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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
I agree that for the last few years of darcys reign that the sabres started to go in a different direction. Not sure how much was darcy and how much was devine. I feel like we now have the advantage of another gm with no ties to those players to objectively evaluate and move forward.
- rover16

I think it will be interesting to see how many of "Darcy's guys" get moved. Starting next year we will have to trade prospects or players. There will be a ton of guys pushing for spots

McCabe
Ristolainen
Catenacci
Carrier
Grigorenko
Reinhart
2015 1st
Armia


All these guys will be pushing come 2015
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:32 AM ET
I think it will be interesting to see how many of "Darcy's guys" get moved. Starting next year we will have to trade prospects or players. There will be a ton of guys pushing for spots

McCabe
Ristolainen
Catenacci
Carrier
Grigorenko
Reinhart
2015 1st
Armia

All these guys will be pushing come 2015

- sbroads24


By 2015 1st, are you referring to McDavid/eichle?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:34 AM ET
By 2015 1st, are you referring to McDavid/eichle?
- joshs

Yup. Hell we could have 2 NHL ready prospects after that draft (Not likely IMO but possible)
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
Yup. Hell we could have 2 NHL ready prospects after that draft (Not likely IMO but possible)
- sbroads24


Man it would be such a bummer If we finished last and ended up with the 3rd pick after the lottery
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
Man it would be such a bummer If we finished last and ended up with the 3rd pick after the lottery
- joshs


If we are last . Worst we can do is second.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
If we are last . Worst we can do is second.
- Maximum Signal


O ok. I was worried that they changed that. Not sure if we could boast about our teams future without 1 of the 2.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
I think Murray has done a lot for the short time he has been a gm. This is the biggest offseason buffalo has had in 20 years.
- joshs


Spot on. I'm not sure how someone can say that GMTM has done nothing going yet. He has played the cards masterfully so far. Miller didn't want to stay, fine maximize the return. Oct has value at.trade deadline...fine trade the asset, no matter that he is your Captain. Plucks the projected best center .in the draft, then gets a.first round talent in the 2nd...nicely done. Signs character veterans to show the way to the youngins, perfect. Trades for a steady D-day to mentor the young D coming up...solid. uses his assets to trade for young, fearless, tough to play against prospects to create excellent competition in the A ... brilliant.
All in less than 6 months.
Yes it was Darcy' s plan ...did we have faith he could execute the plan...hell no.
GMTM ' s execution still needs to show results..but it looks good so far.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
Yup. Hell we could have 2 NHL ready prospects after that draft (Not likely IMO but possible)
- sbroads24


Yeah with 1 of the above we might have a real powerhouse of a team down the road. We could be battling with Colorado, Florida, Edmonton and Dallas.

I see all those teams potentially being very good in a few seasons, some being good now
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
Yeah with 1 of the above we might have a real powerhouse of a team down the road. We could be battling with Colorado, Florida, Edmonton and Dallas.

I see all those teams potentially being very good in a few seasons, some being good now

- joshs

Columbus and Tampa IMO are our biggest competition soon
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:04 PM ET
Glad he's gone. However Murray could still be worse. There are no results to judge.

Murray has the benefit of no expectations for his first year or 2

- sbroads24


I dont have a crystal ball. But i would bet theres no way Darcy gets the FA's Murray got to sign here this summer. He couldnt get guys to sign here when we still had members of the core left. However, i agree with everyone here that winning is what matters and we havent done much of that yet...
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:07 PM ET
Columbus and Tampa IMO are our biggest competition soon
- sbroads24


O yeah forgot about Tampa.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:13 PM ET
Columbus and Tampa IMO are our biggest competition soon
- sbroads24



But, but, but I thought Stamkos was going to Toronto!!!!!
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:18 PM ET
But, but, but I thought Stamkos was going to Toronto!!!!!
- buffalofan19


Toronto is a cool city and their fans love hockey but man living in paradise and being on a good team would be a hard thing to pass up.

**edit** I get the joke. Some Toronto fans sheesh!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
I dont have a crystal ball. But i would bet theres no way Darcy gets the FA's Murray got to sign here this summer. He couldnt get guys to sign here when we still had members of the core left. However, i agree with everyone here that winning is what matters and we havent done much of that yet...
- seedy

We got Leino and Ehrhoff, convinced Regehr to come.


Again, I like Murray, and wanted Darcy gone. But it's another example of historical revisionism that Buffalo fans have.

All because Murray was able to sign a few vets on the 30th place team, history changes from "Darcy gave FA's horrible contracts" to "Darcy couldn't get anyone to come here"
sabres2016
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jul 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
The one thing Darcy was good at was acquiring talent. He just never fully had the luxury of a couple years of no expectations to see it through.

Lets not kid ourselves, the prospect pool that many of us have been raving about before this draft....was the talent Darcy accumulated

- sbroads24

Thats very true but 5 of the prospects im most excited about, in no order, are carrier fasching deslaureier(as a 3rd/4th line beast) reinhart and lemiuex. All.murray guys, and this could just be because they're new and shiny
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
We got Leino and Ehrhoff, convinced Regehr to come.


Again, I like Murray, and wanted Darcy gone. But it's another example of historical revisionism that Buffalo fans have.

All because Murray was able to sign a few vets on the 30th place team, history changes from "Darcy gave FA's horrible contracts" to "Darcy couldn't get anyone to come here"

- sbroads24


At the time I loved that offseason. We only made 1 free agent signing but Darcy to convince Erhoff to come here, Leino and regher. I liked Darcy. I bet he would have made similar trades at deadline. Don't think he could have gotten the same free agents as Murray did.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:49 PM ET
At the time I loved that offseason. We only made 1 free agent signing but Darcy to convince Erhoff to come here, Leino and regher. I liked Darcy. I bet he would have made similar trades at deadline. Don't think he could have gotten the same free agents as Murray did.
- joshs

Agreed. Darcy needed to go for us to regain credibility.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
Since Sam Reinhart played in the whl is he able to play for the amerks this year or is their restrictions like the ohl?
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
Since Sam Reinhart played in the whl is he able to play for the amerks this year or is their restrictions like the ohl?
- Carubba-Kaleta


The rule applies to all CHL teams not just the OHL
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
Since Sam Reinhart played in the whl is he able to play for the amerks this year or is their restrictions like the ohl?
- Carubba-Kaleta


I don't think so. Its either the Sabres or back to the Jrs. I could be wrong .
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
The rule applies to all CHL teams not just the OHL
- Maximum Signal

Thx Max
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
The rule applies to all CHL teams not just the OHL
- Maximum Signal

Ah ok, damn that sucks I think he would really benefit the most from the ahl.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 26 @ 1:37 PM ET
Man it would be such a bummer If we finished last and ended up with the 3rd pick after the lottery
- joshs


Then you take Barzal no big deal
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
Since Sam Reinhart played in the whl is he able to play for the amerks this year or is their restrictions like the ohl?
- Carubba-Kaleta


No he needs 1 more year in the WHL
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
No he needs 1 more year in the WHL
- gerbe75pts

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