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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:59 PM ET
Michigan had an off year and a lot of injuries . Please don't try and twist your facts so you have another reason to bag on the Sabres . Compher is a different player than Kennedy and you still want to compare them . Also NCAA is sending far more players to the NHL now then they were in 2007 . They are preparing the players much better now.
- Maximum Signal

stop that poop

your better then that

I WAS POINTING OUT THAT BECAUSE A PLAYER IS GOOD AS A FRESHMAN DOES NOT MEAN HE WILL BE A TOP 6 PLAYER IN THE NHL


JESUS (frank)ING CHRIST



Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
That's what i meant, i normally differentiate them by saying Michigan or U-Michigan (i know it's weird whatever )


If were talking in terms of the sekera trade though, right now canes win it because they got a great defensemen and as of right now we have an unkonwn and some one who was garbage.

- Sabresfan-365


The trade was all about Compher for Buffalo . McBain was a throw in . So we got a high 2nd for Sekera . Buffalo made the move because they were surprised Compher was still on the board . I Liked Sekera here . Canes win the trade for now . Let's revisit the trade in 4 years to determine the final winner.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
Nice post, you should do it more often.
- nfph

late


HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:01 PM ET
stop that poop

your better then that

I WAS POINTING OUT THAT BECAUSE A PLAYER IS GOOD AS A FRESHMAN DOES NOT MEAN HE WILL BE A TOP 6 PLAYER IN THE NHL


JESUS (frank)ING CHRIST

- homiedclown


BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
he helps get them to the cap floor
plays center so they can take their time with the rookie

if moved at the deadline he should fetch more then staff or stewart


murray was on the radio this weekend that the sens would prefer to get 2 players that can help them now


I'd make the call

- homiedclown


What are you giving up to get him is the question?
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
stop that poop

your better then that

I WAS POINTING OUT THAT BECAUSE A PLAYER IS GOOD AS A FRESHMAN DOES NOT MEAN HE WILL BE A TOP 6 PLAYER IN THE NHL


JESUS (frank)ING CHRIST

- homiedclown


So quit trying to undervalue him then . The trade was about him that is why you can't put a final grade on the trade as bad yet . Carolina wins for now . But in 4 years who knows . Like I said McBain was a throw in to fill a roster spot on a team that was going to tank.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:03 PM ET
What are you giving up to get him is the question?
- BigStew

weber and staff or stewart

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:04 PM ET
So quit trying to undervalue him then . The trade was about him that is why you can't put a final grade on the trade as bad yet . Carolina wins for now . But in 4 years who knows . Like I said McBain was a throw in to fill a roster spot on a team that was going to tank.
- Maximum Signal

I'll ask your opinion before I post anything again

STOP TALKING DOWN ON OTHERS
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:05 PM ET
weber and staff or stewart
- homiedclown


Re post:

Your ears would bleed from how hard you could here bryan murray slam that phone back in place

In what ass backwards universe does Mike Weber help a team, he'd be in the press box on that team.

I'd point out that Stewart and Stafford don't carry nearly enough value, but that's moot since Ottawa is trying to shed salary and get assets they can retain long term. Staff and Stew are neither as they both make north of 4 mil and are UFA's next year.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
If Moulson is the best FA we're signing it doesn't matter, we'll be at or near the bottom.
- Sabresfan-365


You didn't answer the question.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:09 PM ET
You didn't answer the question.
- sambarugh



30th


Bring me McDavid/Kylington
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:10 PM ET
The trade was all about Compher for Buffalo . McBain was a throw in . So we got a high 2nd for Sekera . Buffalo made the move because they were surprised Compher was still on the board . I Liked Sekera here . Canes win the trade for now . Let's revisit the trade in 4 years to determine the final winner.
- Maximum Signal

Like I have said 1,000 times. You can't judge a trade (especially ones involving a pick or prospect) for years


Everyone (myself included) thought Philly raped LA and Colombus in the Carter/Richards deals.

3 years later those 2 have rings, and Brayden Schenn and Sean Couterier have done nothing but underachieve
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:10 PM ET
weber and staff or stewart
- homiedclown


Can't say I would entertain that deal if I was Ottawa.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:12 PM ET
Like I have said 1,000 times. You can't judge a trade (especially ones involving a pick or prospect) for years


Everyone (myself included) thought Philly raped LA and Colombus in the Carter/Richards deals.

