StLBravesFan
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Score, but Berstein is just an actor. His mood depends on the partner of the day. With Rosner he's chill, but with Boers he likes to stir the pot, and play the contrarian role aka Marriotti. Ratings equals money. I enjoy Mully and Hanley though, and do like Rosner. - howiehandles
As bad as the WSCR guys are - and I can't say I like any of them - they are worlds better than the guys on the Game: that stuff is un-listenable. |
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StLBravesFan
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Score, but Berstein is just an actor. His mood depends on the partner of the day. With Rosner he's chill, but with Boers he likes to stir the pot, and play the contrarian role aka Marriotti. Ratings equals money. I enjoy Mully and Hanley though, and do like Rosner. - howiehandles
As bad as the WSCR guys are - and I can't say I like any of them - they are worlds better than the guys on the Game: that stuff is un-listenable. |
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howiehandles
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Bernstein is a f(u)cking idiot and so is his @$$wipe partner. The ONLY reason I'll tune in is when Rozner is on, like you mentioned. 1pm on I switch to ESPN. I have to.
Love Danny Mac, even with all his ills, Spiegel is OK, and Mully/Hanley are easy listening. Those other j@gs can just drop off the face of the earth for all I care. I'd LOVE to hear Rozner with a regular (daily) gig. - blackhawk24
Spiegel and Mac used to bug me, but I appreciate Mac for toning it down and becoming a bit more humble through his life experiences. Spiegel seems like a good guy who just happens to have a great job on the radio. |
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hawks2010
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If this is sort of remotely true:
NHLSourcesSay @NHLSourcesSay · 6 t
#BreakingNews #Ducks have offer on table for #Canucks Ryan Kesler; two 1st round picks 10th, 24th overall + top prospect. #NSS #confirmed
NHLSourcesSay @NHLSourcesSay · 6 t
#Hawks need to up offer, VAN want Tervainen + Leddy + 1st round pick. #Canucks willing to keep 50% of Kesler salary #NSS ball in CHI court
NHLSourcesSay @NHLSourcesSay
#Penguins still in mix, Kesler's second choice behind #Hawks. Current offer of Sutter + Pouliot + 1st round pick not enough for #Canucks
Anaheim's offers by far the worst unless prospect is named Jesus On Ice Skates. Or Gretzky. It's a weak draft.
Piuttsburgh's is solid and competitive with the Hawks.
Leddy and Pouliot are comparable. Sutter and who the Hawks have probably been offering (Danault or Hartman) are comparable. In both cases, one team's asset just has more experience than the other.
Of ALL the assets actually named here, Leddy is by far the surest thing/highest upside. Pouliot CUOLD end up a better player than Leddy. But that would likely be 2-3 years away minimum. Leddy has all the tools Pouliot does and more size. There ARE valid questions about Leddy's decision-making an delay in his own end, but he has improved in those areas every year. And at 22, he is a top 4 defenseman/PP threat on just about any team in the league except maybe Chicago and 2-3 others.
Granted, Sutter is more of a sure thing than Hartman or Danault. But the best player right now =of all these guys is Nick Leddy. And he could well be 5 years from now. - John Jaeckel
Team 1040 in Vancouver saying Anaheim has pulled the 10th overall pick off the table (it was offered at the deadline), and that is why the deal with Anaheim hasn't happened there. The morning hosts seem to think a deal with Anaheim will happen. |
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DarthKane
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Uh Ya??? The fans got Gillis fired if you recall. Ownership is very concerned about public perception. I don't think the fans have the mindset you suggest. I live in Duncan Keith’s hometown, last summer he praised the Sedin's, the man is a class act. There are lots of Chicago fans in BC my friend; the 2011 mindset simply does not exist. Give Van what they want for Kes, you will forget about them after you win the cup next year! - VanHockeyGuy
Some of the best!! |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Team 1040 in Vancouver saying Anaheim has pulled the 10th overall pick off the table (it was offered at the deadline), and that is why the deal with Anaheim hasn't happened there. The morning hosts seem to think a deal with Anaheim will happen. - hawks2010
Havent seen as mich today as 24hours ago... its only 730 am though in BC . Hopefully around noon their time we start seeing some TSN guys with something.
Al ?
Jj ?
Jeff P ?
You giys got anything new ?
Feed the animal. ! |
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mrpaulish
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Are the 1040.van sports radio guys legit or are they useless lile the sports talk guys here ? |
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BearsnHawks
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I'm having a REAL hard time here understanding why people refuse to include TT in a trade for Kesler. I saw some idiot responded on Scott Powers tweet that nhl will be taken hostage when he arrives. Dear god man, slap yourself.
