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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
From Sportsnet:
There is still hope that a few youthful tweaks could breathe life into Vancouver’s aging stars. But it’s likely that fixing this team will be a project several years in the making — and one that’s already a few years too late.

- Grumpy13



Not exactly earth-shattering commentary.
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
Just say no to the donkey show.

Move him now or at least before the season starts. No more distractions and media gong show around a trade. If the ducks move the 10th and a prospect say etem take it. Honestly take anything half close.

Don't move up draft Ehlers and virtanen

Sedins ehlers virtanen kassian horvat and shinkaruk etem and burr is top 9. We get thumped this year have assets an a high pick next year to trade for 1st overall and get mcdavid.

All the worlds problems have been solved. You are welcome lol
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
I may get crapped on for this.... but do we all remember a little whiny baby getting his way in 2011. Gillis shouldve kept Hodgson.... that trade was brutal(at that particular time) Hodgson was producing points in his role and arguably would've been a difference maker more than Kassian during that cup run.
- nelson911


Been discussed to death. Awful timing & value at the time. May work out as Kassian should flourish under Desjardins.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
Been discussed to death. Awful timing & value at the time. May work out as Kassian should flourish under Desjardins.
- DrChristianTroy

Agreed, want to see him raise his game.... Betuzzi like...... ya know, pre-Steve Moore!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:44 PM ET
Been discussed to death. Awful timing & value at the time. May work out as Kassian should flourish under Desjardins.
- DrChristianTroy



I now he's still young, but if he doesn't show some legit top 6 ability more consistently this season then I think we need to start tempering our expectations.



I'd like to hear Chompsey's and Booner's thoughts on the trade again though.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
I may get crapped on for this.... but do we all remember a little whiny baby getting his way in 2011. Gillis shouldve kept Hodgson.... that trade was brutal(at that particular time) Hodgson was producing points in his role and arguably would've been a difference maker more than Kassian during that cup run.
- nelson911

How could Hodgson have been a difference maker from the press box?
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:46 PM ET
I now he's still young, but if he doesn't show some legit top 6 ability more consistently this season then I think we need to start tempering our expectations.



I'd like to hear Chompsey's and Booner's thoughts on the trade again though.

- Nucker101


He's shown flashes under awful circumstances (AV & Torts). I'm optimistic.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
I now he's still young, but if he doesn't show some legit top 6 ability more consistently this season then I think we need to start tempering our expectations.



I'd like to hear Chompsey's and Booner's thoughts on the trade again though.

- Nucker101

SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:48 PM ET
I didn't mean to suggest that the details were the same. Rather, that I don't want to see management bungle this thing like the previous regime did with Luongo.

I hope the comments are all posturing and that they get a deal done at the draft.

- Michael_Stuart



Me too... and not for 3rd liner's and a crappy prospect + late first rounder.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:51 PM ET
How could Hodgson have been a difference maker from the press box?
- A_SteamingLombardi

???

He played every game for the nucks in 2011 and was putting up some good points...

Are you referring to him not being able to play in the playoffs because its tough?
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
In all seriousness, I just don't want this turning into another fiasco where the GM thinks he can get more value for the player than he's ever actually going to get (i.e. Lu2.0).
- Michael_Stuart

The difference being, Kes walks in two years at the age of 31, not seven years at the age of 42. If the right deal isn't there and you're getting low-balled, two years is not a long time, then you keep him.
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
I now he's still young, but if he doesn't show some legit top 6 ability more consistently this season then I think we need to start tempering our expectations.



I'd like to hear Chompsey's and Booner's thoughts on the trade again though.