3 years later those 2 have rings, and Brayden Schenn and Sean Couterier have done nothing but underachieve

- sbroads24


The Nash and Bobrovsky trade was the one that got me into the whole don't judge a trade right a way. I thought columbus were the joke of the league at the time. Jokes been on me for the better part of 2 years now

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:13 PM ET
I'll ask your opinion before I post anything again

STOP TALKING DOWN ON OTHERS

- homiedclown


Post more.

Read (reed) less.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:15 PM ET
I'll ask your opinion before I post anything again

STOP TALKING DOWN ON OTHERS

- homiedclown


You should do the same , The point being made was the trade can not be given a final grade yet as the key piece on the Buffalo side of the trade is not in the NHL yet. You then took it to a whole other level of absurd. No one was bashing Sekera . Glad he had a great year at Carolina . He was one my favorite players here . But I would do the trade again to just for future potential of Compher. Good hockey trade for both sides . Why do sides have to win or lose. Maybe it becomes a Win - Win.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:15 PM ET
Like I have said 1,000 times. You can't judge a trade (especially ones involving a pick or prospect) for years


Everyone (myself included) thought Philly raped LA and Colombus in the Carter/Richards deals.

3 years later those 2 have rings, and Brayden Schenn and Sean Couterier have done nothing but underachieve

- sbroads24


This.

I think they expected too much out of that young group of players. I also think those trades were knee jerk reactions. IMO, they were stupid for trading Richards because him and Laviolette didn't get along. They should have gotten rid of the coach. Not the player.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:16 PM ET
You should do the same , The point being made was the trade can not be given a final grade yeaR as the key piece on the Buffalo side of the trade is not in the NHL . You then took it to a whole other level of absurd. No on was bashing Sekera . Glad he had a great year at Carolina . He was one my favorite players here . But I would do the trade again to just for future potential of Compher. Good hockey trade for both side . Why do sides have to win or lose. Maybe it becomes a Win - Win.
- Maximum Signal

I was a huge Sekera supporter when he was here. That being said, it's just too early to tell.

Carolina missed the playoffs just like us
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:17 PM ET
I was a huge Sekera supporter when he was here. That being said, it's just too early to tell.

Carolina missed the playoffs just like us

- sbroads24


Yup. They certainly did.

Anyone else think that Cam Ward is really overrated? I've been saying it for years but nobody ever seems to agree with me.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:17 PM ET
Re post:

Your ears would bleed from how hard you could here bryan murray slam that phone back in place

.

- Sabresfan-365

murray said he prefers to get 2 bodies that can help his team this season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:20 PM ET
You should do the same , The point being made was the trade can not be given a final grade yet as the key piece on the Buffalo side of the trade is not in the NHL yet. You then took it to a whole other level of absurd. No one was bashing Sekera . Glad he had a great year at Carolina . He was one my favorite players here . But I would do the trade again to just for future potential of Compher. Good hockey trade for both sides . Why do sides have to win or lose. Maybe it becomes a Win - Win.
- Maximum Signal

I posted this


"compher may get it done and may be another tim kennedy "


then you jump my ass




go (frank) yourself
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:21 PM ET
Serious question to the people that want to resign Moulson.

What position do you want the Sabres to finish in at the end of next season?

Serious question.

- sambarugh

You won't have to worry about Moulson or Ott coming back next season if Murray is only giving out 1-2 year deals. I was told that a few minutes ago.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:21 PM ET
Post more.

Read (reed) less.

- HonkFortheGoose




what about reid?

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:22 PM ET
murray said he prefers to get 2 bodies that can help his team this season
- homiedclown



Yea that's where we differ, I don't think either player really helps them. I think with Gryba coming back, Weber sits most games.

The trade basically becomes stafford/stewart for Spezza. I get the thinking, but I can't imagine he'd say yes to that kind of deal.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:22 PM ET
I posted this


"compher may get it done and may be another tim kennedy "


then you jump my ass




go (frank) yourself

- homiedclown


Tried to tell you they are two different type of players not a fair comparison at all . GROW UP with the telling me what to do . You are the one that turned a friendly discussion nasty .

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