plays zero defense. Total waste of time in AHL
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
Ted Nolan isn't the first head coach in any professional sport to primarily delegate himself the responsibility of motivating his players while delegating all the details to his assistants. That model rarely works in the long run, however. I'd like to think that as soon as this team is ready to seriously contend, he's shown the door, or given some sort of job in the front office, but Terry Pegula, the guy who signs the checks, has a history of being a little too nostalgic. Sure, in theory, Tim Murray is supposed to make all the decisions, but I don't believe for one second that he won't have to justify such a significant move to the owner first. We're still talking about the guy who said, in response to a question about Darcy Regier: "what has he done wrong?". And it only took the team being on the brink of a public relations disaster for Pegula to finally sign off on the firing of both Ruff and Regier.
- buffalofan19



All of it, good.

We've kind of painted ourselves in a corner by hiring Nolan. Now, even if the team doesn't perform down the road as they should, Nolan being fired will cause a bit of outrage in some fan circles, other nostalgic types. If it was anyone other than a guy with ties to the Sabres history, they would say we didn't ditch him soon enough.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:34 PM ET
All of it, good.

We've kind of painted ourselves in a corner by hiring Nolan. Now, even if the team doesn't perform down the road as they should, Nolan being fired will cause a bit of outrage in some fan circles, other nostalgic types. If it was anyone other than a guy with ties to the Sabres history, they would say we didn't ditch him soon enough.

- Buffalo-Sabres



As Tim Murray might say, "zero f#&ks given". I don't think he cares about public perception.

Murray did the smart thing by retaining Nolan. He'll be very easy to fire, as he wasn't really Murray's choice.
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:35 PM ET
I'm pretty sure Murray has authority to make that call.
- sbroads24



i think he can and he will....when the time comes...but i also believe Terry, black, and their advisers will want Their say in the decision and any other major moves....that may be why Lafontaine up and quit on them.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:36 PM ET
i think he can and he will....when the time comes...but i also believe Terry, black, and their advisers will want Their say in the decision and any other major moves....that may be why Lafontain up and quit on them.
- aschwach



"Ah, ah, ah! Patty was fired."

-Bucky Gleason
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:41 PM ET
"Ah, ah, ah! Patty was fired."

-Bucky Gleason

- buffalofan19



i rarely read Bucky's articles....so i don't mean to be ignorent to this...but was Bucky surmising this or was there real proof he was fired?
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
As Tim Murray might say, "zero f#&ks given". I don't think he cares about public perception.

Murray did the smart thing by retaining Nolan. He'll be very easy to fire, as he wasn't really Murray's choice.

- grand-magus




Murray seems like he would fire his cousin. But you have to admit because its "Nolan" there is that added layer of thought that will go into that one.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:50 PM ET
i rarely read Bucky's articles....so i don't mean to be ignorent to this...but was Bucky surmising this or was there real proof he was fired?
- aschwach



He's saying his sources told him that Pegula's "cronies" forced LaFontaine out and pointed to the non-disclosure as proof.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:53 PM ET
Murray seems like he would fire his cousin. But you have to admit because its "Nolan" there is that added layer of thought that will go into that one.
- Buffalo-Sabres



Perhaps, but in the end, Murray will do what he thinks is right. I just hope Terry and his cronies stay the hell out of his way and let him do his job.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:55 PM ET
i think he can and he will....when the time comes...but i also believe Terry, black, and their advisers will want Their say in the decision and any other major moves....that may be why Lafontain up and quit on them.
- aschwach

Sure, but in the end they all need to be on the same page.
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
He's saying his sources told him that Pegula's "cronies" forced LaFontaine out and pointed to the non-disclosure as proof.
- buffalofan19




ugh that's such a mess.... ............i wonder why....Bucky have any notions on that?......if that is the case then Murray or Any GM has at least one if not many puppet masters to dance for.....
MikeyOz
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Melbourne
Joined: 11.22.2006

Jul 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
Why o Why ? If he was half way decent another team would have picked him up, not an NHL player, he wouldn't do anything anywhere else. I guess it is an NHL career all the way, could be worse things in life.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 27 @ 10:29 PM ET
I don't blindly love Ted Nolan like other people do, but come on...... He doesn't do a thing?
- sbroads24


You wouldnt believe what I've heard. Doesnt watch game film, doesnt go to meetings and if he does he "throws around a few cliches and leaves". Again, Ive heard this from more than one source.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 27 @ 10:29 PM ET
I don't blindly love Ted Nolan like other people do, but come on...... He doesn't do a thing?
- sbroads24


You wouldnt believe what I've heard. Doesnt watch game film, doesnt go to meetings and if he does he "throws around a few cliches and leaves". Again, Ive heard this from more than one source.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 27 @ 10:31 PM ET
"Ah, ah, ah! Patty was fired."

-Bucky Gleason

- buffalofan19


I finally heard the Patty story...its nothing mind blowing actually. Just one thing led to another basically.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 27 @ 10:32 PM ET
You wouldnt believe what I've heard. Doesnt watch game film, doesnt go to meetings and if he does he "throws around a few cliches and leaves". Again, Ive heard this from more than one source.
- Homer

I believe what you say about meetings. Or gameplans.

But the way you made it sound was as if he walks around clueless.

I have heard a couple players credit him with turning their lives and career around
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 27 @ 10:33 PM ET
I believe what you say about meetings. Or gameplans.

But the way you made it sound was as if he walks around clueless.

I have heard a couple players credit him with turning their lives and career around

- sbroads24


Stafford is one of those players. Like I said, players like him, but its not because of his hockey accumen. Nice word, right?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 27 @ 10:36 PM ET
Stafford is one of those players. Like I said, players like him, but its not because of his hockey accumen. Nice word, right?
- Homer

At this point if he and the assistants can get them acting like professionals with a clear cut direction I think it's a good start. I don't need Mike Babcock or Ken Hitchcock right now. I think Nolan makes it through 2 years and is replaced
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 27 @ 10:36 PM ET
At this point if he and the assistants can get them acting like professionals with a clear cut direction I think it's a good start. I don't need Mike Babcock or Ken Hitchcock right now. I think Nolan makes it through 2 years and is replaced
- sbroads24


sounds about right
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 27 @ 10:38 PM ET
I finally heard the Patty story...its nothing mind blowing actually. Just one thing led to another basically.
- Homer



I am just Curious.....if it's one of this "me or them situations" or one of those "you can't fire me i quit situations" either way it sounds like Pegula has to many talking heads down there.
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 27 @ 10:39 PM ET
At this point if he and the assistants can get them acting like professionals with a clear cut direction I think it's a good start. I don't need Mike Babcock or Ken Hitchcock right now. I think Nolan makes it through 2 years and is replaced
- sbroads24



they have to hire some first...seems odd that its taking this long...camp is les then 8 weeks away


....Homer....does you source have any inclination as to who, or when?
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 27 @ 10:41 PM ET
I am just Curious.....if it's one of this "me or them situations" or one of those "you can't fire me i quit situations" either way it sounds like Pegula has to many talking heads down there.
- aschwach


All I can say is Patty took a stance on something that was important to him and Terry wouldnt budge.

Knowing the story, I can see both Patty's and Terry's side.
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