Does Alt still have to clear waivers to be sent down to the Phantoms? If he does, I really don't want him recalled to the Flyers unless they really need to or he gets some playing time. Recalling him just to sit him in the press box would really suck.
- FlyersSteve118

Alt is waiver exempt. I would only carry him on the roster if he earned a top 6 spot, if not, it's back to the Phantoms.

Lauridsen though, is not waiver exempt and I think he has a very good shot of at least filling that 7th dman spot.

We just saw what value Hartnell has. VL would bring back next to nothing and the Flyers would be eating some salary as well.

I think MacDonald's contract would be difficult to move too if the Flyers wanted to trade him.
- PLindbergh31

I guess we'll see what happens. Im not confident we can get anything for him unless we eat significant salary.

Nikitin just got 6+ and I don't even know who he is.
- mayorofangrytown

La Femme Nikitin.

Hey, Raffl was in the AHL and was on the top line after only a month or two.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm curious to see where Straka's development goes this year and next. 27 points in 60 games for his first AHL season ain't terrible. I feel like he and Alderson are two guys who, although its a long shot, could maybe turn out to be decent goal scorers. That's very ambitious, but we'll see.

I guess we'll see what happens. Im not confident we can get anything for him unless we eat significant salary.
- PhillySportsGuy

Well we could likely get Clarkson or Clowe, but that would probably not be wise.

I guess we'll see what happens. Im not confident we can get anything for him unless we eat significant salary.
- PhillySportsGuy

There are a lot more appealing Centers who are UFA's. I think the Flyers are stuck with VL.

Nikitin just got 6+ and I don't even know who he is.
- mayorofangrytown

He got 9 mill, 2 years. 4.5 per

Still way over-priced, but thats what EDM has to do to get even mediocre FA's

I'm curious to see where Straka's development goes this year and next. 27 points in 60 games for his first AHL season ain't terrible. I feel like he and Alderson are two guys who, although its a long shot, could maybe turn out to be decent goal scorers. That's very ambitious, but we'll see.
- mcefalu

For a guy who needs to succeed as a top 6 winger, it ain't that good either.

Alt is waiver exempt. I would only carry him on the roster if he earned a top 6 spot, if not, it's back to the Phantoms.

Lauridsen though, is not waiver exempt and I think he has a very good shot of at least filling that 7th dman spot.
- BiggE

Cool. So than Im all for what you posted. How does waiver exemption work exactly? Like x years in the AHL or X games in the NHL?

Alt is waiver exempt. I would only carry him on the roster if he earned a top 6 spot, if not, it's back to the Phantoms.

Lauridsen though, is not waiver exempt and I think he has a very good shot of at least filling that 7th dman spot.
- BiggE

Alt needs another season of pro-hockey. If a more defensive guy goes down, we call him up. If it's a puck-mover or a more offensive guy, call up Ghost. Those two are the only guys that should see cups of coffee in the NHL next year, save maybe Brandon Manning.

I'm actually ok with the idea of Manning or Lauridsen being our 7th D. I liked both of them in the limited minutes they played for Lavy, especially Manning.

Cool. So than Im all for what you posted. How does waiver exemption work exactly? Like x years in the AHL or X games in the NHL?
- FlyersSteve118

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No, I certainly do not. You don't ask a guy who controls his own destiny until you've done your due dilligence first.

So what, they ask Vinny how he feels about being traded first, which is essentially a "We don't want you here anymore"? Then what? Then you have a disgruntled player who WANTS to be moved?

Then what? What if you ask him that, and absolutely NOBODY is interested? What if he's so pissed off then you HAVE to trade him? Your then looking at acquiring peanuts for him, and likely eating 50% of his salary just to dump a guy who doesn't want to be here. And by peanuts, I mean probably another bad contract. Probably a guy nowhere near as good as Vinny.

No way do you ask him to waive first. Not to mention, it's been reported a few teams have expressed serious interest.
- mochoson

Who

I'm curious to see where Straka's development goes this year and next. 27 points in 60 games for his first AHL season ain't terrible. I feel like he and Alderson are two guys who, although its a long shot, could maybe turn out to be decent goal scorers. That's very ambitious, but we'll see.
- mcefalu

I think Straka has a legit chance at becoming a top-6 guy. I'll be stoked if Alderson ever even plays NHL minutes. Don't think he has the talent to be anything more than a bottom-6 checker.

