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Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
2 weeks? 5 games? Great sample size.
He's done nothing in North America. He's a decent prospect, but I don't think he's good enough to build a package for Kesler around.

- hankthetank


Well that is why TT is usually coupled with Leddy.
Hawksfan37
Joined: 05.11.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
Exactly and if Kane really wants to play with Kesler he can sign with the Ducks after next year.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Yep, that's gonna happen.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
THIS trading sharp is a horrible mistake if the goal is to obtain Kesler not even close to worth it.

Although if Sharp is to be traded I got dibs on betting Seabrook gets his "A"

- Mo_Dangles

What I really hope is we have to trade some youth for Kesler and then trade sharp to get back some really good youth we lost. So we add a great 2c in kesler plus some solid youth to help now and the future. The youth we get back may not put up as many points as TT but maybe make us a better all around team
Mo_Dangles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 03.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
Seabrook gets the A.

No doubt

- mrpaulish


I already called dibs!!!
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
Well that is why TT is usually coupled with Leddy.
- Bjm84


I think Anaheim will offer a much better package. They've got the right type of players/prospects and picks.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
Silly .


Kesler gets a bad wrap in Canada because he said he 'Hates them" when referring to Team Canada.

Keslerhas all the offensive ability that Spezza has plus is superior on D .

It just makes too much sense to me that :

Kesler Blackhawks
Spezza Ducks
Stasny Blues

- mrpaulish


My guess is Stastny stays in Colorado.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
Don't get the love affair with TT as apart from one decent WJC showing, he hasn't shown much else. Not to mention the fact that he is extremely inexperienced at playing the North American game.

?

- Whiskey-Tango



The Benning/Linden regime needs some quick wins and the best way to get that is dealing Kesler. The Canucks need to market/push the re-build, if you're not winning then you should be re-building. Both scenarios can be marketed well, but mediocrity cannot. Getting a young forward who's better than most in this draft plus a young puck moving defenseman with Stanley Cup experience is a win and something the team can promote.
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
Because he is the ONLY somewhat decent asset CHI is rumored to be willing to offer, and yet JJ shuts that down too.

We don't need Sharp, or Leddy or a late first or anymore second rate prospects.

I just don't see what you guys have to offer

- Whiskey-Tango


JJ didn't shut it down. He said his source told him that they don't want to part with TT. In negotiating, you never pay sticker price. If there is a way to acquire Kesler without parting with Saad or TT, the Hawks will try and do it. He's reporting what his source is telling him. You act like JJ is at the table.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
I think the Kessler deal does get done and Sharp is used to lower the Cap and maybe for a third line Center like Eller
Solidifies the Center position and then the Rockford group fill in the easier to fill vacant wing position depending on who goes to Vancouver

Don't see the Hawks the hated group in Vancouver they were back in 2011

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
That would absolutely wreck your locker room and whole point of rebuilding/retooling. You'd have 2 more years of Luongo drama. Good luck with that.
- JRoenick97

Not really, we could sign Kane next year because he wants to play with Kesler, plus he likes the bars here.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
Not really, we could sign Kane next year because he wants to play with Kesler, plus he likes the bars here.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Problem is Kane likes to win.
Joe-snoopy-Cool
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 04.05.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
It is a game of chicken between the Nucks and Kesler. If he pulls an Iginla and wants to go to the Hawks only - and if the Hawks suspect this - the Nucks will be forced to take that offer or keep him. Kesler could be daring them to keep him. Of course, this is all supposition on my part (about Kesler wanting one team only). The NHL soap opera continues to play out, eh?
- mohel



Mo got there first
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
My guess is Stastny stays in Colorado.
- ArlingtonRob


Would be so awesome to see STL come up empty handed and have to roll with that sorry lineup

maybe they sign olli jokinen
Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
I think the Kessler deal does get done and Sharp is used to lower the Cap and maybe for a third line Center like Eller
Solidifies the Center position and then the Rockford group fill in the easier to fill vacant wing position depending on who goes to Vancouver

Don't see the Hawks the hated group in Vancouver they were back in 2011

- PEIHawkFan


oh good god I am salvating at the idea of Kesler 2C and Eller 3C.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Seabrook gets the A.

No doubt

- mrpaulish


Unless Seabs is moved as well. Ya never know...
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Funny because it wasn't that long ago that Saad was just a prospect and included in some of the deals for 2C's proposed here.. I think this deal can be done without including TT (e.g. Leddy+ ____ + pick(s) for Kesler)
- CBHawks88

I'm sorry but not being a fan of either of these teams, why do hawks fans think leddy can be the center piece of a trade for spezza or Kesler? Leddy isn't even a top 1/2 D. IMO he MIGHT be a 4 but that's stretching it.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
I think Anaheim will offer a much better package. They've got the right type of players/prospects and picks.
- hankthetank


That's fine. However, no one is going to know what happens until it happens...
spanky
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
I still think that Stan is going to trade with The Panthers. The.Hawks will get Floridas number 1 pick for Sharp and McNeil. The Hawks will trade the number 1 pick , Leddy Morin and another player from Rockford for Kesler and their 7th pick in the draft. The Hawks will than trade the seventh pick from Vancouver for a quality third line D man ( that can kill penalties and can dish out hits ) and a third line forward that is physical and can kill penalties,
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
Would be so awesome to see STL come up empty handed and have to roll with that sorry lineup

maybe they sign olli jokinen

- FourFeathers773



That would be nice....
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
Problem is Kane likes to win.
- paulr

Like this year?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
I'm assuming that moving Sharp and his 5.9M cap hit is going to happen regardless of the Kesler situation...

...the end result will be more depth at the center position, the only question is who fills 2C.

Interesting times...

- ArlingtonRob


1.) Sharp goes now as his value will never be higher

2.) Or after next year

It's simple $$$ cap math....
Mo_Dangles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 03.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
What I really hope is we have to trade some youth for Kesler and then trade sharp to get back some really good youth we lost. So we add a great 2c in kesler plus some solid youth to help now and the future. The youth we get back may not put up as many points as TT but maybe make us a better all around team
- tomcat24

I am so against that. Trading your #1 goal scorer on a Stanley Cup contending team for youth is an absolutely horrible idea.

Sharp needs to stay a Blackhawk
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
Like this year?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Won more games than the Nucks .....
ksilvy58
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
Trading Sharp makes the most sense if one takes the long-term approach. I would much rather trade a player before he starts to decline - and Sharp will start to decline within a year or two based on this past years playoff performance and injuries over the past two seasons. He is most likely at his maximum value in the current market this year. Gain young assets for him and hope his scoring can be replaced by either Smith or the acquisition of a veteran free agent
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
That's fine. However, no one is going to know what happens until it happens...
- EKolb13


Kesler prefers Chi to Anaheim though.
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