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Incredible Malk
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: South Side, Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.23.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
We have yarry a year out or so. He looks promising
- pensfan024


A few decades ago we also had Craig Hillier who looked very promising. Jarry's at least three years away.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
package deals rarely work IMO. Sure, Parise and Sutter did in Minnesota, but ...
- Oneonta Penguin

would geno move to wing?

geno grabo kuli?

or do you trade sutter and slot grabo kuli on 3rd line?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:15 PM ET
would geno move to wing?

geno grabo kuli?

or do you trade sutter and slot grabo kuli on 3rd line?

- nh4442

unless geno wants to move, i wouldnt bump him out of C for grabo.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:15 PM ET
would geno move to wing?

geno grabo kuli?

or do you trade sutter and slot grabo kuli on 3rd line?

- nh4442

unless geno wants to move, i wouldnt bump him out of C for grabo.
Magicmanmalkin
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.25.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
package deals rarely work IMO. Sure, Parise and Sutter did in Minnesota, but ...
- Oneonta Penguin

They do not work out 90% of the time. Pens are not in the situation to be making that kind of gamble.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
if grabo and kuli want to go to same team do you try to get them?
- nh4442


Those two aren't good enough to be demanding a package deal. JMO but that would be dumb for two average players to try and pull that off.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:20 PM ET
would geno move to wing?

geno grabo kuli?

or do you trade sutter and slot grabo kuli on 3rd line?

- nh4442

It's not like Grabo can't play wing.

I'd be all for bringing in Grabo/Kulemin.

Re-sign Goc and trade Sutter for a good piece+pick.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:22 PM ET
Those two aren't good enough to be demanding a package deal. JMO but that would be dumb for two average players to try and pull that off.
- madmike71

Think of Satan/Fedotenko....Grabovski/Kulemin.

This might work. Both are skilled and good two-way players.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:24 PM ET
Think of Satan/Fedotenko....Grabovski/Kulemin.

This might work. Both are skilled and good two-way players.

- Orpik44

i think theyre both pretty good. would like them both. but grabo is going to need to take a substantial pay cut and i dont see that happening.

if kulemin is dead set on playing with him, he may be the one missing out on an extra mil somewhere.

that being said, i would still really lovek kulemin on a cheap deal if possible. i understand he wont pot 30. thats fine.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:36 PM ET
i think theyre both pretty good. would like them both. but grabo is going to need to take a substantial pay cut and i dont see that happening.

if kulemin is dead set on playing with him, he may be the one missing out on an extra mil somewhere.

that being said, i would still really lovek kulemin on a cheap deal if possible. i understand he wont pot 30. thats fine.

- stayinthefnnet


That's my point. You're kind of tying your own hands financially if you insist on playing with a certain guy.....especially if you're not exactly a special player. I don't believe it frankly.

I would love to see Kulemin here too. He can slot in nicely on the 3rd line, but has the ability to move up if need be.
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:42 PM ET
My thoughts on the matter...

Ducks have cap space and are looking for a top 6 guy, Neal might be a fit. Look for the major piece of the return to be the tenth pick and draft an NHL ready forward - Nikolaj Ehlers comes to mind. Depending on fair value bring more assets into the equation.

Fluery to the Wild. This has been discussed a lot today. Again, try make the return revolve around the Wild's 18th picks. Again add the necessary trade pieces in as you see fit. Draft another Winger. By this point I'm hoping we have our 22nd pick for another winger or Demko. The way goalies project I think it's safe to say you can never have to many in the system.

The free agent signings are clear so take a look. If I had it my way Scuds is gone but that isn't too realistic. I would like Stempniak back but tough to fit in that line up.

Constructive criticism is welcome!