Who
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't know that names were given? But supposedly Dallas was a team that at least called and inquired. I think Nashville was another one, which makes sense with Lava there.

I don't think VL deserves the "very good" label anymore.. good might even be a stretch. Mediocre is possibly most accurate. Add in the fact that he's locked in for a lot of years and a lot of money with the usual Homer NMC and you can see why it could be hard to move him.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Mediocre players don't score 20 goals in the NHL.

I think Nashville was another one, which makes sense with Lava there.
- mochoson

Somebody needs to explain to me why that makes sense, because the whole "well, he helped recruited Vinny" argument seems flimsy. Lavi's system is all about skating and pressure... Poile has always had a preference for really good skaters... Vinny doesn't seem to fit either of those.

I guess we'll see what happens. Im not confident we can get anything for him unless we eat significant salary.
- PhillySportsGuy

That's why I like a deal with Florida. You could swap Viny for Fleishmann. Flieshmann can play wing on 1st or second line. Money is a match but Flieshmann just has one year left. I think that might be the type of deal that can work. Just using it as an example. Something like Vinny to MTL for Briere. ! year left and money is about the same.

Mediocre players don't score 20 goals in the NHL.
- MBFlyerfan

......ehhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't go that far.

Cool. So than Im all for what you posted. How does waiver exemption work exactly? Like x years in the AHL or X games in the NHL?
- FlyersSteve118

I believe it is a combo of both.

He got 9 mill, 2 years. 4.5 per

Still way over-priced, but thats what EDM has to do to get even mediocre FA's
- mochoson

Oh, I thought I read 12 something. Well my recall isn't what it used to be. He's the highest paid D on the Oilers. What would they have paid Andrew MacDonald if he was an RFA?

Somebody needs to explain to me why that makes sense, because the whole "well, he helped recruited Vinny" argument seems flimsy. Lavi's system is all about skating and pressure... Poile has always had a preference for really good skaters... Vinny doesn't seem to fit either of those.
- Tomahawk

It works if he has wingers that can move. Also they need some scoring. I sometimes don't know what to think. i mean Gomez got the rangers McDonough so I guess you never know.

Somebody needs to explain to me why that makes sense, because the whole "well, he helped recruited Vinny" argument seems flimsy. Lavi's system is all about skating and pressure... Poile has always had a preference for really good skaters... Vinny doesn't seem to fit either of those.
- Tomahawk

But Poile has come out and said the team wants to strengthen the forwards and add offensive fire power, and that they have a gluttony of D and goalies to acquire those players.

Vinny certainly fits the bill as a guy who provides offensive fire power. If he's in shape and healthy, you can deal with him being one of the slower guys on your team. Nashville is already a pretty quick team.

Also, as long as he's not playing wing, his speed isn't really a HUGE factor. Technically, he should be the third forward in the zone in most instances anyway.

Oh, I thought I read 12 something. Well my recall isn't what it used to be. He's the highest paid D on the Oilers. What would they have paid Andrew MacDonald if he was an RFA?
- mayorofangrytown

Probably a similar contract, since it would likely take an overpayment to get him to come there.

Somebody needs to explain to me why that makes sense, because the whole "well, he helped recruited Vinny" argument seems flimsy. Lavi's system is all about skating and pressure... Poile has always had a preference for really good skaters... Vinny doesn't seem to fit either of those.
- Tomahawk

If he sells two tickets in Nashville it makes sense. Who do they have up front? If they can get Vinny for a pick and pay him 3 mil that might interest them. No?

But Poile has come out and said the team wants to strengthen the forwards and add offensive fire power, and that they have a gluttony of D and goalies to acquire those players.

Vinny certainly fits the bill as a guy who provides offensive fire power. If he's in shape and healthy, you can deal with him being one of the slower guys on your team. Nashville is already a pretty quick team.

Also, as long as he's not playing wing, his speed isn't really a HUGE factor. Technically, he should be the third forward in the zone in most instances anyway.
- mochoson

And why wouldn't they just go after Brad Richards and sign him to a better contract than Vinny's?