I'm just surprised Leino isn't bought out yet. The compliance buyouts are pretty much a get our of jail free card. I'm now even more surprised I had to take the long route to explain something that didn't really need an explanation to begin with.
- SuperSchennBros

Buffalo is apparently trying to "sell" their buyouts. I'd imagine Leino will get bought out asap should they not sell the CBOs

I'm just surprised Leino isn't bought out yet. The compliance buyouts are pretty much a get our of jail free card. I'm now even more surprised I had to take the long route to explain something that didn't really need an explanation to begin with.
- SuperSchennBros

He was bought out last week.

Nitkin's cap hit was certainly higher then expected. However, with him only signing two years, if he plays well (he should get plenty of minutes in Edmonton), he'll still be only around 29 and could cash on another multi-year over $5 million.

Edmonton's going to have to overpay for free agents to play there. They're protected with the term, so it was a good move on their part.

Niskanen is going to get close to $6 million/yr, IMO.
- ravishingone

definitely agree on all accounts.

Buffalo is apparently trying to "sell" their buyouts. I'd imagine Leino will get bought out asap should they not sell the CBOs
- hereticpride

I read that some teams are trying to do this. I guess I'm waiting for the first shoe to drop to see if it's possible.

sign niskanen and vanek and call it an off season
- 2Real

thats like 13 mil a year right there

The one thing that seems clear to me is that Hextall has a vision and he's going to go for it, his way. People can shred his moves, but if he thinks it's a fit, he's going for it.
- Jsaquella

Benoit Pouliot is who he should target. Probably 2.5M on 2-3 year deal. Could play on Giroux's line. I think he would be a great pick up, and of course.... We must upgrade the D!!

Benoit Pouliot is who he should target. Probably 2.5M on 2-3 year deal. Could play on Giroux's line. I think he would be a great pick up, and of course.... We must upgrade the D!!
- 3flyerkids

I honestly wouldn't do much up front now. I'd probably slide Schenn to LW, move Couturier to 2C and Read to LW on 1st or 2nd line.

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I read that some teams are trying to do this. I guess I'm waiting for the first shoe to drop to see if it's possible.
- SuperSchennBros

It is apparently allowed. I'm not so sure we'll see a team go that route though.

I'm just surprised Leino isn't bought out yet. The compliance buyouts are pretty much a get our of jail free card. I'm now even more surprised I had to take the long route to explain something that didn't really need an explanation to begin with.
- SuperSchennBros

....I know what CBOs are. I don't understand what is happening.

This is what is now going to happen:

1. I'm going to say something like You said "are they scraping cash together", to which I responded by saying "They have a CBO, so they can just buy him out with no problems". I'm going to do this to basically rehash what happened, but also defend myself since you seemed to be a little angry at me and/or taking a passive aggressive approach here with the second part of your comment, in bold.

2. You also are probably a little confused with what is going on

3. We'll both be arguing with each other, simply because we both know exactly what is happening, but actually don't. Let me explain: we're both aware that a) Leino has already been CBOd; b) we both know what a CBO is and how it works; and c) we both realize I missed a joke

So, let's not do that, ok? Sorry I missed your joke

Good man.

They actually made the clang noise with an anvil. Mal Evans hit it.

I'm full of utterly useless Beatles knowledge.
- Giroux_Is_God

I saw the Cirque d Soleil Beatles show "Love" in Vegas this year
So great
Highly recommended

I honestly wouldn't do much up front now. I'd probably slide Schenn to LW, move Couturier to 2C and Read to LW on 1st or 2nd line.

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- Jsaquella

I agree. Whether or not we're better or worse, we'll find out soon enough. I think we look worse. However, I am intrigued and I have the same lines penciled in.

Buffalo is apparently trying to "sell" their buyouts. I'd imagine Leino will get bought out asap should they not sell the CBOs
- hereticpride

He was already bought out.

Also, I'm not expert, but I'd imagine "selling" buyouts is illegal as illegal can be

I was on a Band listening spree when Levon died last year...rewatched the Last Waltz, too
- Jsaquella

I could watch that once a week
My favorite music movie ever

I saw the Cirque d Soleil Beatles show "Love" in Vegas this year
So great
Highly recommended
- Marc D

I have the soundtrack. It is very interesting. George Martin's son worked on it, I believe with his dad (and others, of course).