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Neal to Anaheim (10th pick: Nikolaj Ehlers and Matt Belesky OR Palmieri, anything else?), Fleury to the Wild for the 18 pick + whatever? (Draft another winger). Build through free agency. Try move Scuds for cheaper effective options.
FORWARDS
Beau Bennett ($0.900m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Ales Hemsky ($5.000m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.500m)
Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.500m) / Nikolaj Ehlers ($0.900m)
Matt Beleskey ($1.350m) / Marcel Goc ($2.000m) / Steve Bernier ($1.000m)
Craig Adams ($0.700m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Simon Despres ($1.500m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m) / Rob Scuderi ($3.375m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($3.000m)
Martin Brodeur ($2.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,100,833; BONUSES: $68,333
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $999,167
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
Per TIOPS...pens not actively shopping Neal but listening to inquires. have toldteams they aaren't interested in a futures deal for Neal

I guess that'snnot shocking but I want multiple contributers ( not a 1 for 1) and not to get older or more expensive. At any rate, let the Sharp talk continue...
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
It'd have to be a 2nd.
- HopintheCordoba


They don't have a second..that's why I went with the third.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
It's not like Grabo can't play wing.

I'd be all for bringing in Grabo/Kulemin.

Re-sign Goc and trade Sutter for a good piece+pick.

- Orpik44


Yep. Makes sense if u ship out Sutter. Too expensive for my blood.
Magicmanmalkin
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.25.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
Per TIOPS...pens not actively shopping Neal but listening to inquires. have toldteams they aaren't interested in a futures deal for Neal

I guess that'snnot shocking but I want multiple contributers ( not a 1 for 1) and not to get older or more expensive. At any rate, let the Sharp talk continue...

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Trust me, if the deal for Neal is there the Pens will make the trade.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
My thoughts on the matter...

Ducks have cap space and are looking for a top 6 guy, Neal might be a fit. Look for the major piece of the return to be the tenth pick and draft an NHL ready forward - Nikolaj Ehlers comes to mind. Depending on fair value bring more assets into the equation.

Fluery to the Wild. This has been discussed a lot today. Again, try make the return revolve around the Wild's 18th picks. Again add the necessary trade pieces in as you see fit. Draft another Winger. By this point I'm hoping we have our 22nd pick for another winger or Demko. The way goalies project I think it's safe to say you can never have to many in the system.

The free agent signings are clear so take a look. If I had it my way Scuds is gone but that isn't too realistic. I would like Stempniak back but tough to fit in that line up.

Constructive criticism is welcome!

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Neal to Anaheim (10th pick: Nikolaj Ehlers and Matt Belesky OR Palmieri, anything else?), Fleury to the Wild for the 18 pick + whatever? (Draft another winger). Build through free agency. Try move Scuds for cheaper effective options.
FORWARDS
Beau Bennett ($0.900m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Ales Hemsky ($5.000m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.500m)
Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.500m) / Nikolaj Ehlers ($0.900m)
Matt Beleskey ($1.350m) / Marcel Goc ($2.000m) / Steve Bernier ($1.000m)
Craig Adams ($0.700m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Simon Despres ($1.500m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m) / Rob Scuderi ($3.375m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($3.000m)
Martin Brodeur ($2.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,100,833; BONUSES: $68,333
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $999,167

- penguins-4-life


We get the 10th pick and I'm taking Perlini. Get into the 2nd round and I'm targeting Nejezchleb or possibly Lemieux if he falls. Regardless, I have a hard time thinking this happens. I'd go after Smith-Pelly or Etem as the player back.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
@pquattro89: Hearing BOS is shopping Eriksson. Also, #Pens may be working on something big which involves Fleury. NHL heating up.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 25 @ 11:04 PM ET
My thoughts on the matter...

Ducks have cap space and are looking for a top 6 guy, Neal might be a fit. Look for the major piece of the return to be the tenth pick and draft an NHL ready forward - Nikolaj Ehlers comes to mind. Depending on fair value bring more assets into the equation.

Fluery to the Wild. This has been discussed a lot today. Again, try make the return revolve around the Wild's 18th picks. Again add the necessary trade pieces in as you see fit. Draft another Winger. By this point I'm hoping we have our 22nd pick for anotheger or Demko. The way goalies project I think it's safe to say you can never have to many in the system.

The free agent signings are clear so take a look. If I had it my way Scuds is gone but that isn't too realistic. I would like Stempniak back but tough to fit in that line up.

Constructive criticism is welcome!