Will TT be good? Who the hell knows. Will he be better then Saad? I don't think so and I would hope 99.9% of people here would keep Saad over Teuvo. And then you look at Saad....hes coming into his own but he's not a STAR yet. For all the hype this Teuvo kid gets, what has he done? IF he were that good...wouldn't the Hawks have kept him on the roster? Wouldn't this kid have NOT been sent home from his world team? Wouldn't he have made some impact in 3 games? When we saw 19/88 in 2007/08 you knew these kids would be damn good. I don't see that in Teuvo. Not superstar status, a solid NHL player? Maybe....but are you really going to wait on that and miss out on a HUGE chance to give yourself arguably the best 1-3 punch at center in regards to defense, and 2 top centers in regards to offense? All for what COULD BE?
I thought this organization had ONE goal, and that this farm system is so loaded it's bursting...so is Teuvo really going to haunt you and break you? NO, NO he isn't.
Package the kid. TODAY. Get the deal done and give yourself 48 hours to drive the price for Sharp up....Sign a veteran 4th line center. Move Shaw and Smith to Wings. Sign or get back a cheap, large bruising F who can play in the playoffs and you can roll 4 lines.
If they miss out on Kesler because of Teuvo this kid better not only make this team out of camp, he better put up 60+ points and be in contention for the calder to justify the blatant stupidity of playing a dangerous game of chicken. - SteveRain
A few things:
1) Bowman over-values his prospects and doesn't want to trade TT.
2) Why do you think a projected top 6 player, for the next 10-15 years, should be traded for a guy who will be a two year rental?
3) The Hawks model is to build through the draft and be patient with their prospects. This is to make the team good for the future. You seem to only care about today. Would getting 1-2 cups (if everything goes well and no major injuries occur) be satisfying enough for you in which we will become a 1st round exit team once Hossa gets too old and we have to go through cap hell again? I would much rather have a good possibility of being a team that will consistently have a chance at making the Stanley Cup Finals, or going deep in the playoffs, like they have done for the past 6 years.
4) Don't compare TT's situation to Toews and Kane, they both were entering the organization at different times with different plans. We all know the Hawks follow the Red Wing Model, so lets take a look at their players who entered the league after they were 19 (TT's current age):
Fedorov was 21
Lidstrom was 21
Zetterburg was 22
Datsuyk was 23
Nyquist was 24 before he had more than 25 games in a season
Were all those player not "that good" and didnt play in the NHL because of that? |
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bhawks8819
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Sitting at work doing reconciliations.  Some one give me some trade rumors to ponder.... even if you need to make them up for Saad's sake. |
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mrpaulish
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
Jason Spezza trade talk heating up. OTT in conversation with 4 teams, three in the West and one in the East. |
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Are the 1040.van sports radio guys legit or are they useless lile the sports talk guys here ? - mrpaulish
They're worse. |
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howiehandles
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golfingsince
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A few things:
1) Bowman over-values his prospects and doesn't want to trade TT.
2) Why do you think a projected top 6 player, for the next 10-15 years, should be traded for a guy who will be a two year rental?
3) The Hawks model is to build through the draft and be patient with their prospects. This is to make the team good for the future. You seem to only care about today. Would getting 1-2 cups (if everything goes well and no major injuries occur) be satisfying enough for you in which we will become a 1st round exit team once Hossa gets too old and we have to go through cap hell again? I would much rather have a good possibility of being a team that will consistently have a chance at making the Stanley Cup Finals, or going deep in the playoffs, like they have done for the past 6 years.
4) Don't compare TT's situation to Toews and Kane, they both were entering the organization at different times with different plans. We all know the Hawks follow the Red Wing Model, so lets take a look at their players who entered the league after they were 19 (TT's current age):
Fedorov was 21
Lidstrom was 21
Zetterburg was 22
Datsuyk was 23
Nyquist was 24 before he had more than 25 games in a season
Were all those player not "that good" and didnt play in the NHL because of that? - BearsnHawks
#2 is easy. That could be 2 cups, and he could extend at a discount if he likes it. No guarantees TT is a top 6 player for even 5 years.
Wasn't Tuomo Ruutu supposed to be a top 6 player for over a decade?
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StLBravesFan
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Bernstein is a f(u)cking idiot and so is his @$$wipe partner. The ONLY reason I'll tune in is when Rozner is on, like you mentioned. 1pm on I switch to ESPN. I have to.
Love Danny Mac, even with all his ills, Spiegel is OK, and Mully/Hanley are easy listening. Those other j@gs can just drop off the face of the earth for all I care. I'd LOVE to hear Rozner with a regular (daily) gig. - blackhawk24
McNeil is too proud of his alcohol and drug issues, his rehab stints, and his gambling - it's like he thinks all of those things are somehow cool, "manly" things to do. Spiegel always seems to be saying things he just read or heard, especially about hockey - he has no analytical abilities.
Bernstein and Boers are - well - we know what they are.
Molly and Hanley have Chet Koppick diseases- they ask 20 minute questions that get 20 second answers.
Of course, it was even worse when they had North, Jiggets (fattest human this side of Aretha Franklin - if you can get around to this side) and Murphy.
