Kesler prefers Chi to Anaheim though.
- TheCalSen

Big Wooppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!

Kesler has more then one team on his list

Sharp plus what gets the #1 overall from Uncle Dale?
- FourFeathers773

So Sharp is going to waive his NMC and modified NTC to go to a bottom dwelling rebuilding team in Florida???

He's won two Cups and he's an elder statesman. FL might agree with him. Sure, why not?

How many times will you hear the 'There's no income tax' argument if Sharp is dealt to Florida?

Hey, your team sucks major ballz...but you don't have to pay income tax.

Al,

Do you feel that there are many eastern conference teams not on his no trade list? I could/probably be wrong, but I thought one of the first parameters were a western conference team?
- hawkfan79

From what i understand, his preference is playing for a top contender; Chicago,Anaheim, Pittsburgh and even St Louis has been mentioned.

Or, somewhere close to home; Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota(?), Columbus (Played minor hockey there,although he apparently rejected a potential move at the draft)

Ladies and gentlemen please welcome a bitter Canucks fan!
- golfbard

But that could be thousands upon thousands of welcomes! Also, bring marshmallows and fire extinguishers.

News flash Nucks fans.

Gillis left you with one of the 2-3 worst prospect chains in hockey. Benning will be looking for depth and not just quality. If he pulls in 2-3 prospects instead of TT it is because he wants them and it makes sense.

I love the fact the Hawks are drawing a line at not only Saad but Teraveunen. That doesn't mean it can't move.

Also, if the Hawks end up moving a package of picks and prospects to the Nucks instead of TT (assuming Sharp is gone) the organization can afford it. With the free agent signings of TVR and Carey the depth of this prospect chain is damn good at the moment.

I just hope Stan can get them to take Leblaahhh as a throw in.

So Sharp is going to waive his NMC and modified NTC to go to a bottom dwelling rebuilding team in Florida???


- bogiedoc

Why Not! He has been on vacation for over six months plus he will probably become the Captain. Thee years in sun is a lot better than a stint in Thunder Bay country. Hey!

Lebrun:

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n.....ading-the-pack-for-kesl

No Saad (obviously) no TT = No deal.
And no we don't need/want sharp.


The Ducks are going to get him, then eliminate you boys come next playoffs...
- Whiskey-Tango

Do not be so giddy (if you are) over your prognostication.

It is a battle of will. Will vanc get a better offer minutes before the draft? Will a trade happen after the draft, meaning that Anaheim in particular has to reconstruct their offer? If Linden is steadfastly demanding a too prospect, this is probably the major sticking point. The draft choices are hogwash and Linden knows that draft choices are merely an enticement whereas his suitor prefers to send as nice a draft choice(s) and then give some other prospect instead of the prize Linden prefers.

I see a sticking point in Kesler dies not want to go to Anaheim and Bowman dies not want to move his most cherished prospect- Teravainen.

I am guessing that Vanc will not get a #1 2015 & TT but maybeTt plus the #1 2014. I wonder if Bickel or Shaw or McNeull could replace TT in either Bowman or Linden's offer? Would you accept one of this as a substitute? Because just maybe it could cone down to Chg or nothing at this time!

For everyone comparing the Kesler situation to Iginla and Luongo just know:

Kesler has given a list of at least 6 teams. So its not just 1 team and the Canucks hands are tied.

It sounds like there are a couple of teams that actually want Kesler as opposed to Luongo.

Kesler has a cap friendly contract of 5 mil for the next 2 years.

Kesler has requested a trade which might hurt his value a little bit, but the Canucks are not painted into a corner and they will have a couple of options come Friday.

For everyone comparing the Kesler situation to Iginla and Luongo just know:

Kesler has given a list of at least 6 teams. So its not just 1 team and the Canucks hands are tied.

It sounds like there are a couple of teams that actually want Kesler as opposed to Luongo.

Kesler has a cap friendly contract of 5 mil for the next 2 years.

Kesler has requested a trade which might hurt his value a little bit, but the Canucks are not painted into a corner and they will have a couple of options come Friday.
- fiveandagame

Its not a modified NTC buddy, he can pretty much hand pick his team and refuse to report if he doesnt get his way or reject the trade

Vancouver doesn't really have that much leverage because of Kesler's NTC.
- dan9189

If it's two separate deals and Kesler comes here in one and Sharp goes the other way in another, what are you losing?

I like Sharp but he's a bit older than Kesler, we need a center. If they can get Kesler and McClement for 4C sign me up depending on what goes the other way for Kesler; obviously not Saad.

Can you imagine the mismatches this presents for other teams with Toews 1C and Kesler 2C.

I'd like to not see TT in the deal but he fell in our laps in the draft and you can flip him for a guy who potentially helps you win now, do it!

As TC said earlier too, Sharp could be flipped for youth to make up for the loss of TT or whomever.
- HawkintheD

Agree with you 100%. Organizations cannot afford this sort of loyalty under a hard cap. We all love what Sharp has brought here but keeping him presents a cost - be it opportunity cost or subtraction of other players for space.