That takes so much work.

Haven't seen the show...but I've seen other Cirque du Soleil shows before and they're nuts

I honestly wouldn't do much up front now. I'd probably slide Schenn to LW, move Couturier to 2C and Read to LW on 1st or 2nd line.

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- Jsaquella

i know people will say oh the flyers could use another top 6 scoring winger. but its all relative. so could any team. i dont think the flyers will hurt in the scoring department. i feel as though hexy is going to be fairly quiet from here on out. if he could move vinny, im sure he would. other than that, i dont see anything major. i dont see him hamstringing himself with a big deal, and i dont see him moving the pieces necessary to get that young stud defender.

He was already bought out.

Also, I'm not expert, but I'd imagine "selling" buyouts is illegal as illegal can be
- Giroux_Is_God

There was a case last year, where TB would have traded Vinny to Toronto, had the Leafs buy him out and then re-sign him that was nixed. However, it's apparently legal to trade a player to another team and have them use a CBO. He just can't re-sign with old team

I could watch that once a week
My favorite music movie ever
- Marc D

The Wall thoughhhhhhhhhhh

All the symbolism and themes in that movie/album are (frank)ing awesome to dig into and analyze

....I know what CBOs are. I don't understand what is happening.

This is what is now going to happen:

1. I'm going to say something like You said "are they scraping cash together", to which I responded by saying "They have a CBO, so they can just buy him out with no problems". I'm going to do this to basically rehash what happened, but also defend myself since you seemed to be a little angry at me and/or taking a passive aggressive approach here with the second part of your comment, in bold.

2. You also are probably a little confused with what is going on

3. We'll both be arguing with each other, simply because we both know exactly what is happening, but actually don't. Let me explain: we're both aware that a) Leino has already been CBOd; b) we both know what a CBO is and how it works; and c) we both realize I missed a joke

So, let's not do that, ok? Sorry I missed your joke
- Giroux_Is_God

It's an open forum. You're free to respond to all my messages, as you already do. However, I wish you'd ignore me completely because I cannot tell when you're being a jerk or not.

He was already bought out.

Also, I'm not expert, but I'd imagine "selling" buyouts is illegal as illegal can be
- Giroux_Is_God

i most certainly object.

I honestly wouldn't do much up front now. I'd probably slide Schenn to LW, move Couturier to 2C and Read to LW on 1st or 2nd line.

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- Jsaquella

I would like some speed with G to replace Hartnell.
You never know 10 could be moved to improve the blueline!
I would also look into Brian Boyle ..big body who can play responsibly

There was a case last year, where TB would have traded Vinny to Toronto, had the Leafs buy him out and then re-sign him that was nixed. However, it's apparently legal to trade a player to another team and have them use a CBO. He just can't re-sign with old team
- Jsaquella

If they want Lecavalier back now, I don't see how they couldn't get him back now for cheap.

It's an open forum. You're free to respond to all my messages, as you already do. However, I wish you'd ignore me completely because I cannot tell when you're being a jerk or not.
- SuperSchennBros

....but see I don't respond to all your messages. That's the thing.

Also, I like to keep people guessing. It's a fun time.

i know people will say oh the flyers could use another top 6 scoring winger. but its all relative. so could any team. i dont think the flyers will hurt in the scoring department. i feel as though hexy is going to be fairly quiet from here on out. if he could move vinny, im sure he would. other than that, i dont see anything major. i dont see him hamstringing himself with a big deal, and i dont see him moving the pieces necessary to get that young stud defender.
- stayinthefnnet

Highly depends what happens with the other centers on market. Spezza & Kesler may face a choice between expanding their lists or staying in Ottawa & Vancouver. Thornton has been saying he wants to stay in San Jose. Stastny will cost a ton. Who knows what Richards will take as a UFA after his CBO?

If a team gung ho for Spezza or Richards can't seal the deal, maybe they have interest in Vinny?

i most certainly object.
- stayinthefnnet

Object tooooooo0oo0ooooo0oooooooooo....... the idea of selling buyouts?

I would like some speed with G to replace Hartnell.
You never know 10 could be moved to improve the blueline!
I would also look into Brian Boyle ..big body who can play responsibly
- 3flyerkids

Boyle wants to play a bigger (i.e. top 9) role. He's also probably looking to get a nice raise.I'm thinking a Dominic Moore type.