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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jul 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxszvrUeluE
- eichiefs9


Just magnets
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
He has the upside but he plays the game like, well a kid. He hasn't no concept of the defense part in defenseman. I think he has a tonne of potential but needs a steady stay at home or at minimum, someone with the speed to cover his shortcomings. He'd be great with a Giordano, Weber... steady, reliable. Hell even Smid was better for him... He's not a 4 mil d-man but sadly thats the new NHL...
- geta02it


You were doing alright....then I got here and it completely fell apart....Smid sucks taint.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
He has the upside but he plays the game like, well a kid. He hasn't no concept of the defense part in defenseman. I think he has a tonne of potential but needs a steady stay at home or at minimum, someone with the speed to cover his shortcomings. He'd be great with a Giordano, Weber... steady, reliable. Hell even Smid was better for him... He's not a 4 mil d-man but sadly thats the new NHL...
- geta02it


I wish someone would make a scale so the skill levels and what they get paid could be comparable cause I'm getting lost...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
I think MacT (frank)ed up by telling the world Jultz is part of the core... now the kid expects the 6 mil the rest of the core is getting.

Honestly I don't know what Jultz does that just about any winger couldn't do with a few months of practice. The guy doesn't play defense.

- BigDre



(frank) ya- totally agree... dont know what he was thinking
gtrman09
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 07.16.2009

Jul 21 @ 5:34 PM ET
Ana fans are laughing...
- saskoil21

Mostly at Justin for putting himself on such a bad team!
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
Mostly at Justin for putting himself on such a bad team!
- gtrman09

Holy poop... a Ducks fan!
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
I wish someone would make a scale so the skill levels and what they get paid could be comparable cause I'm getting lost...
- BigDre

here, here... I would say1.5-2.25 max. I use TJ Brodie with the Flames as a comparable. $525 this past year, 1.75 and 2.5 over the next two. Almost the same point total and uber-responsible in his own end (playing with Gio helps)
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
Holy poop... a Ducks fan!
- BigDre

with a shark avatar....
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
Holy poop... a Ducks fan!
- BigDre

with a Sharks logo for an avatar...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
I wish someone would make a scale so the skill levels and what they get paid could be comparable cause I'm getting lost...
- BigDre



Thats the problem I have been stating for a while now with the NHL- the high end talents are not getting completely what they should and the middle of the row and role players are capitalizing on very short supplies... No way should the UFAs pull in money that is even close to Tavares et al... Clarkson, Nikitin, etc are prime examples... Its terrible for the team and cap- while wanting to be competitive... which is why you need such a strong farm team-
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
with a shark avatar....
- Iggysbff

HA! great minds...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 21 @ 5:39 PM ET
Holy poop... a Ducks fan!
- BigDre

saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 5:40 PM ET

- Nucker101



geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 21 @ 5:40 PM ET

- Nucker101

your avatar excludes you from that...
gtrman09
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 07.16.2009

Jul 21 @ 5:40 PM ET
It's the Rimouski Oceanic logo. It's a team from the QMJHL. Not the Sharks.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 21 @ 5:41 PM ET
It's the Rimouski Oceanic logo. It's a team from the QMJHL. Not the Sharks.
- gtrman09

This may be over Iggys head
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:43 PM ET
here, here... I would say1.5-2.25 max. I use TJ Brodie with the Flames as a comparable. $525 this past year, 1.75 and 2.5 over the next two. Almost the same point total and uber-responsible in his own end (playing with Gio helps)
- geta02it


I think the situations are so completely different that Brodie is not a goodcomparison.
1. Jultz was courted by the entire league as a UFA, and did just get to 40 points with 11 goals on a sh!te team
2. Jultz is already making the rookie max (3.5 including bonuses or something) for his ELC. his base was something like 925k.
3. Brodie seems to play some defense according to your post. Jultz does not.

I think the new CBA just added greater disparity between how much the players make based on where they are in their contract eligible years... The really good RFAs with good agents might make some cash early (ROR), but owners will try to squeeze every other RFA (Subban) to get value for the player. ELCs are what they are, and everyone knows UFAs have "earned" their right to make stupid amounts of money for middling play (Benoit, Fayne). Basically the vets are taking it from the kids and that deal works for the owners.
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 21 @ 5:44 PM ET
But guarantee some dumbass GM will make an offer (like Feaster on ROR) and you guys will be left with the fallout.
- geta02it


I'm not convinced on Schultz. I probably take the compensation.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:44 PM ET

- Nucker101


what bet did you lose that requires your avatar to be what it is?
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
I'm not convinced on Schultz. I probably take the compensation.
- Matt_Henderson


Yeah I don't think Schultz will get the love ROR and Weber got as RFA
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 21 @ 5:48 PM ET
What if Schultz contract talks continue to stall and things shook out like this:

1) Schultz for a Centreman

2) Play Nikitin on the right side and sign MDZ or sign Morris/McBain to replace Schultz

So essentially, it'd be:

2nd line C + MDZ/Morris/McBain for Schultz

How would you guys feel about that

BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:49 PM ET
What if Schultz contract talks continue to stall and things shook out like this:

1) Schultz for a Centreman

2) Play Nikitin on the right side and sign MDZ or sign Morris/McBain to replace Schultz

So essentially, it'd be:

2nd line C + MDZ/Morris/McBain for Schultz

How would you guys feel about that

- ystoil


I don't know if that crazy green head would fit in a helmet... worth a shot though, seems to know stuff about hockey
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 21 @ 5:59 PM ET
what bet did you lose that requires your avatar to be what it is?
- BigDre



A bet with my heart.
jdd0001
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Red Wings fan since 86 only 4 years I didn't break something., NS
Joined: 10.15.2009

Jul 21 @ 6:03 PM ET
Trade him to Detroit for Tatar and jensen
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
3 year, 47 billion dollar deal.
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