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top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
Kesler!
- z1990z

Good then get him ,they want young players in return as do we
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
Kesler! Spezza and his primary W's were a -50 last year. -50!!
- z1990z



VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
Fixed. So funny how everyone in Vancouver except Jim benign is trying so hard to deal Kesler to Anaheim. Careful what ya wish for . . .
- John Jaeckel

Hope he goes there.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
Only if they keep half Kesler's salary.

That deal would be sweet. You could trade Sharp still or keep him and move another, smaller hit like Oduya. If they keep Sharp our top 2 lines would have it all.

I would be more inclined to move Sharp for a high pick this year or next. It would need to be top 3 this year if it was straight up. You would want to replace TT in the system with one of the big 3 this year or have a high pick in the better draft next year.

- tredbrta


Bowman won't be turning his top goal scorer into a draft pick if/come/00 maybe. Contenders don't do that; the dregs of the league follow that plan.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
Stastny


Have not heard boo about the Hawks having interest. But . . . if they do, he becomes an excellent option in early free agency.

A couple of, umm, problems.

1) Cost. You not only have to move Sharp (definitely) but also likely another NHL asset to fit what his salary will be under the cap and the Wonder twins
2) Other teams driving up the price in a bidding war

Would he give the Hawks a decent “deal” to come to Chicago? Maybe, Peter Stastny (his father) and Marian Hossa’s family are the hockey royalty of Slovakia and Hossa has strong ties with Peter. AND he’d get to play with either Hossa or Patrick Kane on his wing and have some monster years as a point producer. AND, he’d have multiple shots at winning a Cup.

The big issues here, though, are the potential costs of a bidding war and whether the Hawks like him on and off the ice.

Stastny’s agent also represents Zdeno Chara, Hossa’s best friend, so there really could be a Slovakian connection here.

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
GD noooooooo Spezza. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
- z1990z



Yes....................Without a doubt I would say.

My view is Spezza is either choice 1 or 1A...if a 2nd line center is the aim.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
Stastny


Have not heard boo about the Hawks having interest. But . . . if they do, he becomes an excellent option in early free agency.

A couple of, umm, problems.

1) Cost. You not only have to move Sharp (definitely) but also likely another NHL asset to fit what his salary will be under the cap and the Wonder twins
2) Other teams driving up the price in a bidding war

Would he give the Hawks a decent “deal” to come to Chicago? Maybe, Peter Stastny (his father) and Marian Hossa’s family are the hockey royalty of Slovakia and Hossa has strong ties with Peter. AND he’d get to play with either Hossa or Patrick Kane on his wing and have some monster years as a point producer. AND, he’d have multiple shots at winning a Cup.

The big issues here, though, are the potential costs of a bidding war and whether the Hawks like him on and off the ice.

Stastny’s agent also represents Zdeno Chara, Hossa’s best friend, so there really could be a Slovakian connection here.

- John Jaeckel

Nope i see chicago ,trading sharp for some assets.Trading these assets to ottawa for Spezza ,plus some more cap relief and signing vanek
Sconnie
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Joined: 08.20.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
Nope i see chicago ,trading sharp for some assets.Trading these assets to ottawa for Spezza ,plus some more cap relief and signing vanek
- top shelf 15


SnapitUpstairs
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CHICAGO, IL
Joined: 02.03.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:49 PM ET
He is a $6 million player at least...Very rich for a long term deal here.
- Al


>Denver media reporting that the Wild are definitely interested in Stastny
>No reason why the Ducks wouldn't be either
>Blues?
>And probably many more teams -- especially those with plenty of $ to spend
>Hawks best sell is their roster and Cup wins -- can Hossa pull any strings?
>Tons of options for Stastny -- probably too many moves needed by the Hawks to get him
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yes....................Without a doubt I would say.

My view is Spezza is either choice 1 or 1A...if a 2nd line center is the aim.

