Hi Yeti !
- golfingsince

Sssshhhh they ll find me.

Magnets
- glove_was_stuck

Magnets are (frank)ing awesome

In 2012 Stamkos was 5th in the league in endorsement money. Nobody from the Leafs in top 15. I know it was two years ago but it's the first list I could find and doubt it's changed vastly in that time. And it was under 1 million and still top five. Hockey endorsements apparently don't pay much.
- jbs32

Now, now. There's absolutely no reason to come in here and tell people dream-shattering truths. This is a much happier place when everyone is allowed to live their own fantasy.

I've long forgotten the original argument - and for the record there is a 0.001% chance Stamkos leaves TB at his next contract - but I believe it centred around SS being able to attract a greater $ in endorsements due to the media exposure in Toronto. He'd catapult no doubt to the top if he ever did sign here, but realistically that's not happeneing. Let's not forget the GTA is the 4th largest market in North America behind Mexico City, LA and NYC...people around here may not like that fact, but a fact it is.
- Deeps27

bigger than Chicago?

(we'll get back to hockey) But does a Stamkos thrive in a hockey market, especially TO where there is no time away from the rink? endorsements fade if the product on the ice isn't at super star levels...
- geta02it

I think if someone want to/knowingly went to a market expecting it I don't know hoe much affect it would have on them.

bigger than Chicago?
- Pea-Brain

No. Passed Houston last year, but still lesser than Chi town.

bigger than Chicago?
- Pea-Brain

As of a year or two ago, yes

bigger than Chicago?
- Pea-Brain

Deep dish baby woohoo

Now, now. There's absolutely no reason to come in here and tell people dream-shattering truths. This is a much happier place when everyone is allowed to live their own fantasy.
- golfingsince

i think stamkos will lose about 3.5m salary on a 13m/5yr contract with the leafs

bigger than Chicago?
- Pea-Brain

Not even close.

Toronto proper has a larger population than Chicago, but the greater Chicago area still has quite a few more people.

(we'll get back to hockey) But does a Stamkos thrive in a hockey market, especially TO where there is no time away from the rink? endorsements fade if the product on the ice isn't at super star levels...
- geta02it

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to see it, does it make a sound?



Hmmmm....



How can we know this in the absence of quantitative data? Qualitatively? I don't see why not...but I will need to see some proof to be sure.

Let's do that. 7 x $12M UFA contract and I'll get back to you after the 4th year (so there is ample data to draw on).

bigger than Chicago?
- Pea-Brain

Please see above.

i think stamkos will lose about 3.5m salary on a 13m/5yr contract with the leafs
- Flyfreaky

I thought someone showed they don't actually lose as much as we think because of the federal taxes in the states.

Please see above.
- golfingsince

bigger than Chicago?
- Pea-Brain

bigger than Chicago?
- Pea-Brain

Yessir...that was all the rage in the news around here last year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ican_cities_by_population

I thought someone showed they don't actually lose as much as we think because of the federal taxes in the states.
- Yeti1181

no, this is accounting for all taxes

Not even close.

Toronto proper has a larger population than Chicago, but the greater Chicago area still has quite a few more people.
- Canuckleafer

I think Chicago proper still edges TO, even with the declining population over the past several years.

What a crazy thread. Stamkos to the leafs, Newfs are Grunts(WOW), I think we should be happy with any Canadian team winning and bring that cup back to the home land. I hate to say it even if it's a Habs win.

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to see it, does it make a sound?



Hmmmm....



How can we know this in the absence of quantitative data? Qualitatively? I don't see why not...but I will need to see some proof to be sure.

Let's do that. 7 x $12M UFA contract and I'll get back to you after the 4th year (so there is ample data to draw on).
- Deeps27

Clearly you were the top of your class.

Yessir...that was all the rage in the news around here last year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ican_cities_by_population
- Deeps27

Greater Chicago is like 9.5, whereas the GTA is 5.5

I think Chicago proper still edges TO, even with the declining population over the past several years.
- golfingsince

well, if you consider buffalo a suburb of toronto, i think it easily passes chicago

I think Chicago proper still edges TO, even with the declining population over the past several years.
- golfingsince

Not even close.

Toronto proper has a larger population than Chicago, but the greater Chicago area still has quite a few more people.
- Canuckleafer

From http://www.cityofchicago..../city/en/about/facts.html

Chicago is home to...

237 square miles of land
An estimated 2,695,598 residents
Dozens of cultural institutions, historical sites and museums
More than 200 theaters
Nearly 200 art galleries
More than 7,300 restaurants
77 community areas containing more than 100 neighborhoods
26 miles of lakefront
15 miles of bathing beaches
36 annual parades
19 miles of lakefront bicycle paths
552 parks
United States President Barack Obama


From http://www1.toronto.ca/wp...0VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD

Toronto is Canada's largest city, the fourth largest in North America, and home to a diverse population of about 2.8 million people. It's a global centre for business, finance, arts and culture and is consistently ranked one of the world's most livable cities.

Yessir...that was all the rage in the news around here last year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ican_cities_by_population
- Deeps27

so not the GTA vs Chicago metropolitan area, just the city

I think Chicago proper still edges TO, even with the declining population over the past several years.
- golfingsince

It's close, but TO overtook Chicago last year. But as said, the greater Chicago area is higher than the GTA.