Then there is this clown trying to ruin the party !


ian esplen ‏@IanEsplen 35s

Sending this song out to @Ryan_Kesler as it's looking like he'll be heading to Disneyland DADA - Dizz Knee Land: http://youtu.be/JElt1E4Vtg0
- mrpaulish

The biggest troll of them all. How on earth did he, and/or Matthew Berry, get a spot blogging here. The bar must be set real low.

Nice to see 12 hours later people are still arguing over Kessler's leverage.
- Hemingways

Its never going to end :

If Im right , and Kesler comes to the Hawks for a deal that looks to be under valued im going to sayyyyy


Told you so


LOL

And then they tweeted this:

@TheHockeyChat: @TheHockeyChat just a rumor at this point. Talks are ongoing between both teams. Nothing is guaranteed but talks continue. Would be huge
- captainserious

No thanks. Neal is a goon who should have been banned for life for the knee to the head of Marchand. The new king of discipline might take a harder stance on Neal's goonery than Shanahan did.

Sharp and Leddy to Ottawa for Spezza and Mark Stone.
- Bjm84

Hmmm... That's really interesting. I'd probably say yes to that. Might need to mix in a few more pieces, i'm just not sure from which side. Mark Stone is held in fairly high praise in the org..

And then they tweeted this:

@TheHockeyChat: @TheHockeyChat just a rumor at this point. Talks are ongoing between both teams. Nothing is guaranteed but talks continue. Would be huge
- captainserious

This all is aggravating and fun at the same time.

#2 is easy. That could be 2 cups, and he could extend at a discount if he likes it. No guarantees TT is a top 6 player for even 5 years.

Wasn't Tuomo Ruutu supposed to be a top 6 player for over a decade?
- golfingsince

Ruutu was drafted by an old regime that was not good at drafting nor supporting prospects to be successful. Ruutu, even being in a watered down European league (compared to what those leagues are now) never had the accolades that TT has gotten. TT was very close to being a point per game player in a man's league at the age of 18, won the gold medal in the WJC and was the leading scorer. Ruuto was barely a .5 per game player, in the same league, so comparing them favors TT tremendously.

The biggest troll of them all. How on earth did he, and/or Matthew Berry, get a spot blogging here. The bar must be set real low.
- eburgio

I think they give folks a chance . Berry was pretty bad . Did he miss out or whatt ? Berry was the Blogger the sandwhich year the Kings didnt win ! lolololol

Sure , if the new management and new head coach want a player that wants out.
- mrpaulish

He'll still be playing for his next contract. I'd personally go to Kesler and tell him i'm sorry that I can't get a deal done under his parameters. I'll see you at camp. If he really wants out as badly as suggested, he'll open up to more teams.

Not a bad deal, but would it really by worth it?

Edit: Can Neal play LW? He's listed as a RW and I doubt he plays ahead of Kane or Hossa.
- DarthKane

James Neal?

Screw that.

I'll keep an older Sharp over a cheap-shotting diver who disappears when it matters.

Nice story about GM's needing to trust their scouting departments more in the draft:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...-fuels-league-circle-life

He'll still be playing for his next contract. I'd personally go to Kesler and tell him i'm sorry that I can't get a deal done under his parameters. I'll see you at camp. If he really wants out as badly as suggested, he'll open up to more teams.
- golfingsince

We'll see..... probably very shortly .


Players get NTC NMC in their contracts in exchange for $ . Player A might sign for 1m or more less annual aav to get a NTC . The Canucks can't pretend that he doesnt have one

I would rather have Sharp..but hey that's just me
- captainserious

I'd rather have Sharp too. I wouldn't be too upset if th deal happened, but my preference is to keep Sharp.

Hmmm... That's really interesting. I'd probably say yes to that. Might need to mix in a few more pieces, i'm just not sure from which side. Mark Stone is held in fairly high praise in the org..
- Jordo

As is Leddy here, lots of upside and high ceiling and I think you guys could use some young puck moving defencemen? We need to a center and a little more size that compliments skill, you can replace production lost(relatively) with Sharp and much more reasonable cap hit PLUS boost your D corps.

Malkin supposedly loves Neal, so we might as well skip Neal and just trade for Malkin.

Sharp, Leddy, TT, and this year's 1. Done. Solves the 2nd center problem.

I think they give folks a chance . Berry was pretty bad . Did he miss out or whatt ? Berry was the Blogger the sandwhich year the Kings didnt win ! lolololol
- mrpaulish

He came in here and threw a cheap shot at the HWks and their fans during the Kings series...very mature(red font)

And Vince ,
The list of 6 teams is contractually required to be given to the Canucks management . Kesler still has to OK the trade. Doesnt have to be to any of the 6 teams listed. If Kesler has decided that he wants to play in Chicago he will be in Chicago . Its that simple.
- mrpaulish

worst case you sign him as a ufa in 3 years

I get that you want your 2LC to be a defensive guy, but teaming Patrick Kane up with Jason Spezza is downright terrifying....

BREAKING NEWS: A trade is being discussed between the Penguins and Hawks that would see a James Neal for Patrick Sharp swap!!!

per @TheHockeyChat
- howiehandles

oh gawd....i'm going back to bed

Wake me when its over....

worst case you sign him as a ufa in 3 years
- VanHockeyGuy

And the best case ?

oh gawd....i'm going back to bed

Wake me when its over....
- bogiedoc

Night night Bogie !

We'll see..... probably very shortly .


Players get NTC NMC in their contracts in exchange for $ . Player A might sign for 1m or more less annual aav to get a NTC . The Canucks can't pretend that he doesnt have one
- mrpaulish

A NTC is a no trade clause. Kelser can't pretend the Canucks have to trade him either. IT's not a trade me to the team I want to be traded to when I say I don't want to be here anymore clause.

I get that you want your 2LC to be a defensive guy, but teaming Patrick Kane up with Jason Spezza is downright terrifying....
- Jordo

The problem is it might be at both ends of the ice.

oh gawd....i'm going back to bed

Wake me when its over....
- bogiedoc

I'd rather have Sharp too. I wouldn't be too upset if th deal happened, but my preference is to keep Sharp.
- DarthKane

The deal doesn't make sense though. The Hawks don't need wingers, especially wingers carrying 5 million cap hits with the raises due in the coming years. The Hawks only save $900,000 with this type of trade. I think if this were to happen then more pieces would be moving.

A NTC is a no trade clause. Kelser can't pretend the Canucks have to trade him either. IT's not a trade me to the team I want to be traded to when I say I don't want to be here anymore clause.
- golfingsince

True, and he's under contract, not an RFA like ROR was. I can't see him holding out.