- Al


You get Spezza at 2C, I almost guarantee Kane finally cracks 90 pts

Spezza isnt physical by any means, but the boy is large and he uses his body to protect and shield the puck VERY well in the offensive zone

the kind of big bodied possesion center Kaner needs on his line
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:51 PM ET

- Sconnie
So a second line of vanek,spezza and kane doesnt seem good to you??Sharp is 35 years old ,you can sacrifice him to keep a very big part of your core happy in Kane by making a move like this
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
Stastny


Have not heard boo about the Hawks having interest. But . . . if they do, he becomes an excellent option in early free agency.

A couple of, umm, problems.

1) Cost. You not only have to move Sharp (definitely) but also likely another NHL asset to fit what his salary will be under the cap and the Wonder twins
2) Other teams driving up the price in a bidding war

Would he give the Hawks a decent “deal” to come to Chicago? Maybe, Peter Stastny (his father) and Marian Hossa’s family are the hockey royalty of Slovakia and Hossa has strong ties with Peter. AND he’d get to play with either Hossa or Patrick Kane on his wing and have some monster years as a point producer. AND, he’d have multiple shots at winning a Cup.

The big issues here, though, are the potential costs of a bidding war and whether the Hawks like him on and off the ice.

Stastny’s agent also represents Zdeno Chara, Hossa’s best friend, so there really could be a Slovakian connection here.

- John Jaeckel


The Slovakian connection could be a tipping point if all things were equal, but I reckon a team like the Blues would come in significantly higher to make the SVK factor moot. I wouldn't take $2M less per in order to play with some dude my dad knows well.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
Yes....................Without a doubt I would say.
- Al


Don't know...Kane and Saad really need a physical presence between them. Kesler brings all that and help on the PK. The fact that he gets Selke talk is a huge plus. Spezza just strikes me as one way player. Q demands that his C play both ways equally. Yes Spezza can put up the points, but will he hold his own on D??
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
You get Spezza at 2C, I almost guarantee Kane finally cracks 90 pts

Spezza isnt physical by any means, but the boy is large and he uses his body to protect and shield the puck VERY well in the offensive zone

the kind of big bodied possesion center Kaner needs on his line

- FourFeathers773
Also great at faceoffs
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
Yes....................Without a doubt I would say.

My view is Spezza is either choice 1 or 1A...if a 2nd line center is the aim.

- Al




Al , you've been on Spezza to the HAwks hard.

Would the deal be for Sharp + ?

Multiple assets both ways moving ?
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
>Denver media reporting that the Wild are definitely interested in Stastny
>No reason why the Ducks wouldn't be either
>Blues?
>And probably many more teams -- especially those with plenty of $ to spend
>Hawks best sell is their roster and Cup wins -- can Hossa pull any strings?
>Tons of options for Stastny -- probably too many moves needed by the Hawks to get him

- SnapitUpstairs


Cost and a 5-7 yr term makes it hard to work here.
SnapitUpstairs
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CHICAGO, IL
Joined: 02.03.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
Stastny


Have not heard boo about the Hawks having interest. But . . . if they do, he becomes an excellent option in early free agency.

A couple of, umm, problems.

1) Cost. You not only have to move Sharp (definitely) but also likely another NHL asset to fit what his salary will be under the cap and the Wonder twins
2) Other teams driving up the price in a bidding war

Would he give the Hawks a decent “deal” to come to Chicago? Maybe, Peter Stastny (his father) and Marian Hossa’s family are the hockey royalty of Slovakia and Hossa has strong ties with Peter. AND he’d get to play with either Hossa or Patrick Kane on his wing and have some monster years as a point producer. AND, he’d have multiple shots at winning a Cup.

The big issues here, though, are the potential costs of a bidding war and whether the Hawks like him on and off the ice.

Stastny’s agent also represents Zdeno Chara, Hossa’s best friend, so there really could be a Slovakian connection here.

