Agreed... It's more of a pipe dream to see his 3M a year vanish
- MrBeanTown

Question for you - how is it Marc Savard is still a cap hit per capgeek wouldn't he be on ltir

never mind I should have read the other posts

He still has a house here in ottawa i have heard
- top shelf 15

Kelly & a 2015 2nd rounder for Weircoch

willie mitchell
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I do like him.

Kelly & a 2015 2nd rounder for Weircoch
- MrBeanTown

Done fax the papers

Is anyone listening to WGR? They are saying we should have traded Ehrhoff because TM could have prepared for the recapture.

Is anyone listening to WGR? They are saying we should have traded Ehrhoff because TM could have prepared for the recapture.
- benny948

I am listening . Hillarious !!

I am listening . Hillarious !!
- Maximum Signal

I just wish I could call in and tell them how stupid they are. They also think Ehrhoff will play for $1 million when he is 38 because Dan Boyle is still playing.

The reality is we have no idea what Ehrhoff would have done at the end of his contract. It's easy to speculate and assume he'd retire because he only makes $1 million in that year, but he may feel like playing some more. I still think Murray panicked a bit here, and would rather not see him refuse to acquire assets simply because the team is afraid he might retire in 6 years instead of 7.

I just wish I could call in and tell them how stupid they are. They also think Ehrhoff will play for $1 million when he is 38 because Dan Boyle is still playing.
- benny948

Yep. . Believe Dan Boyle is still fielding offers at 39 was the quote

The reality is we have no idea what Ehrhoff would have done at the end of his contract. It's easy to speculate and assume he'd retire because he only makes $1 million in that year, but he may feel like playing some more. I still think Murray panicked a bit here, and would rather not see him refuse to acquire assets simply because the team is afraid he might retire in 6 years instead of 7.
- buffalofan19

From what it sounds like to me, he tried to trade him during the draft. Couldn't get any takers. He didn't like Ehrhoff's attitude and felt it was best to remove it from the room.

Does it suck? In a lot of ways, yes. I thin it does. But at th same time, I'd rather Murray not have to worry/prepare for the possibility of limiting the cap a bit in case he did retire prior to the expiry.

From what it sounds like to me, he tried to trade him during the draft. Couldn't get any takers. He didn't like Ehrhoff's attitude and felt it was best to remove it from the room.

Does it suck? In a lot of ways, yes. I thin it does. But at th same time, I'd rather Murray not have to worry/prepare for the possibility of limiting the cap a bit in case he did retire prior to the expiry.
- HonkFortheGoose

That's just it though. It wasn't that there weren't any takers. It sounds like they didn't feel any return was enough to compensate for the fact that they might (key word might) have to face $10 million of additional cap space. In other words, Murray cut him because teams wouldn't reimburse him for his problem.

Is anyone listening to WGR? They are saying we should have traded Ehrhoff because TM could have prepared for the recapture.
- benny948

WGR = a complete waste of time and a collection of biased homers.

That's just it though. It wasn't that there weren't any takers. It sounds like they didn't feel any return was enough to compensate for the fact that they might (key word might) have to face $10 million of additional cap space. In other words, Murray cut him because teams wouldn't reimburse him for his problem.
- buffalofan19

It's really a catch 22. I kind of like that he's got more of a clean slate now. The part I don't like is our very young team just got a whole lot younger.

It's really a catch 22. I kind of like that he's got more of a clean slate now. The part I don't like is our very young team just got a whole lot younger.
- HonkFortheGoose

I also didn't like Murray saying he couldn't help improve the team. To me, that says they wanted him out more than he wanted out. That's not to say he wanted to stay, but no matter how no-nonsense and straightforward he sounds, there's more to this story.

you guys want Erikson?

WGR = a complete waste of time and a collection of biased homers.
- PassionBucket16

I will say Schopp does have a point though. For a team that just justified raising ticket prices because of revenue sharing (which I don't have a problem in of itself), paying a more than serviceable player $12 million to walk away seems more than just a little disingenuous.

you guys want Erikson?
- 77emac77

Relax now LOL

I think Loui will be playing L1 this year with Lucic and Krejci. He really came into form after the Olympics. I'm not giving up on him yet

I also didn't like Murray saying he couldn't help improve the team. To me, that says they wanted him out more than he wanted out. That's not to say he wanted to stay, but no matter how no-nonsense and straightforward he sounds, there's more to this story.
- buffalofan19

More to what though? Ehrhoff wanted to leave. I highly doubt Murray just threw a player under the bus for no reason. He has to convince players to come here someday.

As Murray said, if you don't want to be here we will make that happen. Ehrhoff wasn't thrilled here so they moved him. Ehrhoff also wasn't good enough to dictate any direction the team was heading, so like Murray said cutting bait was easy.

I think you are making it more complex than it is. It's just two parties separating that had differences.

I also didn't like Murray saying he couldn't help improve the team. To me, that says they wanted him out more than he wanted out. That's not to say he wanted to stay, but no matter how no-nonsense and straightforward he sounds, there's more to this story.
- buffalofan19

Murray is on WGR right now. In case anyone wanted to know.

I will say Schopp does have a point though. For a team that just justified raising ticket prices because of revenue sharing (which I don't have a problem in of itself), paying a more than serviceable player $12 million to walk away seems more than just a little disingenuous.
- buffalofan19

They need to not care at all what we think during this process.

In three years when we are good, you will be surprised how little you remember times like these.

More to what though? Ehrhoff wanted to leave. I highly doubt Murray just threw a player under the bus for no reason. He has to convince players to come here someday.

As Murray said, if you don't want to be here we will make that happen. Ehrhoff wasn't thrilled here so they moved him. Ehrhoff also wasn't good enough to dictate any direction the team was heading, so like Murray said cutting bait was easy.

I think you are making it more complex than it is. It's just two parties separating that had differences.
- sbroads24

If that was the case, they would have traded him. They would have taken something for him. The reality is he's most likely going to get more per year than he did in Buffalo when all is said and done. A team paying a player more than a team he was just cut by says there's more to that story.

Again, I'm not upset that they let him go. I'm upset that they let him go for nothing. I understand the recapture implications, and I absolutely say "so what?"

Is anyone listening to WGR? They are saying we should have traded Ehrhoff because TM could have prepared for the recapture.
- benny948

Not there money and maybe it occurred to Murray that the recap penalty could hit the sabres about the time a lot of our young guys are hitting ufa

Great Murray interview right now on WGR..

"Legitimate NHL players are calling"

Late to the party I guess.

If that was the case, they would have traded him. They would have taken something for him. The reality is he's most likely going to get more per year than he did in Buffalo when all is said and done. A team paying a player more than a team he was just cut by says there's more to that story.

Again, I'm not upset that they let him go. I'm upset that they let him go for nothing. I understand the recapture implications, and I absolutely say "so what?"
- buffalofan19

Well, Murray just said they absolutely could have traded him. He didn't think that was the right way to go due to the penalties that could be imposed if he retired early. So basically he didn't want to get punished for something Darcy did.

It really was a no win situation. You won't be that upset about all of this when we have plenty of cap space to sign Reinhart and whoever it is that we get next year to the deals they're going to need.