dammit i legit was about to ask you 'for real?!'


then i realized it was 'for 2Real'
- Crimsoninja

of course we're friends why do you think i hate him

Has there been any banter on why they didn't re-sign Heeter?

Has there been any banter on why they didn't re-sign Heeter?
- wilsonecho91

why would there be? it's a non story

This playoff come-from-behind win with the Craven goal and the famous shot of Craven and Tocchet hugging each other on their knees. Great memory for me.

http://video.flyers.nhl.c...eocenter/console?id=88678

why would there be? it's a non story
- 2Real

Meh - I guess we are drowning in goalie prospects - Rob Zepp really pumps my nads

Meh - I guess we are drowning in goalie prospects - Rob Zepp really pumps my nads
- wilsonecho91

Just added 'really pumps my nads' to my colorful language repertoire.

why would there be? it's a non story
- 2Real

And for what it's worth you 2bit hack, he was the AHL starter and 1st goalie call up. That's a story.

- Pixote Andolini

This clip from top to bottom once again makes me shake my head over the Umburger/Hartnell deal. Yes, I get we ended up with seven 20 goal scorers by season's end but this was November. If we can't balance the defense, we better be able to score. I just don't think dividing from the offense or taking grit away helps. I understand the mind set of speed but does Umburger help that much? Are we now a better team? I'm not so sure.

I'm also concerned for our "Team toughness" and grit. We lost Hartnell, Downie, Hall and I'm a believer of these three being gritty and pretty tough guys.

And for what it's worth you 2bit hack, he was the AHL starter and 1st goalie call up. That's a story.
- wilsonecho91

mason emery stolarz the dude from germany meh who cares

Not unless we free up a lot of cap space. I dont believe we will get him.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I think the most likely of curve balls that fans won't see coming is Ron Hextall for whatever reason that only makes sense to Ron Hextall is that he won't want Bobby Ryan. Maybe Ryan will want a penny more then what Hextall is willing to give or he'll want someone else who's a second faster but not as offensive gifted. Or the Hextall just simply won't be interested for the sake of being uninterested.

I see quite the satisfying Meltzerbomb was dropped today.

This playoff come-from-behind win with the Craven goal and the famous shot of Craven and Tocchet hugging each other on their knees. Great memory for me.

http://video.flyers.nhl.c...eocenter/console?id=88678
- Pixote Andolini

Great memory for me too. Tocchet played his butt off that game.

It's amazing how far " fan paraphernalia " has come. Hardly anyone in the Spectrum was wearing fan gear back then. I had a Tim Kerr jersey back in those days. Nobody knew who he was here in Toronto !

Has there been any banter on why they didn't re-sign Heeter?
- wilsonecho91

Guessing Hextall didn't think he was a very good long term prospect, and figured the organization would be better served by having a veteran splitting time with Stolarz.

This clip from top to bottom once again makes me shake my head over the Umburger/Hartnell deal. Yes, I get we ended up with seven 20 goal scorers by season's end but this was November. If we can't balance the defense, we better be able to score. I just don't think dividing from the offense or taking grit away helps. I understand the mind set of speed but does Umburger help that much? Are we now a better team? I'm not so sure.

I'm also concerned for our "Team toughness" and grit. We lost Hartnell, Downie, Hall and I'm a believer of these three being gritty and pretty tough guys.
- SuperSchennBros

I wouldnt take much from that game against EDM. That was maybe the worst showing a team put up against us all year.

There is enough grit on this team with Rinaldo alone holding down a spot. Plenty of teams in this league succeed with less. ie Kings, Hawks

Guessing Hextall didn't think he was a very good long term prospect, and figured the organization would be better served by having a veteran splitting time with Stolarz.
- Jsaquella

As I don't think we will ever see Heeter in the NHL, I'm not sure why anyone would care that they didn't re-sign him.

This clip from top to bottom once again makes me shake my head over the Umburger/Hartnell deal. Yes, I get we ended up with seven 20 goal scorers by season's end but this was November. If we can't balance the defense, we better be able to score. I just don't think dividing from the offense or taking grit away helps. I understand the mind set of speed but does Umburger help that much? Are we now a better team? I'm not so sure.

