Lol
- Iggysbff

Great response. So a top pairing defenceman, a projected 2nd line centre, and a potential high 1st and 2nd round pick isn't enough for a guy who they may lose via UFA in 2 years?

The $$ opportunities in TO by far outweigh any money he saves from taxes. We talked about this a couple days ago. The differential between FL on ON aren't much different. Like 250,000 for every 5mil or something.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Booth's definitely a pure sniper...



- Nucker101

At least he uses a bow and not a boom stick

He needs to use his size more, I agree. But you guys got burned hard on that trade. JVR's game as gotten "harder" since leaving Philly.
- LeafsOneBillion

schenn will win norris in 2017 and it'll be a wash

Great response. So a top pairing defenceman, a projected 2nd line centre, and a potential high 1st and 2nd round pick isn't enough for a guy who they may lose via UFA in 2 years?
- Kinger34

they will absolutely not lose him. not going to happen. no rumor of him returning home is taking place.

He'll have major sponsors wanting his sig once he's in the center of the hockey universe.

More exposure = more money
- LeafsOneBillion

Hard for Toronto to compete with Tax advantages and weather in Florida.

Great response. So a top pairing defenceman, a projected 2nd line centre, and a potential high 1st and 2nd round pick isn't enough for a guy who they may lose via UFA in 2 years?
- Kinger34

It's lol cause that's too much.

they will absolutely not lose him. not going to happen. no rumor of him returning home is taking place.
- digitalbath

And you know this how?

Hard for Toronto to compete with Tax advantages and weather in Florida.
- Maximum Signal

not to mention all the hot chicks walking around in teeny tiny bikinis

Great response. So a top pairing defenceman, a projected 2nd line centre, and a potential high 1st and 2nd round pick isn't enough for a guy who they may lose via UFA in 2 years?
- Kinger34

Simply put, no.
If it was Keith or Subban, maybe. But Phaneuf? No.

It's lol cause that's too much.
- LeafsOneBillion

I am hoping to get a T-Bay fan's perspective on this too.

I agree the return to Tampa is high, but you have to give to get.

Phaneuf has been made available for a while now, but without any serious interest from any team!
Seems like your knowledge of hockey is inflated towards Dion's value. Elite or All Star or not, his contract $$ and term is an anchor, no team would pay for
- intelligentscorpio

Money/Term is not reduce his talent. Phaneuf has RUMOURED to be available. No GM in their right mind will get rid of Phaneuf unless they got a significant package back. A lot of teams don't want to pay the price that a Dman of his calibre commands. You have to create more holes to fill one. If the Leafs are serious about trading him they will but I don't believe they are.

Simply put, no.
If it was Keith or Subban, maybe. But Phaneuf? No.
- fidopro

They wouldn't take Subban because of his pending free agent status.

The difference between Keith and Phaneuf = Stamkos? Doubt it, and Chicago doesn't have the money to pay Stammer.

To the contrary, I think a top D pairing of Hedman and Phaneuf would be pretty solid for the Lightning.

Hard for Toronto to compete with Tax advantages and weather in Florida.
- Maximum Signal

Lol have you been to Toronto? Stamkos will become a god if he comes home and he knows it. He's spent years in the sun. Now it's time for him to come to the center of the hockey universe.

Phaneuf has been made available for a while now, but without any serious interest from any team!
Seems like your knowledge of hockey is inflated towards Dion's value. Elite or All Star or not, his contract $$ and term is an anchor, no team would pay for
- intelligentscorpio

Source?

He needs to use his size more, I agree. But you guys got burned hard on that trade. JVR's game as gotten "harder" since leaving Philly.
- LeafsOneBillion

Im sure you would know that JVR was hard

The $$ opportunities in TO by far outweigh any money he saves from taxes. We talked about this a couple days ago. The differential between FL on ON aren't much different. Like 250,000 for every 5mil or something.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

So if he makes 10 million a season , it costs him a 1/2 million a season. that is nothing ? Is that new math ? Endorsements for Canada are probably about the same as he would get just for Florida . Don't see it happening . Nothing against Ontario . Just think about it.
Has he stated anywhere his desire to come back to Canada ?

And you know this how?
- Kinger34

This whole site is speculation and opinions my man. IMO.... again, IMO, stamkos isnt the type to make waves, hes going to do the same thing kane and toews did, sign long term for "SLIGHT pay cut"

Lol have you been to Toronto? Stamkos will become a god if he comes home and he knows it. He's spent years in the sun. Now it's time for him to come to the center of the hockey universe.
- LeafsOneBillion

The sun?

This whole site is speculation and opinions my man. IMO.... again, IMO, stamkos isnt the type to make waves, hes going to do the same thing kane and toews did, sign long term for "SLIGHT pay cut" and sign long term
- digitalbath

I agree with your assessment. But you are asserting your opinion as fact.

I am hoping to get a T-Bay fan's perspective on this too.

I agree the return to Tampa is high, but you have to give to get.
- Kinger34

Ya but Toronto and Tampa Bay both know that Stamkos would likely leave via free agency.

Thus the price comes down cause Toronto can play the "we will be nice and give you return for an earlier year of Stamkos ala the Jordan Stall trade.

Lol have you been to Toronto? Stamkos will become a god if he comes home and he knows it. He's spent years in the sun. Now it's time for him to come to the center of the hockey universe.
- LeafsOneBillion

I lived in Toronto for 3 years , so yes I know Toronto . If he is a hockey god at that point he will get the same value in endorsements south of the border.

How so , He yearns to come home to the Leafs ? Source ? No state taxes in Florida.
- Maximum Signal

No STATE taxes in Ontario either...

If you add Kessel on their and Rielly or JVR and we got a deal
- TampaTalk

overate much?

Great response. So a top pairing defenceman, a projected 2nd line centre, and a potential high 1st and 2nd round pick isn't enough for a guy who they may lose via UFA in 2 years?
- Kinger34

That's right. You're talking about one of the top players in the league. Dion is not a major piece. If he was, he would have been moved by now. Someone would certainly offer more than that package.