I can't say there are any "personalities" on any of the sports talk stations that I look forward to listening to. |
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mrpaulish
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dsav123
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To Start ......
Plus throw Leddy and Shaw or Leddy and Danault , something like that .
So to elaborate ,
Chicago :
Ryan Kesler
Florida :
Patrick Sharp
27th pick in the 1st round
Vancouver :
#1 Overall pick
Nick Leddy
Andrew Shaw (or Danault or McNeil or Hartman)
Something like that .
But what I think is happening is this :
I think the HAwks have a deal in place for Kesler , I think the Hawks are verifying with the league on the order as which the Kesler and the Sharp deals have to be made so that the Hawks stay cap compliant throughout this process. The Blackhawk front office is very detailed. I am sure the Canucks and whoever is getting Sharp is happy to wait an extra day . I think The Hawks , Canucks and Sharps new team will all be happy with the deals they made. This wont be a 3 way deal but two different trades , - mrpaulish
so you're saying Chicago gives up Sharp, Leddy and Shaw/prospect to get Kesler in return?
Please please please...never ever run my franchise!
Trow Tanav Chicago's way and maybe! |
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BearsnHawks
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Exactly and that's my whole point.....If your prospects sucked outside of Teuvo...fine....get it....but you have a LOT of prospects so again.....what is the hold up?
We aren't talking Gretzky here. We aren't talking Forsberg here.....What are we talking with Teuvo? At best WAY DOWN the road a Sedin? If that were the case, why did he fall to the Hawks? - SteveRain
Why did Keith, Seabrook, Saad, Shaw, and Jammer fall to the Hawks? You can't judge a player's ability based on when he was taken in the draft. |
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Local sports radio suggests (just now) the canucks are asking the kesler camp to expand their list because the offers are not there, that’s where the real negotiations are right now. They want the #10 pick from Anaheim, who has apparently pulled it off the table. kesler won’t get traded if the offer isn’t there, they suggested Chicago’s interest is ‘lukewarm’. It’s up to kesler now, expand you list or see you in camp. |
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howiehandles
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
Jason Spezza trade talk heating up. OTT in conversation with 4 teams, three in the West and one in the East. - mrpaulish
@TravisHeHateMe: Eastern team is Florida.
Yost just tweeted that a few minutes ago |
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DarthKane
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Are the 1040.van sports radio guys legit or are they useless lile the sports talk guys here ? - mrpaulish
The morning show is terrible, I stopped listening when they changed up their cast. The took their regular morning guy (Scott Rintoul) and moved him to the graveyard shift. They brought in this tool, Bro Jake, who knows nothing about sports but tries to be entertaining. You definitely don't listen to 1040 is you want actual sports news. |
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mrpaulish
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so you're saying Chicago gives up Sharp, Leddy and Shaw/prospect to get Kesler in return?
Please please please...never ever run my franchise!
Trow Tanav Chicago's way and maybe! - dsav123
I know ee hates back reading but this was in response to someone saying the ideal deal would be :
3 way trade Hawks get Kesler
Florida gets Sharp
Van gets #1 over all .
Vancouver would need more in return .
Maybe not as much as I listed but more forsure . |
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howiehandles
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Local sports radio suggests (just now) the canucks are asking the kesler camp to expand their list because the offers are not there, that’s where the real negotiations are right now. They want the #10 pick from Anaheim, who has apparently pulled it off the table. kesler won’t get traded if the offer isn’t there, they suggested Chicago’s interest is ‘lukewarm’. It’s up to kesler now, expand you list or see you in camp. - VanHockeyGuy
If the Kesler deal doesn't work out, there are other centers out there. While I prefer Kesler, I'm ok with any real centers to fill that spot. The bar isn't very high. |
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The morning show is terrible, I stopped listening when they changed up their cast. The took their regular morning guy (Scott Rintoul) and moved him to the graveyard shift. They brought in this tool, Bro Jake, who knows nothing about sports but tries to be entertaining. You definitely don't listen to 1040 is you want actual sports news. - DarthKane
But he's the champ!! |
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McNeil is too proud of his alcohol and drug issues, his rehab stints, and his gambling - it's like he thinks all of those things are somehow cool, "manly" things to do. Spiegel always seems to be saying things he just read or heard, especially about hockey - he has no analytical abilities.
Bernstein and Boers are - well - we know what they are.
Molly and Hanley have Chet Koppick diseases- they ask 20 minute questions that get 20 second answers.
Of course, it was even worse when they had North, Jiggets (fattest human this side of Aretha Franklin - if you can get around to this side) and Murphy.
I can't say there are any "personalities" on any of the sports talk stations that I look forward to listening to. - StLBravesFan
I agree, they are what they are........most of the time I listen it's for background noise....although as I told you before I enjoyed the Penn State commentary on the B and B show.
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