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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:02 AM ET
So we need to have injured players to win . Maybe you could come in and work them over before each game .



- Maximum Signal



I think he's saying that Armia is used his wrist injury as a crutch. I don't think I buy that, although the "having to get used to the North American game" part alarms me. I hadn't really heard that one before until Armia's case, at least not from any European that really became an effective player.
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:06 AM ET
This blog should be about hockey, the Sabres and the NHL not about politics and all the other crap that starts a problem.
- SABRES 89



Agreed...
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:07 AM ET
This blog should be about hockey, the Sabres and the NHL not about politics and all the other crap that starts a problem.
- SABRES 89



By the way..... How is everything out west?
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 10 @ 9:07 AM ET
I think he's saying that Armia is used his wrist injury as a crutch. I don't think I buy that, although the "having to get used to the North American game" part alarms me. I hadn't really heard that one before until Armia's case, at least not from any European that really became an effective player.
- buffalofan19


I have heard the Euro thing before . It was not made up for Armia . Part of Detroit's success with European players has been letting them develop in the farm system before subjecting them to the NHL.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 10 @ 9:09 AM ET
I think he's saying that Armia is used his wrist injury as a crutch. I don't think I buy that, although the "having to get used to the North American game" part alarms me. I hadn't really heard that one before until Armia's case, at least not from any European that really became an effective player.
- buffalofan19


First, I'm not sure it's ever been quoted from the team that this is true, just us hockeybuzz experts.

Second, the kid was 20, coming over to what IS a "different game" and played in the minors. He showed improvement as the season went on and as many say, was big in the playoffs on a team that got eliminated.

That shows me a lot of development, exactly what I'm interested in seeing.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:09 AM ET
By the way..... How is everything out west?
- rapperray

HOT
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 10 @ 9:10 AM ET
I happen to be a govt. worker and I take great offense to your asinine comment....
- rapperray


Well, I think intelligent people have learned that making general, broad-based statements about a group of people is about as dumb as it gets. We have seen it through out history...used to ethnic based, then it targeted those with a different sexual orientation. We have heard it before about Union people.
What I will say is that the protection a Union gives to INDIVIDUAL workers makes it more difficult to Get rid of poor performers, or those who abuse the system. In non-union Employers, the management can more easily get rid of those they want. So, after some time, it may be that a group of Union workers are less productive than a group of non union workers. HOWEVER, individuals within the Union may be the most productive as well.
In summary...it is all an individual thing...not group based.
The squirrel has succeeded in stirring the pot.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 10 @ 9:11 AM ET
I think he's saying that Armia is used his wrist injury as a crutch. I don't think I buy that, although the "having to get used to the North American game" part alarms me. I hadn't really heard that one before until Armia's case, at least not from any European that really became an effective player.
- buffalofan19


Ummm...Risto.
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:11 AM ET
HOT
- SABRES 89



Sorry...... A word to those who are worried about the Sabres being too good this season...... Relax..... They were soooo bad last season that they will only be moderately better..... I still see them as the cellar dweller only a tad more competitive...
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:13 AM ET
Well, I think intelligent people have learned that making general, broad-based statements about a group of people is about as dumb as it gets. We have seen it through out history...used to ethnic based, then it targeted those with a different sexual orientation. We have heard it before about Union people.
What I will say is that the protection a Union gives to INDIVIDUAL workers makes it more difficult to Get rid of poor performers, or those who abuse the system. In non-union Employers, the management can more easily get rid of those they want. So, after some time, it may be that a group of Union workers are less productive than a group of non union workers. HOWEVER, individuals within the Union may be the most productive as well.
In summary...it is all an individual thing...not group based.
The squirrel has succeeded in stirring the pot.

- IonSabres




He has not stirred the pot as well as you may think... We have dealt with his kind on here before....
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 10 @ 9:15 AM ET
Sorry...... A word to those who are worried about the Sabres being too good this season...... Relax..... They were soooo bad last season that they will only be moderately better..... I still see them as the cellar dweller only a tad more competitive...
- rapperray


I agree. I don't see this team making a big leap, but will be improved and more entertaining. Lookout on this board when they start putting together some wining streaks...the alarm bells will be ringing loudly.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 10 @ 9:18 AM ET
He has not stirred the pot as well as you may think... We have dealt with his kind on here before....
- rapperray


Like my parents taught me .. Ignore them, they eventually go away.
Such negativism, what a waste of life always finding what is wrong. Rather that complaining about it, go fix it...but it better be damn well perfect.
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:19 AM ET
Like my parents taught me .. Ignore them, they eventually go away.
Such negativism, what a waste of life always finding what is wrong. Rather that complaining about it, go fix it...but it better be damn well perfect.

