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VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
i know the weed is good in BC but really this early in the morning?
- SaskHawkFan


Wake and bake
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
If the Hawks can sign Toews and Kane and aquire Kesler the Convention will be rockin'!
- paulr


And if they can´t do any of those above mentioned it will be canceled!
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
And if they can´t do any of those above mentioned it will be canceled!
- MjulQvist

It may as well be .....
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
Thx Darth, not so sure about that but it is kind of ironic when some idiot tells me on Twitter last week that all the guys at the Score think I'm a fraud. I'll just keep doing what I do . . .
- John Jaeckel



The guys on the Score, do they even refer to hockey, outside of Zawaski? And really, what does he offer outside of what is readily available on the InterGoogle?
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
And let it sink in for Oiler fans why their team will continue to flounder.
- paulr


yeah, that's the big takeaway here.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:42 AM ET
And Ryan Callahan is getting paid 5.8 mil for the next few years.

Paul Stastny must be creaming himself imagining all of the cash he'll be lined up for come July

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
And Ryan Callahan is getting paid 5.8 mil for the next few years.

Paul Stastny must be creaming himself imagining all of the cash he'll be lined up for come July


- prd797

There is talk Toews and Kane may be in line for $11 to $12M per season each!
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
i know the weed is good in BC but really this early in the morning?
- SaskHawkFan





He love to stir the pot.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
And Ryan Callahan is getting paid 5.8 mil for the next few years.

Paul Stastny must be creaming himself imagining all of the cash he'll be lined up for come July


- prd797


Yeah, it's about to get pretty stupid in the NHL (not that it wasn't already). 5.8M for an 'energy' guy. I like Callahan, to an extent. He'd be a great 3rd liner on the Hawks, but holy hell...$5.8.
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
The guys on the Score, do they even refer to hockey, outside of Zawaski? And really, what does he offer outside of what is readily available on the InterGoogle?
- howiehandles


I "love" it when Bernstein talks hockey. He calls the Hawks fans stupid. Yet the score finally announces things such as "Sharp on the block" and "Hawks interested in Kesler" weeks or months after it had been discussed here.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:46 AM ET
There is talk Toews and Kane may be in line for $11 to $12M per season each!
- paulr


Ridiculous
furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
I "love" it when Bernstein talks hockey. He calls the Hawks fans stupid. Yet the score finally announces things such as "Sharp on the block" and "Hawks interested in Kesler" weeks or months after it had been discussed here.
- Tanuki


It's all part of his act and schtick
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
Kesler is a beast, whether it's Anaheim or Chicago he will put those teams over the top. That's a given. I think he deserves to go to a team that has a shot at a cup. Vancouver needs to get assets in return and rightfully should go for the best package. No team is going to steal Kesler, they might have with the last GM.
- VanHockeyGuy



Can you bring back Gilles then?
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
So the Hawks core includes who exactly ?

Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabs.

Seeing as how Hossa is 3 years older than Williams who was deemed too old for a core piece he certainly doesn't apply.

- golfingsince

Hoss is part of the core, at least for the next year or two. Add the stud shot blocker Niklas Hjalmarsson, and until he's traded; Patrick Sharp.

With what we hear about Saad being a lockdown, ain't gonna be moved guy, he's now part of the core.

So that's a couple Conn Smyth guys, a two-time Norris guy, his D-partner who enabled those Norris trophies, one of the top-3 two-way guys in the league the past several years, the pre-eminent shot blocker and PK'er and stud man-child whose true value won't be seen for 2-3 years. And we can't discount Sharp for his contribution to two cups. Now? He's expendable for the point being his cap hit will be used to secure a true 2C.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:48 AM ET
Yeah, it's about to get pretty stupid in the NHL (not that it wasn't already). 5.8M for an 'energy' guy. I like Callahan, to an extent. He'd be a great 3rd liner on the Hawks, but holy hell...$5.8.
- eburgio


Guy's been walking wounded for a while...tread's getting real thin. Then he gets paid at the same rate for less production?!

