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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:14 AM ET
Not an expert on it either, but I thought 20 was the age you're allowed, but perhaps the rule is "20 by time the season starts", but I thought it might be 20 that calendar year. *shrug*

One day I may read up on it so I know better.

- stashu



20yrs old or 4 full seasons of play.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:14 AM ET
Not sure anything was blame, just questioning how a skating coach is really supposed to help someone "turn the corner" on their development.

I don't get it either... (the reason for doubting another coaching tool to make someone better)

- stashu


A lot of players get drafted past the top 10 because their skating is questioned. I mean, sometimes a guy simply can't get any better, but some guys, maybe with awkward strides or poor acceleration, these are techniques that can be worked on. Like I said before, Corey Perry had these questions in 2003. It also took him 4 years with Anaheim to become a great player.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:15 AM ET
If I had to choose one player that really stuck out to me it was Carrier. Had 2 or 3 really good chances including one that went off the post and showed great speed.

On the other hand, Lemiux didn't do much for me. He had some scuffles and tried to get under the skin of players but as far as offense goes he wasn't doing too much.

I think our defensemen were really good last night with Risto and Zadorov looking much bigger and much better than everyone else on the ice, possibly to the point where it was killing our top lines offense. I'd like to see both go down to the Roch and juniors respectively but everything I saw I liked.

Also, 8,000 people at a scrimmage for the last place team in the middle of July, that's not too shabby

- Zschalberg


Nearly 9k!! Think I saw the stream said like 8700+

Another reason I wish I still lived up there, I'd have definitely added to that total...
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:15 AM ET
Once you play 4 yrs of juniors you become eligible.

They mentioned that Rynheart only has one year of WHL eligibility left.

- dadeadhead



Fixed.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:16 AM ET
20yrs old or 4 full seasons of play.
- dadeadhead


Gotcha, but when does 20 count? at the start of their season or that season's 12/31 date?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:16 AM ET
Fixed.
- HonkFortheGoose



yeah just woke up.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:17 AM ET
Gotcha, but when does 20 count? at the start of their season or that season's 12/31 date?
- stashu


He's already got 4 seasons, so for him it doesn't matter.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:17 AM ET
Fixed.
- HonkFortheGoose


That made me so happy when Florida took the 1st pick and he announced (and dragged out) "From the Ontario Hockey League..."

I was all happy then sitting at the arena knowing Reinhart was available.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:17 AM ET
He's already got 4 seasons, so for him it doesn't matter.
- HonkFortheGoose


I know for him, just mean for future reference
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:17 AM ET
I don't think that Zadorov will have an offensive upside as Seabrook does.

Zadorov is going to be a best 2nd line pairing type guy in the NHL. Just punishes everyone that comes near him.

If only he had a killer slapper from the point.

- JVince11



This is probably true, but I was actually think more in terms of "defensive zone play".


If Zadorov can grow into the role of defensive zone general & enforcer... He's got the makings of a top pairing crease-clearer.

But even if he's just a bigger version of Robyn Regher, that's a great fit with either Myers or Risto.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:18 AM ET
I know for him, just mean for future reference
- stashu


I would have to say they have to be 20 prior to the season.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:19 AM ET
Nearly 9k!! Think I saw the stream said like 8700+

Another reason I wish I still lived up there, I'd have definitely added to that total...

- stashu


Opened up the 300s level eventually. Showed the kids we actual care
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:20 AM ET
Gotcha, but when does 20 count? at the start of their season or that season's 12/31 date?
- stashu



He was drafted in 2013 but that was already his 3rd full season of play. He played last year thus meeting the required 4 yrs of play.

20 yrs old counts based on the last date a player is eligible for the draft. (IE: late birthday like Sam Bennett).
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:21 AM ET
I would have to say they have to be 20 prior to the season.
- HonkFortheGoose



TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:21 AM ET
This is probably true, but I was actually think more in terms of "defensive zone play".

If Zadorov can grow into the role of defensive zone general & enforcer... He's got the makings of a top pairing creas-clearer.

But even if he's just a bigger version of Robyn Regher, that's could be a great fit with Myers or Risto.

- SuperCat


It's tough to come up with a comparable for Zadorov. Maybe Byfuglien with better speed and less offense? Scott Stevens kinda guy?

If Zadorov is Scott Stevens at 27 years old, I'll be...I'll be one happy bronut.
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:24 AM ET


Sorry, I just love typos that get mangled like that.

Was that voice-command?

- stashu


Nah it was supposed to be "fleetest of foot"... But Apple apparently thought otherwise
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:25 AM ET
It's tough to come up with a comparable for Zadorov. Maybe Byfuglien with better speed and less offense? Scott Stevens kinda guy?

If Zadorov is Scott Stevens at 27 years old, I'll be...I'll be one happy bronut.

- TheSabresTaco



Stevens didn't have that great of year at 27 and only had 3 more years as an offensive powerhouse. From 30 on up he was just a defensive guru.



Side note......

Steven was never a minus player.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:27 AM ET
Still no assistant coaches.. I'm hoping for Oates to fill one of those spots seemed like he got a raw deal in Washington
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:28 AM ET
It's tough to come up with a comparable for Zadorov. Maybe Byfuglien with better speed and less offense? Scott Stevens kinda guy?

If Zadorov is Scott Stevens at 27 years old, I'll be...I'll be one happy bronut.

- TheSabresTaco



I feel like he has more offensive upside....but def looks like one hell of a hitter....though he did take himself out of position once or twice by going for the big hit...but had enough speed to recover....he needs a lil more time....wish he could go to Roch
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:28 AM ET
Still no assistant coaches.. I'm hoping for Oates to fill one of those spots seemed like he got a raw deal in Washington
- Pegullaville



Could be a good mentor for Rynheart.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:31 AM ET
Stevens didn't have that great of year at 27 and only had 3 more years as an offensive powerhouse. From 30 on up he was just a defensive guru.



Side note......

Steven was never a minus player.

- dadeadhead


I'll rephrase.

If Zadorov can duplicate Stevens' best seasons for a solid 8 years.. I'll be a glad Gladys.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:31 AM ET
I feel like he has more offensive upside....but def looks like one hell of a hitter....though he did take himself out of position once or twice by going for the big hit...but had enough speed to recover....he needs a lil more time....wish he could go to Roch
- aschwach



Than Stevens had?


from age 19-30 Stevens averaged 12.5g and 56pts.


Not sure Zadorov can match those totals.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:32 AM ET
Could be a good mentor for Rynheart.
- dadeadhead


YOU MEAN WHINEHEART MIRITE?!
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:32 AM ET
Still no assistant coaches.. I'm hoping for Oates to fill one of those spots seemed like he got a raw deal in Washington
- Pegullaville


I'd like to see Cunneyworth....he's a good tactician...and guys would run through walls for him.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:33 AM ET
I feel like he has more offensive upside....but def looks like one hell of a hitter....though he did take himself out of position once or twice by going for the big hit...but had enough speed to recover....he needs a lil more time....wish he could go to Roch
- aschwach


I think it's hard to compare him to anyone because his pre-draft season in Jr was so different from this last year in Jr. I'm with you though. I feel like going to Rochester would be better for his development, but either he's in London this year or here in Buffalo.
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