I'm also concerned for our "Team toughness" and grit. We lost Hartnell, Downie, Hall and I'm a believer of these three being gritty and pretty tough guys.
- SuperSchennBros

Its all about the penalties and Hartnell not wanting to get on board and play a more disciplined game. At least that is the way I see it.

This clip from top to bottom once again makes me shake my head over the Umburger/Hartnell deal. Yes, I get we ended up with seven 20 goal scorers by season's end but this was November. If we can't balance the defense, we better be able to score. I just don't think dividing from the offense or taking grit away helps. I understand the mind set of speed but does Umburger help that much? Are we now a better team? I'm not so sure.

I'm also concerned for our "Team toughness" and grit. We lost Hartnell, Downie, Hall and I'm a believer of these three being gritty and pretty tough guys.
- SuperSchennBros

Maybe because Hextall is more concerned with the discipline aspect of things than the grit aspect.

I'm not against gritty players, and in fact I think the Flyers could use a bit more sandpaper, but at the same time disciplined players that can play well within a system will help the defense, because it means that the whole team, from front to back will be involved in helping out from end to end.

With the Flyers defense being such a trouble spot, it's vital that the forwards play good, smart two way hockey. Perhaps Hartnell was identified as a guy who was lacking in that regard?

Maybe because Hextall is more concerned with the discipline aspect of things than the grit aspect.

I'm not against gritty players, and in fact I think the Flyers could use a bit more sandpaper, but at the same time disciplined players that can play well within a system will help the defense, because it means that the whole team, from front to back will be involved in helping out from end to end.

With the Flyers defense being such a trouble spot, it's vital that the forwards play good, smart two way hockey. Perhaps Hartnell was identified as a guy who was lacking in that regard?
- Jsaquella

New blob

As I don't think we will ever see Heeter in the NHL, I'm not sure why anyone would care that they didn't re-sign him.
- BiggE

The lone reason I'd care is that there's almost no goalie depth. After Stolarz, the only prospect goalie they own rights to is Merrick Madsen.

Maybe because Hextall is more concerned with the discipline aspect of things than the grit aspect.

I'm not against gritty players, and in fact I think the Flyers could use a bit more sandpaper, but at the same time disciplined players that can play well within a system will help the defense, because it means that the whole team, from front to back will be involved in helping out from end to end.

With the Flyers defense being such a trouble spot, it's vital that the forwards play good, smart two way hockey. Perhaps Hartnell was identified as a guy who was lacking in that regard?
- Jsaquella

No 'perhaps' about it. With all the quotes immediately following the trade, discipline and the length of his deal were the two contributing factors to his being dealt.

I wouldnt take much from that game against EDM. That was maybe the worst showing a team put up against us all year.

There is enough grit on this team with Rinaldo alone holding down a spot. Plenty of teams in this league succeed with less. ie Kings, Hawks
- hereticpride

The Kings and Hawks are loaded with grit. LA especially is a very difficult team to play against.

No 'perhaps' about it. With all the quotes immediately following the trade, discipline and the length of his deal were the two contributing factors to his being dealt.
- tangent_man

I think conditioning played a role, along with skating ability. As Bill mentioned a whole 11 days ago

Although no one would ever say so on the record, the Flyers' decision to trade Scott Hartnell probably had something to do with the organization feeling that he was one of the players who was a little too set in his ways (both in terms of conditioning and in terms of the way he played on the ice not necessarily being conducive to the system Berube installed). He seemed unlikely to change and, thus, became someone the team opted to move out.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...Larsson-and-More/45/61236

I think conditioning played a role, along with skating ability. As Bill mentioned a whole 11 days ago

Although no one would ever say so on the record, the Flyers' decision to trade Scott Hartnell probably had something to do with the organization feeling that he was one of the players who was a little too set in his ways (both in terms of conditioning and in terms of the way he played on the ice not necessarily being conducive to the system Berube installed). He seemed unlikely to change and, thus, became someone the team opted to move out.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...Larsson-and-More/45/61236
- Jsaquella

Yeah, the discipline umbrella covers quite a few areas.

Yeah, the discipline umbrella covers quite a few areas.
- tangent_man