Overrated: Drury. I'm not going to take away what he did those two years but fans wanted to write a blank check for a career 3rd like player that never made his wingers better.

Underrated: Miro satan. Had little to work with but still scored consistently AND came up big several times in playoffs.
- Khymlev13

While I cant stand him now I don't think it fair to call Drury overrated... While he didn't have the point production that Briere had you cant teach being clutch. He was incredibly, incredibly clutch for us those two playoff years. His time here was not overrated IMO and he was much better than a 3rd line player... trying to compare him to Steve Ott?? Drury has way more offensive upside.

http://www.niagarafallsre...ies/2014/JULY08/mega.html

WHoever wrote this is a (frank)ing moron

While I cant stand him now I don't think it fair to call Drury overrated... While he didn't have the point production that Briere had you cant teach being clutch. He was incredibly, incredibly clutch for us those two playoff years. His time here was not overrated IMO and he was much better than a 3rd line player... trying to compare him to Steve Ott?? Drury has way more offensive upside.
- bluengold12

He gets over rated by Buffalo fans. As a player he was a 2nd line center that scored some big goals. However how many thousands of times have you heard how we need to "find the next Drury" as if he was a one in a million player

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WHoever wrote this is a (frank)ing moron
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I was looking for an email for that idiot who wrote that so I could enlighten him.

It's like when the PMRC first started. They skew the facts just enough - if they've gotten them right in the first place - to fit their agenda.

He gets over rated by Buffalo fans. As a player he was a 2nd line center that scored some big goals. However how many thousands of times have you heard how we need to "find the next Drury" as if he was a one in a million player
- sbroads24

He is overrated by many because, besides Briere, few have seen a top line center in a Sabres uniform and Briere wasn't a top end #1 center. Drury is all they have to compare and strive for. Like the Bills' inability to get a #1 QB,one of Darcy's huge mistakes was his inability to get at least one true #1 center in his 17 years as GM.

I understand that Miller is a polarizing figure in here, but how can a guy who was drafted in the 5th round be overrated when he won a Vezina and silver medal in the Olympics? If he was a 1st rounder maybe he would be more of a let down, but c'mon man. I don't even like him and I can say calling him overrated is a reach.

I was looking for an email for that idiot who wrote that so I could enlighten him.

It's like when the PMRC first started. They skew the facts just enough - if they've gotten them right in the first place - to fit their agenda.
- grand-magus

[email][email protected][/email] is the site's e-mail, and the publisher is Frank Parlato if that helps. My god what a (frank)tard

I understand that Miller is a polarizing figure in here, but how can a guy who was drafted in the 5th round be overrated when he won a Vezina and silver medal in the Olympics? If he was a 1st rounder maybe he would be more of a let down, but c'mon man. I don't even like him and I can say calling him overrated is a reach.
- Pierceme69

Goalies are drafted all over the place. Besides his Olympic year he had average to above average #'s and has been built up to be a top 5 goalie in the league which, besides the Olympic year, he never was. Overrated in my opinion.

Goalies are drafted all over the place. Besides his Olympic year he had average to above average #'s and has been built up to be a top 5 goalie in the league which, besides the Olympic year, he never was. Overrated in my opinion.
- GilPerreault11

People around here overrated him. They expected him to be the next Hasek. Most people recognize him as what he is. A fringe top-tier goalie who had one really remarkable year. Which is what you might expect out of a 5th round pick if you aren't being unrealistic.

People around here overrated him. They expected him to be the next Hasek. Most people recognize him as what he is. A fringe top-tier goalie who had one really remarkable year. Which is what you might expect out of a 5th round pick if you aren't being unrealistic.
- Pierceme69

When he started making 6 mil a year he broke from the 5th round expectations and when you stated people around here overrated him, well there we have it, overrated player. Around the league he was even more overrated me thinks.

He is overrated by many because, besides Briere, few have seen a top line center in a Sabres uniform and Briere wasn't a top end #1 center. Drury is all they have to compare and strive for. Like the Bills' inability to get a #1 QB,one of Darcy's huge mistakes was his inability to get at least one true #1 center in his 17 years as GM.
- GilPerreault11

Briere was a top end center when he played here.. its not even worth argument. I've had it on here with a select few on here before.. Drury wasn't a 1st line player for sure but he played like a 2nd liner here and he was essential for our success that doesn't show up in the stats.

So I'm reading the earlier posts about how we should trade for Kevin Hayes...
And while I don't think that's a bad idea,
I would like to compare him to a guy that keeps getting called "overrated" by MANY on here

Yep... Im talking about ROR

Do u guys realize that O'Reilly is only ONE year older than Hayes?

While Hayes spent FOUR years in College,
O'Reilly has been in the NHL the entire time

And has far more points in the NHL, than Hayes had in college!!!

ROR was 22 last year...
Younger than Hodgson and Ennis
A better scorer than both (I know, he's on a better team)
But also MUCH better defensively than either

ROR is a #2 center?
Fine
He's better than our other options at the spot

The guy is a very good player
Maybe not superstar, but still could be an important piece to a Cup winning team

As long as the price is not ridiculous

So I'm reading the earlier posts about how we should trade for Kevin Hayes...
And while I don't think that's a bad idea,
I would like to compare him to a guy that keeps getting called "overrated" by MANY on here

Yep... Im talking about ROR

Do u guys realize that O'Reilly is only ONE year older than Hayes?

