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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
IMO if he isn't on the 3rd line, he's not playing.


You know i like him though.

- dadeadhead

move ott to the lw

ott, girgens, flynn

dump foligno to 4th line?

flynn is a much better all around player then foligno IMO, and can be a beast on pk

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:56 AM ET


I have a hunch that kid is going to score more goals than Kane ever would.

Anyone in Rochester other than Armia, Risto, or Grigorenko (barring any other names I just can't think of, but I think these are the only 3)

- stashu

I'd dump Gringo for Kane
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
There has to be a main piece bigger than CoHo IMO.

It's like saying Tomas Tatar and a few picks for Myers.... I don't think that would fly.

IMO it would have to be CoHo+ someone like Armia or Pysyk + a token 2nd

- sbroads24


You're trading a .57 points per game player for a .62 points per game player.

You are really over valuing that .05 points per game aren't you? I mean they are both - players. Maybe BEcasue Ek shoots Left?

Another example of Hockey Buzzards undervaluing the talent on this roster and overvaluing a guy on another...
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
I'd dump Gringo for Kane
- SABRES 89


Yeah, of the 3 I'd give him more easily, but I also don't really want Kane either, so I'd prefer to keep Grigorenko as a Sabre
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
I'd dump Gringo for Kane
- SABRES 89

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:58 AM ET


I have a hunch that kid is going to score more goals than Kane ever would.

Anyone in Rochester other than Armia, Risto, or Grigorenko (barring any other names I just can't think of, but I think these are the only 3)

- stashu


I have high hopes for him too, but that's my point. I was drawing the comparison between our ask for Myers and the Jets ask for Kane. Most here wouldn't even entertain the thought of a deal with Detroit without Mantha coming the other way. I'm under the assumption that Winnipeg will do the same.

I get that he wants out and that hurts their leverage a bit but factoring in his age, talent level, style of play and contract, I can't see him being moved for anything less than (at the very least) what Kesler got.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
move ott to the lw

ott, girgens, flynn

dump foligno to 4th line?

flynn is a much better all around player then foligno IMO, and can be a beast on pk

- homiedclown



Might as well trade Foligno then IMO.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:59 AM ET
Might as well trade Foligno then IMO.
- dadeadhead

I am fine with that

foligno, coho and the blues first for kane
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:59 AM ET
You're trading a .57 points per game player for a .62 points per game player.

You are really over valuing that .05 points per game aren't you? I mean they are both - players. Maybe BEcasue Ek shoots Left?

Another example of Hockey Buzzards undervaluing the talent on this roster and overvaluing a guy on another...

- RynoBull



I don't think he's saying he would, but rather that's the kind of deal they would look for, a massive overpay.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:00 AM ET

- homiedclown

He will be another lazy russian, 5 games a week and he will show up for 2-2.5 of them.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
I have high hopes for him too, but that's my point. I was drawing the comparison between our ask for Myers and the Jets ask for Kane. Most here wouldn't even entertain the thought of a deal with Detroit without Mantha coming the other way. I'm under the assumption that Winnipeg will do the same.

I get that he wants out and that hurts their leverage a bit but factoring in his age, talent level, style of play and contract, I can't see him being moved for anything less than (at the very least) what Kesler got.

- Sabresfan-365



Kesler didn't get them much though.

A poss #2 center (Cody)
The 24th pick in the draft (St Louis 1st)
Sbisa (2016 2nd and Carrier are worth more).
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
Kesler didn't get them much though.

A poss #2 center (Cody)
The 24th pick in the draft (St Louis 1st)
Sbisa (2016 2nd and Carrier are worth more).

- dadeadhead


That's exactly it though

Kane>Kesler. The deal would have to start with, at the bare minimum, Hodgson, STL 1st, Carrier.

More likely that with multiple teams involved, that's going to turn into giving up a guy like Armia.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
He will be another lazy russian, 5 games a week and he will show up for 2-2.5 of them.
- SABRES 89

better % then vanek or myers

(hides)
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
I have high hopes for him too, but that's my point. I was drawing the comparison between our ask for Myers and the Jets ask for Kane. Most here wouldn't even entertain the thought of a deal with Detroit without Mantha coming the other way. I'm under the assumption that Winnipeg will do the same.

I get that he wants out and that hurts their leverage a bit but factoring in his age, talent level, style of play and contract, I can't see him being moved for anything less than (at the very least) what Kesler got.

- Sabresfan-365


I've always been a big fan of building from within, so I'm happy with what the team has developing.

I don't want Kane on the team (THAT Kane anyways), and I'm not sold that he'll be a guy who is going to put up big number through his career.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:09 AM ET
better % then vanek or myers

(hides)

- homiedclown

I disagree with that
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:11 AM ET
move ott to the lw

ott, girgens, flynn

dump foligno to 4th line?

flynn is a much better all around player then foligno IMO, and can be a beast on pk

- homiedclown

Now THAT is a damn good 3rd line
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 11:11 AM ET
You're trading a .57 points per game player for a .62 points per game player.

You are really over valuing that .05 points per game aren't you? I mean they are both - players. Maybe BEcasue Ek shoots Left?

Another example of Hockey Buzzards undervaluing the talent on this roster and overvaluing a guy on another...

- RynoBull

Sure if they were both 1 trick pony's like Hodgson.

I like Hodgson, but Evander Kane is bigger, faster, meaner and has more talent. He's a better player with an attitude problem.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 9 @ 11:12 AM ET
disagree


I never thought I would see a team go up 7-0 in any world cup match, let alone the semi final game on anther teams turf


this was an outdoor soccer game, not a game played in the aud with jim may in goal, correct?

- homiedclown








Loved me some Stallions soccer!

Carlos Salguero!
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
He will be another lazy russian, 5 games a week and he will show up for 2-2.5 of them.
- SABRES 89


Why.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
Sure if they were both 1 trick pony's like Hodgson.

I like Hodgson, but Evander Kane is bigger, faster, meaner and has more talent. He's a better player with an attitude problem.

- sbroads24



Maybe he's tired of playing for a losing franchise.


Buffalo at least things are looking up.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:15 AM ET
Now THAT is a damn good 3rd line
- CaptainRivet

Nice Av capt. Is that the one from years ago ?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
You people should go read a blog that was just posted about E. Kane
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
You people should go read a blog that was just posted about E. Kane
- SABRES 89



What he doesn't talk about is Big Buff's zero want to play forward.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
What he doesn't talk about is Big Buff's zero want to play forward.
- dadeadhead

I guess I can't get any backup in that blog?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
I guess I can't get any backup in that blog?
- SABRES 89



I tend not to go where I'm not welcomed.

A NJ blog about a Winnipeg player seems like a Garth move.
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