Dion for both Schenn's?
- Canuckleafer

my love for dion has died after watching him slip into "i've got a big contract and don't give a damn about playing hard anymore" mode

That's the entire point of these forums, no?

EDIT: There's also quality of living surveys. They never have Toronto as #1.
- woopstash

Well yes but you trying to tell him he's wrong about his opinion, good luck with that.

I don't think anyone said it's the best place to live either

That's the entire point of these forums, no?

EDIT: There's also quality of living surveys. They never have Toronto as #1.
- woopstash

The EIU's Livability Ranking and Overview August 2013
City Country Overall rating[2]
1 Melbourne Australia 97.5
2 Vienna Austria 97.4
3 Vancouver Canada 97.3
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Adelaide Australia 96.6
6 Calgary Canada 96.6
7 Sydney Australia 96.1
8 Helsinki Finland 96.0
9 Perth Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7

# 4 ain't so bad.

The EIU's Livability Ranking and Overview August 2013
City Country Overall rating
- Canuckleafer[2]
1 Melbourne Australia 97.5
2 Vienna Austria 97.4
3 Vancouver Canada 97.3
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Adelaide Australia 96.6
6 Calgary Canada 96.6
7 Sydney Australia 96.1
8 Helsinki Finland 96.0
9 Perth Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7

# 4 ain't so bad.

poop just got real

The EIU's Livability Ranking and Overview August 2013
City Country Overall rating
- Canuckleafer[2]
1 Melbourne Australia 97.5
2 Vienna Austria 97.4
3 Vancouver Canada 97.3
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Adelaide Australia 96.6
6 Calgary Canada 96.6
7 Sydney Australia 96.1
8 Helsinki Finland 96.0
9 Perth Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7

# 4 ain't so bad.

I THOUGHT THAT WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT CHICAGO IS BIGG....



Oh wait, wrong discussion. My bad...

Let's get a well-thought out, non-biased Dion Phaneuf discussion going. I'd also like to revisit the Luongo situation with the Canucks. What was his true trade value?
- Nucker101

Let's get a well-thought out, non-biased Dion Phaneuf discussion going. I'd also like to revisit the Luongo situation with the Canucks. What was his true trade value?
- Nucker101

Yes it was his trade value, possibly an overpayment.

I agree that Barcelona is pretty awesome. I love downtown Vancouver, but the cost of living there is so unbelievably prohibitive. Montreal and Quebec are both fun cities, but I couldn't live in Montreal permanently (people there are CRAZY!). Calgary I'm not a fan of at all, but more the people rather than the city per se. Personally, I jut really like Toronto. Lots to do, great transportation hub, and having the wife's family there really helps.
- lumlums

Having family in a place can really help. Canada in general is expensive. Plus you get what you pay for in a lot of cases. Vancouver was incredible. Always something to do and there's oceans, lakes, mountains and beaches and the climate is great. Downtown Calgary is kinda weird in that it's a ghost town. Just gotta find all the hipster areas further south. I just find Toronto to be blah. That's it, I'm moving to Europe.

No kidding. Everyone is right and I am wrong...Steven Stamkos on the 0.0000001% chance he signs in Toronto as a UFA will have all of his current endorsements pulled and will forever play second string to Joffrey Lupul's GotStyle campaign and live in the shadow of Phaneuf's Red Bull contract by signing with that second rate Monster Energy. His deal with the local Chevrolet dealership will forever overshadow anything available in Toronto, the GTA or Golden Horseshoe.
- Deeps27

not sure a guy like Stamkos is interested in schilling for local or regional Toronto companies. guy reps Nike and Tissot already. not really worth his time to appear in a commercial for Bad Boy Furniture. guy like that makes his money with national sponsorships.

