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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
Also said they aren't offering enough for Canucks to bite. Said if the right offer isn't there the Canucks won't move him.
- golfingsince



That's fine...I don't want to overpay for Kesler (or anyone else), there are lots of alternatives out there.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 6:52 PM ET
Maybe, or maybe they'll hold onto him until the TDL and he'll really open up a list of teams.
- golfingsince


Or maybe he gets injured before the TDL?

You Nuck's faithful realize these "2 sides of the equation" things can go on endlessly, right?

A bidding war between Bob Murray and Stan Bowman?



If this is happening as per the rumors Benning is probably reviewing both teams lists of prospects to see what he CAN get from them other than TT or the 10th pick. I could see this coming down to a higher quantity of tier 2 prospects or maybe additional picks if these are the only teams in the running. No Shero or Sather to run things up.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:52 PM ET
The game of chicken continues...... His value will decrease with each successive trading period. And it seems that he doesn't want to be there. Hence, chicken.....
- mohel


More like poker I'd say, Benning is now painted in the same corner as Gillis was with Luongo. To top it off word is out that the Hawks are kicking the tires on Spezza. So Benning now has to figure out if there's a bluff and how to play his hand.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 6:53 PM ET
That would be ideal, though i don't believe they came from any credible sources, i did hear rumors concerning a three-way between Van, Chi and NYI.
- Whiskey-Tango




I postex earlier there are 4 teams in the east with top 10 picks that could deal that pick for sharpie and then flip the pick to Van part of the Kesler deal
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 6:54 PM ET
Or maybe he gets injured before the TDL?

You Nuck's faithful realize these "2 sides of the equation" things can go on endlessly, right?

A bidding war between Bob Murray and Stan Bowman?



If this is happening as per the rumors Benning is probably reviewing both teams lists of prospects to see what he CAN get from them other than TT or the 10th pick. I could see this coming down to a higher quantity of tier 2 prospects or maybe additional picks if these are the only teams in the running. No Shero or Sather to run things up.

- tredbrta




This......

The Hawks stoleTT and the Ducks stole that#10 pick from.Ottawa . Theu want to keep those assets and move onto other ideas to make a deal
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
Actually, it was reported this morning that Kesler actually shrank his list down to two, Anaheim and Chicago. Vancouver absolutely won't give him away for B-level prospects, and could threaten Kesler to expand his list of teams by saying "Okay, see you in training camp!". Keep in mind that a good trade is where both teams feel iffy about whether or not they made the right deal. A deal with TT for Kesler could go down like Nieuwendyk for Iginla back in the day. Both teams are happy and don't look back.
- hawks2010




Where was that reported...U have a link? Thanks
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
Actually, it was reported this morning that Kesler actually shrank his list down to two, Anaheim and Chicago. Vancouver absolutely won't give him away for B-level prospects, and could threaten Kesler to expand his list of teams by saying "Okay, see you in training camp!". Keep in mind that a good trade is where both teams feel iffy about whether or not they made the right deal. A deal with TT for Kesler could go down like Nieuwendyk for Iginla back in the day. Both teams are happy and don't look back.
- hawks2010




Where was that reported...U have a link? Thanks
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
Where was that reported...U have a link? Thanks
- Al



I dont think it was reported as such. I thi k its been the constant story line of

A. Duck and Hawks most interested

B. Kesler has a ntc and preferes the Blackhawks or Pens.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
Where was that reported...U have a link? Thanks
- Al


Al, this post on Kukla's Korner says Dreger said Hawks and Ducks are the only two on Kessler's list.
http://nhl.com/hockey/com...slers-situation-hawks-etc
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:01 PM ET
Where was that reported...U have a link? Thanks
- Al

Kypreos made a comment that the two main teams in the hunt are Chicago and Anaheim, pretty sure he didn't say Kesler narrowed it down.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
Al, this post on Kukla's Korner says Dreger said Hawks and Ducks are the only two on Kessler's list.
http://nhl.com/hockey/com...slers-situation-hawks-etc

- Hemingways



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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 25 @ 7:04 PM ET
Al, this post on Kukla's Korner says Dreger said Hawks and Ducks are the only two on Kessler's list.
http://nhl.com/hockey/com...slers-situation-hawks-etc

- Hemingways



McKenzie #Kesler does have 6 teams on his list with ANA and CHI the most interested but not offering enough for #canucks to bite yet

McKenzie: VAN won't make the Kesler deal at the draft if they don't feel like they're getting the right pieces back.
jhawk59
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Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:04 PM ET
Trade Hayes' rights and Leddy to Edmonton for next years' #1 overall pick.
- Hemingways

Wishful thinking to acquire probably a top ten choice for an unproven and not ready for prime time Hayes. Leddy would be a train wreck on that defense.