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Neal to Anaheim (10th pick: Nikolaj Ehlers and Matt Belesky OR Palmieri, anything else?), Fleury to the Wild for the 18 pick + whatever? (Draft another winger). Build through free agency. Try move Scuds for cheaper effective options.
FORWARDS
Beau Bennett ($0.900m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Ales Hemsky ($5.000m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.500m)
Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.500m) / Nikolaj Ehlers ($0.900m)
Matt Beleskey ($1.350m) / Marcel Goc ($2.000m) / Steve Bernier ($1.000m)
Craig Adams ($0.700m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Simon Despres ($1.500m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m) / Rob Scuderi ($3.375m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($3.000m)
Martin Brodeur ($2.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,100,833; BONUSES: $68,333
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $999,167

- penguins-4-life


I don't think Fleury gets younthe 18th overall. And not sure anyndraft pick will be starting right away. Like the Hemsky and Kulemin signings. Kulemin might be xheaper than that. Don't know enough about bernier or beleskey. So not bad, but I want more for Neal

(On mobile sry for poor typing)
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:12 PM ET
@pquattro89: Hearing BOS is shopping Eriksson. Also, #Pens may be working on something big which involves Fleury. NHL heating up.
- HopintheCordoba


I said it earlier, got a gut feeling the Pens are gonna be very active. Hope it works. Will be tough to see Flower gone if it happens.
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

Jun 25 @ 11:16 PM ET
I don't think Fleury gets younthe 18th overall. And not sure anyndraft pick will be starting right away. Like the Hemsky and Kulemin signings. Kulemin might be xheaper than that. Don't know enough about bernier or beleskey. So not bad, but I want more for Neal

(On mobile sry for poor typing)

- YouMeAndDupuis9


@HopintheCordoba and YouMeAndDupuis9.

Perlini has the size which is encouraging. I think him and a couple other guys have the potential to get some games under the belt (best case scenario of course). I'm not sure what Neal is totally worth to the Ducks so I didn't go overboard. If you looked at a return of Etem or Pelly you're getting what you asked for but that's likely getting too rich for the ducks.

Kulemin could be cheaper, I really don't know. He is a FA after all so he won't be cheap...whatever that means.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:18 PM ET
@pquattro89: Hearing BOS is shopping Eriksson. Also, #Pens may be working on something big which involves Fleury. NHL heating up.
- HopintheCordoba

NH wish list

Hemsky kulemin miller and 2/3rd pick

Round out top 6 creates better bottom 6 letting your play and a better goalie plus helps depth in wbs
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:25 PM ET
MAF+Neal+1st for Rinne+Hornquest+2nd?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 25 @ 11:26 PM ET
@HopintheCordoba and YouMeAndDupuis9.

Perlini has the size which is encouraging. I think him and a couple other guys have the potential to get some games under the belt (best case scenario of course). I'm not sure what Neal is totally worth to the Ducks so I didn't go overboard. If you looked at a return of Etem or Pelly you're getting what you asked for but that's likely getting too rich for the ducks.

Kulemin could be cheaper, I really don't know. He is a FA after all so he won't be cheap...whatever that means.

- penguins-4-life


Makes sense on Kule. These contracts have been pretty ridiculous so far.

I would do Neal for 1st + Etem or SP. Don't see that happening though. I posted earlier they aren't doing a Neal for futures deal so it mightbe a moot point. I llike theidea of getting yyounger but they got to play right away. Kulemin is an additional piece but will not rreplace Neal's production alone.

I would jump with joy if Fleury got us a first round pick...that'sthe best part of this roster haha.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:26 PM ET
To me, if you can get both Grabo and Kulemin at reasonable prices, that's fine with me.

Trade Sutter, maybe pick up an extra pick. Resign Goc.

Still would love Iginla if he cant iron out a deal with Boston. The guy still has it.

How about Leo Komarov? Guy is a good sandpaper annoying type guy to center your 4th line.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:31 PM ET
Imagine getting 9th pick from WPG for Fleury/22nd. 10th pick and Smith-Pelly or Etem from ANA for Neal. Draft Perlini & Virtanen.

You get 2 high picks that could both potentially play depending on how they look out of camp. You get a player that's ready now in Smith-Pelly or Etem and they're both cheap. Pick one and you get a good option. Then you bring in Reimer. Fill in whatever holes you want with FA options. Ton of cap space.
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