If Sharp goes for prospects, picks and cap space that facilitates Kesler or another C probably the right move. You have to evaluate all the pieces after it is done.

For all the long time faithful. Isn't it awesome speculating on trades with a Blackhawks team that actually has a solid number of prospects.

80s and 90s a trade like the ones being discussed would raid their system and leave with nothing for years... Or where Vancouver is now.

Who even said it was in the FO anyways?
- Mo_Dangles

Seabs has been mentioned by some as a candidate to be moved. His cap hit is large, but the term makes it very movable.

Seabs is not untouchable and the FO would certainly listen to offers, so the idea of moving him is not unthinkable.

All I've ever said is that trading Seabs is a possibility...certainly not impossible.

Would it happen this offseason? Not likely, but who knows for sure...

FourFeathers Did you read my post? He has already given a list of 6 teams. That could be expanded depending on the situation.

Its not a modified NTC buddy, he can pretty much hand pick his team and refuse to report if he doesnt get his way or reject the trade
- FourFeathers773

How do we trade him then, especially to a contender as asked? what becomes of his league wide value and reputation among the NHL? If he does that for the remaining two years of his contract what will his next contract offer look like as a UFA?

It is in no way shape or form a similar situation to Lou.
If Kesler wants out as demanded, he has to be flexible or risk staying with the team.

News flash Nucks fans.

Gillis left you with one of the 2-3 worst prospect chains in hockey. Benning will be looking for depth and not just quality. If he pulls in 2-3 prospects instead of TT it is because he wants them and it makes sense.
- tredbrta

Not that you care but it wasn't Gillis alone that created our terrible prospect pool. It was a combination of Burke, Nonis, and Gillis.

Your assumptions on Benning's thoughts are wrong.

How do we trade him then, especially to a contender as asked? what becomes of his league wide value and reputation among the NHL? If he does that for the remaining two years of his contract what will his next contract offer look like as a UFA?

It is in no way shape or form a similar situation to Lou.
If Kesler wants out as demanded, he has to be flexible or risk staying with the team.
- Whiskey-Tango

or VAN has to take a substandard return

I know it pains you VAN faithful to consider that option, buts its a very real possibility, and thats the pains of handing out full NTCs

It is in no way shape or form a similar situation to Lou.
If Kesler wants out as demanded, he has to be flexible or risk staying with the team.
- Whiskey-Tango

Agreed.

or VAN has to take a substandard return

I know it pains you VAN faithful to consider that option, buts its a very real possibility, and thats the pains of handing out full NTCs
- FourFeathers773

The only way that happens is if the 6 teams that Kesler has given to waive his NTC too all low ball Benning and no team is willing to up their offer.

I don't think the Canucks will get a kings ransom but I think Benning can get a bidding war to a point where he doesn't have to take a substandard return.

or VAN has to take a substandard return

I know it pains you VAN faithful to consider that option, buts its a very real possibility, and thats the pains of handing out full NTCs
- FourFeathers773

6 team list.
Luckily for us, the majority of which are all serious contenders.
With that in mind, Kesler represents the perfect need, upgrade and value that any contender could use, thus a bidding war ensues.

- bloatedmosquito

Right now, the reported list of suitors is Chicago and Anaheim. That means Benning is dealing with Bob Murray and Stan Bowman.

Do you believe that is leverage?

If some teams on Kesler's list reenter the talks (it is not a race or bidding war) then Benning's leverage increases. Right now, Benning has less leverage than Gillis had with Schneider... and look at what that got you.

Right now, the reported list of suitors is Chicago and Anaheim. That means Benning is dealing with Bob Murray and Stan Bowman.

Do you believe that is leverage?

If some teams on Kesler's list reenter the talks (it is not a race or bidding war) then Benning's leverage increases. Right now, Benning has less leverage than Gillis had with Schneider... and look at what that got you.
- tredbrta

Pittsburgh is a serious player in any Kesler talk.
Blues have been mentioned as well.

Right now, the reported list of suitors is Chicago and Anaheim. That means Benning is dealing with Bob Murray and Stan Bowman.

Do you believe that is leverage?

If some teams on Kesler's list reenter the talks (it is not a race or bidding war) then Benning's leverage increases. Right now, Benning has less leverage than Gillis had with Schneider... and look at what that got you.
- tredbrta

There are also reports of Pittsburgh and St. Louis. I'm not sure if St. Louis is one of the 6 teams but I have read they are very interested.

Gillis was a idiot. Look at his trade record.

The only way that happens is if the 6 teams that Kesler has given to waive his NTC too all low ball Benning and no team is willing to up their offer.

I don't think the Canucks will get a kings ransom but I think Benning can get a bidding war to a point where he doesn't have to take a substandard return.
- fiveandagame

Iginla gave a list, too, and then rejected a trade to one of them - Boston. The list may not mean crap.

Iginla gave a list, too, and then rejected a trade to one of them - Boston. The list may not mean crap.
- mohel

Iginla was pending UFA, he had all of the leverage.