The EIU's Livability Ranking and Overview August 2013
City Country Overall rating
- Canuckleafer[2]
1 Melbourne Australia 97.5
2 Vienna Austria 97.4
3 Vancouver Canada 97.3
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Adelaide Australia 96.6
6 Calgary Canada 96.6
7 Sydney Australia 96.1
8 Helsinki Finland 96.0
9 Perth Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7

# 4 ain't so bad.

That's from Economist Intelligence Unit's point of view. What about Quality of Life:

Mercer's Quality of Living 2014
City Country
1 Vienna Austria
2 Zürich Switzerland
3 Auckland New Zealand
4 Munich Germany
5 Vancouver Canada
6 Düsseldorf Germany
7 Frankfurt Germany
8 Geneva Switzerland
9 Copenhagen Denmark
10 Bern Switzerland


And Most Liveable Cities:

Monocle's Quality of Life Survey 2014
City Country
1 Melbourne Australia
2 Tokyo Japan
3 Copenhagen Denmark
4 Stockholm Sweden
5 Helsinki Finland
6 Vienna Austria
7 Zürich Switzerland
8 Munich Germany
9 Kyoto Japan
10 Fukuoka Japan

(BOTH FROM 2014).

Yes it was his trade value, possibly an overpayment.
- Yeti1181

Nope, he was worth more. Gillis had his hand forced by the NTC but his trade value was higher.


What's Dion's trade value?

Nope, he was worth more. Gillis had his hand forced by the NTC but his trade value was higher.


What's Dion's trade value?
- Nucker101

today or when Sutter traded him...

Having family in a place can really help. Canada in general is expensive. Plus you get what you pay for in a lot of cases. Vancouver was incredible. Always something to do and there's oceans, lakes, mountains and beaches and the climate is great. Downtown Calgary is kinda weird in that it's a ghost town. Just gotta find all the hipster areas further south. I just find Toronto to be blah. That's it, I'm moving to Europe.
- woopstash

Lived in the southeast of Calgary and loved it.

And because the truth shall always set us free:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...erations_in_North_America
4) Greater CHI: 8,814,000
5) Greater TOR: 6,312,000

And for giggles...

24) Tampa: 2,252,000

Nope, he was worth more. Gillis had his hand forced by the NTC but his trade value was higher.


What's Dion's trade value?
- Nucker101

Crosby and Malkin 75% salary retained

Lived in the southeast of Calgary and loved it.
- Yeti1181

In the burbs or near downtown?

Having family in a place can really help. Canada in general is expensive. Plus you get what you pay for in a lot of cases. Vancouver was incredible. Always something to do and there's oceans, lakes, mountains and beaches and the climate is great. Downtown Calgary is kinda weird in that it's a ghost town. Just gotta find all the hipster areas further south. I just find Toronto to be blah. That's it, I'm moving to Europe.
- woopstash

I'm in Edmonton (*waits for laughter to subside*) and I find it to be a very liveable city... low cost of living, lots of employment, and while the winter sucks the summer is beautiful. LOTS of greenspace, and great leagues for sports etc. out of work. My wife has an awesome job, and we got a good house in the recession for around 250k.. I see why players wouldn't want to live here from October through April however!

Vancouver is very beautiful, but East Hastings... jeez... I've never seen such a derelict place in this country!

not sure a guy like Stamkos is interested in schilling for local or regional Toronto companies. guy reps Nike and Tissot already. not really worth his time to appear in a commercial for Bad Boy Furniture. guy like that makes his money with national sponsorships.
- DoubleDown

Sorry - meant to type that in Comic Sarcasm font...if only Toronto was the home to corporate head offices.

not sure a guy like Stamkos is interested in schilling for local or regional Toronto companies. guy reps Nike and Tissot already. not really worth his time to appear in a commercial for Bad Boy Furniture. guy like that makes his money with national sponsorships.
- DoubleDown

I have this crazy idea:

Maybe he would just like to play for the leafs.

today or when Sutter traded him...
- geta02it

Both.

In the burbs or near downtown?
- woopstash

Mackenzie town. The burbs

Okay, guys, for real...




WHO CARES?

Crosby and Malkin 75% salary retained
- Yeti1181

What is the greater Pittsburgh area's population?

I have this crazy idea:

Maybe he would just like to play for the leafs.
- Yeti1181

Ladies and gentlemen, we have our winner for today. Remember when it was a simpler time and just about the hockey? Good times.

What is the greater Pittsburgh area's population?
- Nucker101

63K give or take