Absolutely idiotic.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
There is talk Toews and Kane may be in line for $11 to $12M per season each!
- paulr


I sure as hell hope not
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
i know the weed is good in BC but really this early in the morning?
- SaskHawkFan

Maybe that's where they are filming "Ted 2".
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
There is talk Toews and Kane may be in line for $11 to $12M per season each!
- paulr



blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
Nikita freakin' Nikitin makes more money than Hammer...

Just let that sink in for a second.

Deal keeps getting better every day

- prd797

That won't ever be on a good team. Marginal at best players only get paid on crappy teams. Those teams have to get to the floor and/or don't have a core worth a damn.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm having a REAL hard time here understanding why people refuse to include TT in a trade for Kesler. I saw some idiot responded on Scott Powers tweet that nhl will be taken hostage when he arrives. Dear god man, slap yourself.

Will TT be good? Who the hell knows. Will he be better then Saad? I don't think so and I would hope 99.9% of people here would keep Saad over Teuvo. And then you look at Saad....hes coming into his own but he's not a STAR yet. For all the hype this Teuvo kid gets, what has he done? IF he were that good...wouldn't the Hawks have kept him on the roster? Wouldn't this kid have NOT been sent home from his world team? Wouldn't he have made some impact in 3 games? When we saw 19/88 in 2007/08 you knew these kids would be damn good. I don't see that in Teuvo. Not superstar status, a solid NHL player? Maybe....but are you really going to wait on that and miss out on a HUGE chance to give yourself arguably the best 1-3 punch at center in regards to defense, and 2 top centers in regards to offense? All for what COULD BE?

I thought this organization had ONE goal, and that this farm system is so loaded it's bursting...so is Teuvo really going to haunt you and break you? NO, NO he isn't.

Package the kid. TODAY. Get the deal done and give yourself 48 hours to drive the price for Sharp up....Sign a veteran 4th line center. Move Shaw and Smith to Wings. Sign or get back a cheap, large bruising F who can play in the playoffs and you can roll 4 lines.

If they miss out on Kesler because of Teuvo this kid better not only make this team out of camp, he better put up 60+ points and be in contention for the calder to justify the blatant stupidity of playing a dangerous game of chicken.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
I'm having a REAL hard time here understanding why people refuse to include TT in a trade for Kesler. I saw some idiot responded on Scott Powers tweet that nhl will be taken hostage when he arrives. Dear god man, slap yourself.

Will TT be good? Who the hell knows. Will he be better then Saad? I don't think so and I would hope 99.9% of people here would keep Saad over Teuvo. And then you look at Saad....hes coming into his own but he's not a STAR yet. For all the hype this Teuvo kid gets, what has he done? IF he were that good...wouldn't the Hawks have kept him on the roster? Wouldn't this kid have NOT been sent home from his world team? Wouldn't he have made some impact in 3 games? When we saw 19/88 in 2007/08 you knew these kids would be damn good. I don't see that in Teuvo. Not superstar status, a solid NHL player? Maybe....but are you really going to wait on that and miss out on a HUGE chance to give yourself arguably the best 1-3 punch at center in regards to defense, and 2 top centers in regards to offense? All for what COULD BE?

I thought this organization had ONE goal, and that this farm system is so loaded it's bursting...so is Teuvo really going to haunt you and break you? NO, NO he isn't.

- SteveRain


IMO TT's upside is no higher than Nylander's and he could fall down to that 10 spot in the draft.
furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
I'm having a REAL hard time here understanding why people refuse to include TT in a trade for Kesler. I saw some idiot responded on Scott Powers tweet that nhl will be taken hostage when he arrives. Dear god man, slap yourself.

