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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 6 @ 7:22 PM ET
Myers to Det, for Nyquist & Tatar?

Meszaros makes Myers expendable.

- SuperCat



That is less then i want ..

he's going to be in our division , playoffs ..

i want a lot
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 7:23 PM ET
Chara plays a totally different game than Myers. To continually compare Myers to Chara is absurd.

Chara is physical/tough.

Myers can skate ok for a big guy

- Irish 14

These convos get exhausting. As time goes on more make believe things become facts.

Myers is more than an ok skater, for his size he's elite. He also has more skill than Chara. You are right, Chara is tougher and just flat out better.

If the Myers/Chara comparisons "have to stop" than the Myers/Delmore comparisons have to stop.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jul 6 @ 7:23 PM ET
I happen to be a Nyquist fan. But, I'm just as happy watching him play for Detroit.

I think you Myers' fans are taking much of this way too personally. It's unhealthy.

I doubt anyone on this site is trying to run 57 out of town. But if the right deal came along, 90% of us - without hesitation - would pull the trigger, while the other 10% are dialing suicide hotline.

- grand-magus


Agree, if the deal fits - move forward!
sbroads24
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Jul 6 @ 7:24 PM ET
Myers to Det, for Nyquist & Tatar?

Meszaros makes Myers expendable.

- SuperCat

Mezaros makes McBain expendable, that's about it
Maximum Signal
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Jul 6 @ 7:25 PM ET
Chara plays a totally different game than Myers. To continually compare Myers to Chara is absurd.

Chara is physical/tough.

Myers can skate ok for a big guy

- Irish 14


He is a great skater for a big man . Much better than Chara . Maybe he is never is mean as Chara . Who cares if he has better skills . Big men take longer to develop as a rule of thumb . Why ? I don't know . Just the way it is .

At the same age Myers is now Chara was a throw in as part of a trade from the Islanders to Ottawa . So I like Myers development so far . That is how he is being compared to Chara . By the size of his frame . I will take Myers at this stage of their careers..
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jul 6 @ 7:25 PM ET
Mezaros makes McBain expendable, that's about it
- sbroads24


and he will be gone at the deadline
grand-magus
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Jul 6 @ 7:26 PM ET
There's a difference between comparing the type of player, and comparing there growth curve.

Myers will never play like Chara, but he could mature along the same curve.

2 franchises gave up on Chara....

- sbroads24



Neither franchise "gave up" on him.

NYI simply made a bad trade (hey, what else is new with that franchise? :lol

Ottawa could only sign one of its two ufa defensemen, and they chose Redden. Again, hindsight is 20/20.

Would Murray make the correct choice?

Who knows?

None of us knows, UNLESS WE KNOW THE VARIABLES.
Maximum Signal
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Jul 6 @ 7:27 PM ET
Mezaros makes McBain expendable, that's about it
- sbroads24


Any teams rumored to be giving McBain a look ? Just curious not a fan.
Irish 14
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Jul 6 @ 7:27 PM ET
Neither franchise "gave up" on him.

NYI simply made a bad trade (hey, what else is new with that franchise? :lol

Ottawa could only sign one of its two ufa defensemen, and they chose Redden. Again, hindsight is 20/20.

Would Murray make the correct choice?

Who knows?

None of us knows, UNLESS WE KNOW THE VARIABLES.

- grand-magus



Starting to like this guy! Which I think I know who is - former _______
Sabresfan-365
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Jul 6 @ 7:27 PM ET
Which is my point.

Nyquist is fantastic despite only having 1 great stretch of hockey, Myers should be traded because he's only had 1 great stretch of hockey

- sbroads24


This x10.

When I first joined this site one of the 1st posts i saw was that sabres fans are notorious for undervaluing their own players while overvaluing those with similar skill/stats on other teams.

Tyler Myers is the whipping boy for that mantra.
sbroads24
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Jul 6 @ 7:28 PM ET
and he will be gone at the deadline
- GERBE!!!75PTS

"Myers gets hurt too much "

Yet Mezaros who has missed over 150 games in the last 3 years makes him expendable.

What can we make up next?
sbroads24
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Jul 6 @ 7:29 PM ET
This x10.