- IonSabres




Your parents are very wise..............
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:20 AM ET
I think he's saying that Armia is used his wrist injury as a crutch. I don't think I buy that, although the "having to get used to the North American game" part alarms me. I hadn't really heard that one before until Armia's case, at least not from any European that really became an effective player.
- buffalofan19

If he didn't steadily improve at the end of the year I'd maybe agree, but he said it was the schedule of the North American game, not the game itself
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:24 AM ET
First, I'm not sure it's ever been quoted from the team that this is true, just us hockeybuzz experts.

Second, the kid was 20, coming over to what IS a "different game" and played in the minors. He showed improvement as the season went on and as many say, was big in the playoffs on a team that got eliminated.

That shows me a lot of development, exactly what I'm interested in seeing.

- stashu


I think the biggest difference is the size of the ice surface.
MrSquirrel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:29 AM ET
I don't know what I'm talking about. Soooooo high end talent with effort doesn't win? We need guys like Myers, Stafford and Grigerenko who are low energy guys to win. All I said was facts, buffalo has zero scoring forwards for the amerks who are prospects, Luke Adam isn't a prospect anymore, guys like Armia, girgensons and Catenncai can't even score at AHL level. Facts, another fact, girgensons was 41% on faceoffs.
MrSquirrel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:29 AM ET
Mike Ryan former sabre and Amerks had more goals than Armia on that euro floater team lol, what does that tell you.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:38 AM ET
I don't know what I'm talking about. Soooooo high end talent with effort doesn't win? We need guys like Myers, Stafford and Grigerenko who are low energy guys to win. All I said was facts, buffalo has zero scoring forwards for the amerks who are prospects, Luke Adam isn't a prospect anymore, guys like Armia, girgensons and Catenncai can't even score at AHL level. Facts, another fact, girgensons was 41% on faceoffs.
- MrSquirrel



Zemgus is the truth.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:45 AM ET
I have heard the Euro thing before . It was not made up for Armia . Part of Detroit's success with European players has been letting them develop in the farm system before subjecting them to the NHL.
- Maximum Signal


This. Basing a young kid's future on a half season of minor league hockey is foolish. I can't imagine how much different the game is going to a smaller ice surface. He started to put it together towards the end of the year and was excellent in the playoffs.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 10 @ 9:56 AM ET
This. Basing a young kid's future on a half season of minor league hockey is foolish. I can't imagine how much different the game is going to a smaller ice surface. He started to put it together towards the end of the year and was excellent in the playoffs.
- Slump Buster


I do wish the NHL would move to the larger ice surface we see in Euro and the Olympics as it does open the game up more and gives the skill players more room to use their skills on...even going halfway would be an improvement in my mind.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:59 AM ET
This. Basing a young kid's future on a half season of minor league hockey is foolish. I can't imagine how much different the game is going to a smaller ice surface. He started to put it together towards the end of the year and was excellent in the playoffs.
- Slump Buster

I'm pretty sure Armia said that the toughest part was the schedule of NA hockey, and not the actual game.

Either way, he said he knows how hard he needs to work and next year he will be prepared
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
Chevy's policy for not making player for player trades continues. Only GM in the NHL that does not believe in trading players for players.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
I do wish the NHL would move to the larger ice surface we see in Euro and the Olympics as it does open the game up more and gives the skill players more room to use their skills on...even going halfway would be an improvement in my mind.
- IonSabres


If Olympic Hockey is any indicator, you may get one more goal per game.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:05 AM ET
Chevy's policy for not making player for player trades continues. Only GM in the NHL that does not believe in trading players for players.
- TheUltimateJet

So does that mean we can get Kane for a bunch of picks? oh my
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 10 @ 10:09 AM ET
I think the biggest difference is the size of the ice surface.
- sippyd


Definitely, which causes changes to the overall game (timing, angles, etc), so it's understandable.
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