Will TT be good? Who the hell knows. Will he be better then Saad? I don't think so and I would hope 99.9% of people here would keep Saad over Teuvo. And then you look at Saad....hes coming into his own but he's not a STAR yet. For all the hype this Teuvo kid gets, what has he done? IF he were that good...wouldn't the Hawks have kept him on the roster? Wouldn't this kid have NOT been sent home from his world team? Wouldn't he have made some impact in 3 games? When we saw 19/88 in 2007/08 you knew these kids would be damn good. I don't see that in Teuvo. Not superstar status, a solid NHL player? Maybe....but are you really going to wait on that and miss out on a HUGE chance to give yourself arguably the best 1-3 punch at center in regards to defense, and 2 top centers in regards to offense? All for what COULD BE?

I thought this organization had ONE goal, and that this farm system is so loaded it's bursting...so is Teuvo really going to haunt you and break you? NO, NO he isn't.

Package the kid. TODAY. Get the deal done and give yourself 48 hours to drive the price for Sharp up....Sign a veteran 4th line center. Move Shaw and Smith to Wings. Sign or get back a cheap, large bruising F who can play in the playoffs and you can roll 4 lines.

If they miss out on Kesler because of Teuvo this kid better not only make this team out of camp, he better put up 60+ points and be in contention for the calder to justify the blatant stupidity of playing a dangerous game of chicken.

- SteveRain


I have zero qualms with including TT in this trade.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:57 AM ET
Here's the other dangerous idea....

You take Sharp and deal him to the EAST, get back another young proven NHL player with a decent cap hit and some picks and or prospects.

You take said young player and package him with Leddy and then you can keep your beloved Teuvo.

Again, that is a HUGE risk unless you know Vancouver will take that young player.

Huge 56 hours for this organization......I hope they keep One Goal in mind.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:57 AM ET
I'm having a REAL hard time here understanding why people refuse to include TT in a trade for Kesler. I saw some idiot responded on Scott Powers tweet that nhl will be taken hostage when he arrives. Dear god man, slap yourself.

Will TT be good? Who the hell knows. Will he be better then Saad? I don't think so and I would hope 99.9% of people here would keep Saad over Teuvo. And then you look at Saad....hes coming into his own but he's not a STAR yet. For all the hype this Teuvo kid gets, what has he done? IF he were that good...wouldn't the Hawks have kept him on the roster? Wouldn't this kid have NOT been sent home from his world team? Wouldn't he have made some impact in 3 games? When we saw 19/88 in 2007/08 you knew these kids would be damn good. I don't see that in Teuvo. Not superstar status, a solid NHL player? Maybe....but are you really going to wait on that and miss out on a HUGE chance to give yourself arguably the best 1-3 punch at center in regards to defense, and 2 top centers in regards to offense? All for what COULD BE?

I thought this organization had ONE goal, and that this farm system is so loaded it's bursting...so is Teuvo really going to haunt you and break you? NO, NO he isn't.

Package the kid. TODAY. Get the deal done and give yourself 48 hours to drive the price for Sharp up....Sign a veteran 4th line center. Move Shaw and Smith to Wings. Sign or get back a cheap, large bruising F who can play in the playoffs and you can roll 4 lines.

If they miss out on Kesler because of Teuvo this kid better not only make this team out of camp, he better put up 60+ points and be in contention for the calder to justify the blatant stupidity of playing a dangerous game of chicken.

- SteveRain

That just means the PR machine is doing its job Steve. That's all. If the Nux believe it and the 'Hawks can keep TT while still acquiring Kesler, it's all the better. If not, and the Kesler deal includes TT, fine too, at least by me. But we all know a Kesler deal is likely only one needed move. I highly doubt many players from each team are involved in a Kesler deal.

56 hours 'til the draft!
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
I "love" it when Bernstein talks hockey. He calls the Hawks fans stupid. Yet the score finally announces things such as "Sharp on the block" and "Hawks interested in Kesler" weeks or months after it had been discussed here.
- Tanuki



Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Score, but Berstein is just an actor. His mood depends on the partner of the day. With Rosner he's chill, but with Boers he likes to stir the pot, and play the contrarian role aka Marriotti. Ratings equals money. I enjoy Mully and Hanley though, and do like Rosner.
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