When I first joined this site one of the 1st posts i saw was that sabres fans are notorious for undervaluing their own players while overvaluing those with similar skill/stats on other teams.

Tyler Myers is the whipping boy for that mantra.

- Sabresfan-365

That was my post BTW
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jul 6 @ 7:30 PM ET
Any teams rumored to be giving McBain a look ? Just curious not a fan.
- Maximum Signal



yep overseas
sbroads24
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Jul 6 @ 7:33 PM ET
This x10.

When I first joined this site one of the 1st posts i saw was that sabres fans are notorious for undervaluing their own players while overvaluing those with similar skill/stats on other teams.

Tyler Myers is the whipping boy for that mantra.

- Sabresfan-365

I'm gonna use some of that logic.

Matt Moulson is 6'1 200lbs, therefore he has to be as tough as every 6'1 200lb player or smaller. And I will criticize him every time he isn't
rover16
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Jul 6 @ 7:33 PM ET
*Posted this earlier but it was at the end of the page so I don't know if anyone noticed

Some Red Wings' fans on Bleacher Report came up with a trade offer I think you guys should hear:

Myers for Weiss, Kindl, 2016 1st, Tatar, Ferraro

I don't like it much. First off we take a bad contract on an injury riddled player like Weiss, whom regardless of our cap situation, isn't worth it. Then we take on Kindl, a less than adequate replacement for Myers. We also get a 2016 1st instead of a more desirable 2015 first. Tatar, I don't have problems with acquiring at all. Then we finish it off with Ferraro, a guy who really hasn't raised an eyebrow with his play in the AHL yet. Overall, it's not the Nyquist++ deal we want so I'd reject it if I'm GMTM

- SabresNHL


Its a spare part trade that every teams fans try to throw out. "Ill take one of your better players with huge upside and give you a bunch of pieces that we were throwing out anyways". Expect to give up something that you really dont wanna give up, if you want him. For me, its mantha plus.

Maximum Signal
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Jul 6 @ 7:34 PM ET
I'm gonna use some of that logic.

Matt Moulson is 6'1 200lbs, therefore he has to be as tough as every 6'1 200lb player or smaller. And I will criticize him every time he isn't

- sbroads24


You finally get the logic , or lack of ! . Good for you !


Sabresfan-365
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Jul 6 @ 7:36 PM ET
That was my post BTW
- sbroads24



Really? How about that
sbroads24
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Jul 6 @ 7:39 PM ET
Really? How about that
- Sabresfan-365

I remember our convo about it.

Every player not on the Sabres is better than the players on the Sabres.

Seriously, how many goalies have you heard over the last 5-6 years that are better than Miller according to some fans? Or wingers better than Pominville and Vanek?
sbroads24
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Jul 6 @ 7:42 PM ET
You finally get the logic , or lack of ! . Good for you !



- Maximum Signal

I love this site, and love debating things like this. I also like Myers partly because he's so polarizing, but the things people make up out of thin air that becomes known as facts are getting ridiculous
SABRES 89
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Jul 6 @ 7:43 PM ET
Just got a text back............ Sabres have not contacted the Wings about Myers

That was all I got but if more is found out i'll post.
grand-magus
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Jul 6 @ 7:44 PM ET
Just got a text back............ Sabres have not contacted the Wings about Myers

That was all I got but if more is found out i'll post.

- SABRES 89



So the rumor is just that?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 6 @ 7:45 PM ET
You wear out those same tired examples . Myers is a keeper . Why do you think the rumors keep coming up about him ? Because other teams realize that and also realize too much pressure was put on him too soon here . They see the potential . That who is starting the rumors . Murray has said that on numerous occasions and joked about it . If we trade him a get a huge return , Great ! But you do not trade him just for the sake of making a move .
- Maximum Signal

where did I say otherwise?
SABRES 89
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Jul 6 @ 7:45 PM ET
So the rumor is just that?
- grand-magus

It would sound like it as of now, if he hears anything else in the next few days or week he will let me know.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 6 @ 7:47 PM ET
That year no. Should we hold a grudge forever though?
- sbroads24

great players do not respond that way once they get paid


nothing more, nothing less
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 6 @ 7:48 PM ET
If Myers were to be moved, it has to be for more than just spare parts.

You need there best prospect +

- sbroads24

young first line winger plus IMO
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