- John Jaeckel


>I should have checked one more time before posting -- you touched every base
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
Don't know...Kane and Saad really need a physical presence between them. Kesler brings all that and help on the PK. The fact that he gets Selke talk is a huge plus. Spezza just strikes me as one way player. Q demands that his C play both ways equally. Yes Spezza can put up the points, but will he hold his own on D??
- z1990z
Most players that can put up the numbers he can ,arent known to be defensive specialists
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:53 PM ET
Stastny


Have not heard boo about the Hawks having interest. But . . . if they do, he becomes an excellent option in early free agency.

A couple of, umm, problems.

1) Cost. You not only have to move Sharp (definitely) but also likely another NHL asset to fit what his salary will be under the cap and the Wonder twins
2) Other teams driving up the price in a bidding war

Would he give the Hawks a decent “deal” to come to Chicago? Maybe, Peter Stastny (his father) and Marian Hossa’s family are the hockey royalty of Slovakia and Hossa has strong ties with Peter. AND he’d get to play with either Hossa or Patrick Kane on his wing and have some monster years as a point producer. AND, he’d have multiple shots at winning a Cup.

The big issues here, though, are the potential costs of a bidding war and whether the Hawks like him on and off the ice.

Stastny’s agent also represents Zdeno Chara, Hossa’s best friend, so there really could be a Slovakian connection here.

- John Jaeckel



JJ, I could see your #2 being a non-factor. If Paul has his mind made up to play for Chicago and a chance to play with Hossa, then it really doesn't matter what other teams offer him. But I am glad you linked him to Hossa, I have believed that this is something most people are overlooking.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:53 PM ET
Al , you've been on Spezza to the HAwks hard.

Would the deal be for Sharp + ?

Multiple assets both ways moving ?

- mrpaulish
Doesnt fit our team ,too old .Thats why he would be shipped out to gain some pieces that could work
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
So a second line of vanek,spezza and kane doesnt seem good to you??Sharp is 35 years old ,you can sacrifice him to keep a very big part of your core happy in Kane by making a move like this

- top shelf 15



Sharp is 32 and playing is best hockey, any trade involving him can't be taken lightly.

I have no desire to have Vanek on the team...none at all.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Yes....................Without a doubt I would say.

My view is Spezza is either choice 1 or 1A...if a 2nd line center is the aim.

- Al


Do you truely believe this?

It makes sense to me because I can't see Kelser and Toews playing nice together, but if you believe Kesler's not Chi's first choice then you're in denial (or being purposely misled by your insider contact).
Sconnie
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Joined: 08.20.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
So a second line of vanek,spezza and kane doesnt seem good to you??Sharp is 35 years old ,you can sacrifice him to keep a very big part of your core happy in Kane by making a move like this

- top shelf 15


no defense, no cap room for that
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
>Denver media reporting that the Wild are definitely interested in Stastny
>No reason why the Ducks wouldn't be either
>Blues?
>And probably many more teams -- especially those with plenty of $ to spend
>Hawks best sell is their roster and Cup wins -- can Hossa pull any strings?
>Tons of options for Stastny -- probably too many moves needed by the Hawks to get him

- SnapitUpstairs


Wild and blues are teams to watch for Stasny. Wild will be players for Stasny or vanek.

Blues for Spezza or Stasny.

Biggest variable for Kesler scenario would be Anaheim getting Spezza and then shrinking that market for the hawks. Hawks vs eastern conference team IF any have made legit bids.

I don't see the Penguins anywhere....they have 15 million in cap space BUT they have a ton of guys to sign, and adding a Kesler would only make them more top heavy and they have been down that road the past 2 years.

Boston has no cap space. So where is the eastern conference team coming from? Kesler supposedly wants NO part of Canada.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
Most players that can put up the numbers he can ,arent known to be defensive specialists
- top shelf 15


K... that's the point then. Kane/Saad will put up points.. they need that edge in the middle who is really good on D. I like Kane, but damn he can get lazy on the back check. LA showed what 4 D minded C can do. Saad is Frolik like and is very good on the back check. To have a C and W that aren't solid in that area sets up to be a bad situation. Unless you flip Kane and Hossa and let Hossa play with Spezza then that is a better option.
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