- Nucker101


Don't most power forwards start to develop around 24 25 years old? If I'm not mistaken isn't kass basically just getting there. Call me crazy but I think he is going to be a great 20 wish goal scoring playmaker with size
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:55 PM ET


Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 4m

Trade senses are on high alert. Starting to sound like Kesler deal is inching closer. Still working on destination, but next 24hrs, perhaps.

fwiw
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 4m

Trade senses are on high alert. Starting to sound like Kesler deal is inching closer. Still working on destination, but next 24hrs, perhaps.

fwiw

- hillbillydeluxe



Meh, I don't think Dreger has any legit sources in Vancouver, most of the info he's getting has to be coming from around the league, and I doubt they know about all offers the Canucks are getting and from which teams.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
Curious to know everyone's pro-projection comparables for Reinhart, Draisaitl, Bennett & DalColle... If you got 'em, post 'em (be as original as possible - I already know what the media & scouts are saying and I agree in some cases - don't in others).
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:59 PM ET
???

He played every game for the nucks in 2011 and was putting up some good points...

Are you referring to him not being able to play in the playoffs because its tough?

- nelson911

Check again
http://espn.go.com/nhl/pl...97/year/2011/cody-hodgson

He played 8 regular season games and didn't see the ice against Boston because of his defensive liabilities.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 3:00 PM ET
Such a vague comment.
- Nucker101


(posted by Grumpy)
From Sportsnet:
There is still hope that a few youthful tweaks could breathe life into Vancouver’s aging stars. But it’s likely that fixing this team will be a project several years in the making — and one that’s already a few years too late.

Can't get off the fence? Want to say it but not throw it in our faces? Filler?
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 26 @ 3:03 PM ET
Check again
http://espn.go.com/nhl/pl...97/year/2011/cody-hodgson

He played 8 regular season games and didn't see the ice against Boston because of his defensive liabilities.

- A_SteamingLombardi


Methinks you're lookin' @ the wrong year homie...
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:05 PM ET
Check again
http://espn.go.com/nhl/pl...97/year/2011/cody-hodgson

He played 8 regular season games and didn't see the ice against Boston because of his defensive liabilities.

- A_SteamingLombardi

OHhhhhhh right, the infamous Sami Pahlsson swap..... hmmmm
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
Meh, I don't think Dreger has any legit sources in Vancouver, most of the info he's getting has to be coming from around the league, and I doubt they know about all offers the Canucks are getting and from which teams.
- Nucker101


HB? Chicago blog? Likely just pure speculation.

Just a nice little bit of activity up to the draft before the lull of the summer.

When Benning was talking about Eriksson I wasn't sure if he was being polite to Boston or priming the market for that acquisition. but classic321 is on the money with "Plus the guy is one concussion away from Marc Savard. " - makes me queasy just reading that sentence.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
Methinks you're lookin' @ the wrong year homie...
- DrChristianTroy

Don't think so.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 4m

Trade senses are on high alert. Starting to sound like Kesler deal is inching closer. Still working on destination, but next 24hrs, perhaps.

fwiw

- hillbillydeluxe

You know Dreger's source is Eklund, don't you?
InYoFaceSukka
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 26 @ 3:08 PM ET

"Trade senses are on high alert. Starting to sound like Kesler deal is inching closer. Still working on destination, but next 24hrs, perhaps. - Darren Dreger"

Dreger tweeted this a while ago and he would never tweet out false info




DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 26 @ 3:08 PM ET
Don't think so.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I remember the Boston game and he was our only good player. Scored a rocket slapper off the crossbar... Also produced more 5 on 5 pts than Kesler before he was traded. Then again, I've been on a steady diet of Cuban cigars & flu meds all week so maybe I don't even know what you guys are arguing about...
Grumpy13
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 01.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 3:08 PM ET
(posted by Grumpy)
From Sportsnet:
There is still hope that a few youthful tweaks could breathe life into Vancouver’s aging stars. But it’s likely that fixing this team will be a project several years in the making — and one that’s already a few years too late.

Can't get off the fence? Want to say it but not throw it in our faces? Filler?

- hillbillydeluxe

Reality check. We are going to be dreadful for the next 2-3 years whatever we do, so may as well trade the vets for best available return.
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