While Hayes spent FOUR years in College,
O'Reilly has been in the NHL the entire time

And has far more points in the NHL, than Hayes had in college!!!

ROR was 22 last year...
Younger than Hodgson and Ennis
A better scorer than both (I know, he's on a better team)
But also MUCH better defensively than either

ROR is a #2 center?
Fine
He's better than our other options at the spot

The guy is a very good player
Maybe not superstar, but still could be an important piece to a Cup winning team

As long as the price is not ridiculous
- jdfitz77

Personally, I think we have our ROR already here. He wears #28. Give him a couple more years; the offense will come, and coupled with his tenacious forechecking, his physical game and just his overall, unmatchable work ethic and determination, he will be one of the best two-way players in the league.


*waits for mr. squirrel*

Briere was a top end center when he played here.. its not even worth argument. I've had it on here with a select few on here before.. Drury wasn't a 1st line player for sure but he played like a 2nd liner here and he was essential for our success that doesn't show up in the stats.
- bluengold12

Briere was a top line center, but not a prototypical one. Like I said he was not a top end #1 line center. He was a top line center without size and without d zone skills who had one 95 pt season, and a 72 pt year, the others were in the 60 pt range with 32 goals the most he scored with the Sabres. A poor mans top line center in my opinion 'and it's not even worth debate."

Personally, I think we have our ROR already here. He wears #28. Give him a couple more years; the offense will come, and coupled with his tenacious forechecking, his physical game and just his overall, unmatchable work ethic and determination, he will be one of the best two-way players in the league.


*waits for mr. squirrel*
- grand-magus

I hope girgs gets to there offensively. Just got a feeling he wont.

Briere was a top line center, but not a prototypical one. Like I said he was not a top end #1 line center. He was a top line center without size and without d zone skills who had one 95 pt season, and a 72 pt year, the others were in the 60 pt range with 32 goals the most he scored with the Sabres. A poor mans top line center in my opinion 'and it's not even worth debate."
- GilPerreault11

Considering he was the best player we've had since Mogilny or Lafontaine I'd say he was a top guy. He doesn't have the size who cares.. He was also our best player on the best team we've had maybe not counting the French connection years of course. Yeah better than the 99 team too.

Personally, I think we have our ROR already here. He wears #28. Give him a couple more years; the offense will come, and coupled with his tenacious forechecking, his physical game and just his overall, unmatchable work ethic and determination, he will be one of the best two-way players in the league.


*waits for mr. squirrel*
- grand-magus

Would it be so bad to have TWO guys like that?
Girgensons is obviously still a question mark as to how he will top out... And while I'm hopeful you're right...
He hasn't shown enough (YET) to pass up an opportunity to get ROR...

IF
The price is decent

Considering he was the best player we've had since Mogilny or Lafontaine I'd say he was a top guy. He doesn't have the size who cares.. He was also our best player on the best team we've had maybe not counting the French connection years of course. Yeah better than the 99 team too.
- bluengold12

Just because he was the Sabres best "skater" since LaFontaine, Mogilny and Hawerchuck doesn't mean league wide he was a truly top end #1 center. I mean you can compare CoHo to the "99 team and he may have been a #1 center on that team.

Just because he was the Sabres best "skater" since LaFontaine, Mogilny and Hawerchuck doesn't mean league wide he was a truly top end #1 center. I mean you can compare CoHo to the "99 team and he may have been a #1 center on that team.
- GilPerreault11

Where'd this debate come from?
Are we trying to compare what we want out of our future centers to Briere/Drury?

Where'd this debate come from?
Are we trying to compare what we want out of our future centers to Briere/Drury?
- jdfitz77

In my opinion we want at least one center better than Briere or Drury

In my opinion we want at least one center better than Briere and Drury
- GilPerreault11

I think Reinhart has the potential to be a combo of both
ROR would also be a better scoring Drury
As far as a straight up scorer goes...
McDavid/Eichel should both be better than Briere
McDavid will give u great speed
Eichel adds grit

Joe Juneau wasn't here long enough to have a cup of coffee let alone to be "overrated".
- buffalofan19

No one said anything about how long a player had to be here.

Joe Juneau came here with a ton of hype and failed miserably no matter how long he was in a Sabres sweater.

overrated Miller
underrated Hajt

No one said anything about how long a player had to be here.

Joe Juneau came here with a ton of hype and failed miserably no matter how long he was in a Sabres sweater.
- BuffaloHardHat

he had 11 points in 20 playoff games that season for the sabres


I had no problem with him, it's not like that sabre team was a goal scoring machine

You want to see an angry mob ? Check out Detroit's board . They want Ken Holland's head on a stick. Fact is Detroit is not the destination it once was . The building is not the greatest anymore and many do not relish living in Metropolitan Detroit . The Subarbs are nice . I have family in a few of them . All the fans think Mr Nill was the brains behind Holland and are panicking.