Here is an idea that has a slight possibility of happening. I think it would energize the team. Next season around trade deadline time of season, recall two forwards and put with a veteran to form a line similarly to that which LA did this past season. Lombardi pushed a reluctant Sutter to play them, or so the story goes. Would maybe Bowman do the pushing for a Chicago scenario with the likes of TT, McNeill, Danault.

I omit Nordstrom, whom I wish to see become the #4 center eventually. I also omit Carey, whose development I cannot gauge as well right now. Need to see and hear more about Carey's game.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
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Jun 25 @ 7:05 PM ET


#DownwithDistrict5



Yes no ?
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
Wishful thinking to acquire probably a top ten choice for an unproven and not ready for prime time Hayes. Leddy would be a train wreck on that defense.


- jhawk59


Leddy would be hysterical to watch on Edmonton. That team has the worst defense I've ever seen. lol
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
This......

The Hawks stole TT and the Ducks stole that#10 pick from.Ottawa . Theu want to keep those assets and move onto other ideas to make a deal

- mrpaulish


Benning is a scout. A number of those young D the Bruins have were ID'd by him. The Bs have done well with middling picks for some time. Not sure he scouted Marchand but he was drafted on his watch. He will be inclined to bet on himself and accumulate numbers of picks/prospects.

The only wild card is this year's crappy draft class. All you hear is he wants to move up for Reinhart or whomever. So, if it is not about picks... tell me that the Ducks and Hawks do not both have prospects he scouted and wanted to draft. Odds are something gets done and all of this Gillis/Nuck style "our deal or no deal" til the TDL is hooey.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:12 PM ET
Benning is a scout. A number of those young D the Bruins have were ID'd by him. The Bs have done well with middling picks for some time. Not sure he scouted Marchand but he was drafted on his watch. He will be inclined to bet on himself and accumulate numbers of picks/prospects.

The only wild card is this year's crappy draft class. All you hear is he wants to move up for Reinhart or whomever. So, if it is not about picks... tell me that the Ducks and Hawks do not both have prospects he scouted and wanted to draft. Odds are something gets done and all of this Gillis/Nuck style "our deal or no deal" til the TDL is hooey.

- tredbrta



Agreed.





Sharps agent just said HE IS NOT GETTING TRADED THERE IS NO TRUTH TO IT. 10 MINS AGO
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
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Jun 25 @ 7:13 PM ET
http://m.espn.go.com/gene...2Ft.co%2FtTP3Oh4xvA%22%7D

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:15 PM ET
McKenzie #Kesler does have 6 teams on his list with ANA and CHI the most interested but not offering enough for #canucks to bite yet

McKenzie: VAN won't make the Kesler deal at the draft if they don't feel like they're getting the right pieces back.

- Whiskey-Tango



I will stick to what I heard and Tweeted yesterday...
Kesler's top two choices were Hawks/Penguins
Best offer made was Anaheim... 3 pieces= 2 players and a early draft pick this year.

Things could change for sure and I wouldn't be surprised if more teams from the East get involved.

My whispers at the time indicated Kesler wasn't so friendly about Anaheim...But that could change for sure and not sure how much he can steer the deal anyway.
On Twitter@AlCimaglia
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 7:16 PM ET
Agreed.





Sharps agent just said HE IS NOT GETTING TRADED THERE IS NO TRUTH TO IT. 10 MINS AGO

- mrpaulish


Wow. That's a lot of smoke and no fire if true. I have seen "Sharp being shopped" everywhere.

Isn't his agent Bobby Orr? Doubt he would say that without talking to the Hawks FO first....
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagoblackhawks&id=4683804&city=chicago&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FtTP3Oh4xvA%22%7D
- mrpaulish


Interesting.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 7:19 PM ET
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagoblackhawks&id=4683804&city=chicago&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FtTP3Oh4xvA%22%7D
- mrpaulish



If this is true I'm half they're not trading Sharp.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 7:19 PM ET
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagoblackhawks&id=4683804&city=chicago&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FtTP3Oh4xvA%22%7D
- mrpaulish


Rick Curran of the Orr Group. Also said he spoke with Stan just days back. Sounds solid.

Good bye Oduya and/or Leddy then.
Sundevil
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.24.2012

Jun 25 @ 7:20 PM ET
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagoblackhawks&id=4683804&city=chicago&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FtTP3Oh4xvA%22%7D
- mrpaulish


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mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:21 PM ET
Wow. That's a lot of smoke and no fire if true. I have seen "Sharp being shopped" everywhere.

Isn't his agent Bobby Orr? Doubt he would say that without talking to the Hawks FO first....

- tredbrta


Could be the agent is helping the Hawks get value by lowering the impression of a fire sale (especially if Sharp wants to go). Could be that Sharp is going nowhere. Can't really believe anything we hear at this time of year from teams and agents.
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