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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:33 PM ET
wasnt around so i might have missed it, but reaction to nitkanen's deal? im sure niskanen was happy
- stayinthefnnet


I'm sure his agent has sent a fruit basket to Holmgren's house in Avalon to thank him for setting the market so well for free agents.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:35 PM ET
I think Mitchell can make a better first pass out of the defensive zone then Grossmann. Not really surprised Fayne is drawing that type of interest. It looks like they would be better off finding this year's Tom Gilbert.
- ravishingone


He's probably slightly better, but not enough for me to seriously consider it an upgrade. I think he's also greatly helped by the Kings overall dedication to possession, puck support and two way play
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:37 PM ET
I'm sure his agent has sent a fruit basket to Holmgren's house in Avalon to thank him for setting the market so well for free agents.
- Jsaquella


Hopefully we got in before the Market went gonzo.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:42 PM ET
He's probably slightly better, but not enough for me to seriously consider it an upgrade. I think he's also greatly helped by the Kings overall dedication to possession, puck support and two way play
- Jsaquella


Maybe the direction is to go after a Quincey type d-man (even a Paul Ranger). Someone who has played well in the past, but has been inconsistent the last couple of years. I would keep tabs and seeing how Pitkanen is rehabbing from his heel injury.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
Hopefully we got in before the Market went gonzo.
- jstross


So far it's been a bit nuts. Nikitin got a nice raise, but short term. Fayne seems to have drawn interest and is speculated to get $3mm or more. So far, Hainsey is the one deal that I think is a good one for the team. Three years at $2.85mm for a good 4/5 guy.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
sign niskanen and vanek and call it an off season
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
a gig vs crims rivalry, eh? That'll keep things fresh.
- BulliesPhan87

eye h8 hymn
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
Maybe the direction is to go after a Quincey type d-man (even a Paul Ranger). Someone who has played well in the past, but has been inconsistent the last couple of years. I would keep tabs and seeing how Pitkanen is rehabbing from his heel injury.
- ravishingone


Quincey strikes me as kind of a Coburn type guy. Not in terms of play or style, but he's a guy that people expect more out of, and he struggles with consistency. I'd be open to him at right price, for sure.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
So far it's been a bit nuts. Nikitin got a nice raise, but short term. Fayne seems to have drawn interest and is speculated to get $3mm or more. So far, Hainsey is the one deal that I think is a good one for the team. Three years at $2.85mm for a good 4/5 guy.
- Jsaquella


Or Mez for much cheaper.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
I put Embiid going #6 to the Celtics anyway.
- PhillySportsGuy

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
Meltzer blog may be late tomorrow because of flight
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:48 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


If that happens, Crims will be on suicide watch
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
Or Mez for much cheaper.
- aflyerpower8


Rather have Hainsey. Meszaros has lost a few steps with the injuries.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
Meltzer blog may be late tomorrow because of flight
- PhillySportsGuy

I forgive him.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
Quincey strikes me as kind of a Coburn type guy. Not in terms of play or style, but he's a guy that people expect more out of, and he struggles with consistency. I'd be open to him at right price, for sure.
- Jsaquella


IMO, those are the type of d-man that you're not going to have to severely over pay to acquire. If Hexy could sign Quincey on a Hainsey type deal, I think it would be worth the gamble. Obviously, Pitkanen is coming back from a very serious injury, so he would be cheap.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:51 PM ET
IMO, those are the type of d-man that you're not going to have to severely over pay to acquire. If Hexy could sign Quincey on a Hainsey type deal, I think it would be worth the gamble. Obviously, Pitkanen is coming back from a very serious injury, so he would be cheap.
- ravishingone


I think it'd take more than hainsey got, but a 2 or 3 years deal at $4mm or so is not a bad roll of the dice on Quincey.

I heard Pitkanen is still a ways away from playing again, if ever.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:52 PM ET
Rather have Hainsey. Meszaros has lost a few steps with the injuries.
- Jsaquella


I guess I prefer the devil I know. Especially when the devil I don't know has not been resigned by Winnipeg and Carolina who are not overflowing with defense depth and will cost more money and term.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:54 PM ET
I guess I prefer the devil I know. Especially when the devil I don't know has not been resigned by Winnipeg and Carolina who are not overflowing with defense depth and will cost more money and term.
- aflyerpower8


Carolin just re-signed him. 3 Years, $2.85mm cap hit
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:55 PM ET
Carolin just re-signed him. 3 Years, $2.85mm cap hit
- Jsaquella


Whoops, totally misread what you said earlier. My bad. That does seem like a fair deal.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:55 PM ET
So far it's been a bit nuts. Nikitin got a nice raise, but short term. Fayne seems to have drawn interest and is speculated to get $3mm or more. So far, Hainsey is the one deal that I think is a good one for the team. Three years at $2.85mm for a good 4/5 guy.
- Jsaquella


I do wish the Macdonald deal was a little lower AAV and years, but he's a good piece. with Timonen, Schenn, Coburn and Grossman coming off the books soon it actually provides some flexibility.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:55 PM ET
I think it'd take more than hainsey got, but a 2 or 3 years deal at $4mm or so is not a bad roll of the dice on Quincey.

I heard Pitkanen is still a ways away from playing again, if ever.

- Jsaquella


Basically, signing Quincey to Mez's cap hit. Could make L. Schenn expendable? Considering Luke's cap hit and term, he could probably get the most return on a trade (considering Coburn to pretty much be a lock on the team)
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:56 PM ET
Carolin just re-signed him. 3 Years, $2.85mm cap hit
- Jsaquella

Who's she?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:56 PM ET
Carolin just re-signed him. 3 Years, $2.85mm cap hit
- Jsaquella

Who's she?

EDIT: So funny it was posted twice. You're (frank)ing welcome.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
he was impossible to not respect. was a shame/weird to see him moved like he was
- stayinthefnnet

It's like the Flyers (frank)ed with gagne twice
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
Let the butthurt flow through him
- Giroux_Is_God

that's a ban-able word
watch it
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