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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:32 PM ET
Yep, everyone looses.
- VanHockeyGuy

Actually the loser will Vancouver, yet again.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
No. "Cool, calm, and collected" along with "bumholes and elbows" and "got it?" were his favorite sayings...
- EKolb13

Well I tried to not use the jargon when I got out, but bumholes came out to something different in the Marines.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
For those who give a rats ass, Eddie O was just the Game here in Chicago and had this to say.

-is not sold the Hawks won't trade Sharp
-thinks if Hawks get a legitimate #2C, Toews will be a top 5 scorer in the league
-says Saad is untouchable but would listen on TT if the return was right.
-not sold that Leddy will be a Blackhawk come opening night.
-wouldn't even attempt to sign Brad Richards, says he's too slow to play in the West.

- dan9189


After Sharps agent went balistic...folks are still betting that StanBow swings a trade with Sharp and somehow gets Sharps permission around his NMC/NTC.

http://www.chicagotribune...-20140626,0,3076292.story


A whole lotta BS being pumped on this. Somebody(s) are dead wrong...and I have my convictions who they are....


fully expect sharpie to be with his sharpie signing autographs at the mid July convention
BreakoutHockey
Location: Chicago area, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
my take is if we sigh both to 10+ million a year contracts we can look back at 2010 and 2013 as the only cups will win with Toews and Kane as Stan will be handcuffed and we will become like the penguins and loss because of lack of depth.
- SaskHawkFan


So...we will have a better chance of winning the Cup if we play hardball and don't sign Kane and Toews?

NHL revenues are skyrocketing. The cap will skyrocket in accordance. This is the price of doing business.

BreakoutHockey
Location: Chicago area, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:35 PM ET
Hey what was up with Campbell going to the Cubs with Sharp last night? I mean it's not like Campbell lives in Chicago right? Could it be to convince him to come to Florida if a trade is in place and has to waive whatever trade clause he might have?

3 way deal where we get Sharp and maybe a couple other pieces or later 1st round pick, Vancouver gets the 1st overall, and you get Kesler?

- BravePackCats27


Campbell lives in Chicago.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:37 PM ET
So...we will have a better chance of winning the Cup if we play hardball and don't sign Kane and Toews?

NHL revenues are skyrocketing. The cap will skyrocket in accordance. This is the price of doing business.

- BreakoutHockey

This is the business we've chosen.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:39 PM ET
After Sharps agent went balistic...folks are still betting that StanBow swings a trade with Sharp and somehow gets Sharps permission around his NMC/NTC.

http://www.chicagotribune...-20140626,0,3076292.story


A whole lotta BS being pumped on this. Somebody(s) are dead wrong...and I have my convictions who they are....


fully expect sharpie to be with his sharpie signing autographs at the mid July convention

- bogiedoc


Do you mean suspicions?

NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
Hey what was up with Campbell going to the Cubs with Sharp last night? I mean it's not like Campbell lives in Chicago right? Could it be to convince him to come to Florida if a trade is in place and has to waive whatever trade clause he might have?

3 way deal where we get Sharp and maybe a couple other pieces or later 1st round pick, Vancouver gets the 1st overall, and you get Kesler?

- BravePackCats27

Last I heard, Campbell still lived here in the off season.

Edit: Apparently everyone beat me to this fact.
Cup-Bearer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
I'm gonna guess it was just a Cubs game.
- tcmoritz


Possible conversation at game last night
PS: Brutal year with FL this year?
BC: Just like the Cubs
PS:If PK and JT make 12 million each the Hawks will have the same chance as the Cubs to win it all.
BC:OK come to FL and bring Seebs
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
No. "Cool, calm, and collected" along with "bumholes and elbows" and "got it?" were his favorite sayings...
- EKolb13


Your Dad knows Elbows?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Your Dad knows Elbows?
- HawkintheD


SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:58 PM ET
Possible conversation at game last night
PS: Brutal year with FL this year?
BC: Just like the Cubs
PS:If PK and JT make 12 million each the Hawks will have the same chance as the Cubs to win it all.

BC:OK come to FL and bring Seebs

- Cup-Bearer



how so very true, say hello to many a first round exit, and toews and kane playing with the likes of peter regina
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:59 PM ET
Your Dad knows Elbows?
- HawkintheD

PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:00 PM ET
how so very true, say hello to many a first round exit, and toews and kane playing with the likes of peter regina
- SaskHawkFan



I think that's a little dramatic.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
I think that's a little dramatic.
- PhilMeister89


really 24 million of your cap or 1/3 going to 2 players. how do you fill a roster that can win with no cap space?
SUDA88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
29 hours until the draft! Anyone think Bowman hasn't done a thing or even gotten out of bed today?
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
really 24 million of your cap or 1/3 going to 2 players. how do you fill a roster that can win with no cap space?
- SaskHawkFan


Make 88 and 19 go back and play defense on their off shifts?
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
really 24 million of your cap or 1/3 going to 2 players. how do you fill a roster that can win with no cap space?
- SaskHawkFan


Youth built around a strong foundation that already exists.
bwarner929
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.05.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:05 PM ET


Realistically Stan has two options:

1. Give Kane and Toews what they want and move other players to remain cap compliant if necessary; or

2. Sign one of Kane or Toews and trade the other.

In my opinion there is no choice, Stan has to go with option #1. Even if Stan signs them for $12 million it's not like the deal is going be a killer for all 8 years. Maybe it hurts for the first couple of years, but that its. Next year they are still making $6.3 million, so the first year of their new contract the cap will likely be around $75 million (or so it's been estiamted).

- DarthKane


Agree that Option #1 is the only real option but the other variable is the length of the deal. They wouldn't HAVE to go the max 8 year deal. They could meet in the middle to give both sides some flexibility. Not sure why they would but it's an option.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
Youth built around a strong foundation that already exists.
- PhilMeister89


2015-2016 if they get 12 million each with the players signed we have already we would have 8.9 million to fill 11 roster spots, need some damn good and cheap youth to do that and win.
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:06 PM ET
Well if Toews and Kane will make around 20-24 million in a year after next season we know that Kesler won´t be playing in Chicago. And Teräväinen with ~0,9 caphit is looking much better option for now and in the near future. What will be Brandon Saad´s next caphit? Better sign him now too to Leddy type of bridge deal if he continues to play like this years playoffs next season also. Sharp will be gone, sooner or later. Spezza could work for a year..maybe Senators could retain some of his salary or something?

Amateur scouting, drafting and player development are keys to success in cap era.
Hawkster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec , QC
Joined: 06.13.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:07 PM ET

JJ,

Time for a new blog.....this one is stale.
Hopefully this post will not get deleted
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
29 hours until the draft! Anyone think Bowman hasn't done a thing or even gotten out of bed today?
- SUDA88




Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:08 PM ET
JJ,

Time for a new blog.....this one is stale.
Hopefully this post will not get deleted

- Hawkster

TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
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