The thing I find very interesting is we could get ourselves a very good young player or draft pick for Sharp.

Lebrun:

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ading-the-pack-for-kesler

No Saad (obviously) no TT = No deal.
And no we don't need/want sharp.


The Ducks are going to get him, then eliminate you boys come next playoffs...
- Whiskey-Tango

Ladies and gentlemen please welcome a bitter Canucks fan!

I was the first to comment the first time... But I have no proof...
- PhilMeister89

I'll vouch to the fact that you were first.

Vancouver doesn't really have that much leverage because of Kesler's NTC.
- dan9189

The fact is, he has two years remaining. If we don't receive an offer that makes us better in both the short and long term we just don't deal him.

As simple as that.

Good point. Supply and demand.
- Bjm84

When I hear the Nucks are asking for Saad, then TT, this is what I think of...

Lebrun:

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ading-the-pack-for-kesler

No Saad (obviously) no TT = No deal.
And no we don't need/want sharp.


The Ducks are going to get him, then eliminate you boys come next playoffs...
- Whiskey-Tango

If the Canucks deal him to the Ducks, they are much more unwise than I first thought.

Not a bad idea, but I personally would rather have Shaw at the wing.
- Dannyboy

That would work if they manage to dump Versteeg somewhere. Otherwise there is no room on that 3rd line with Bickell dropping back down.

The fact is, he has two years remaining. If we don't receive an offer that makes us better in both the short and long term we just don't deal him.

As simple as that.
- Whiskey-Tango

I remember when Roberto Luongo had years left on his deal, wanted to be moved, and they didn't end up moving him... we all saw how that turned out....

Lebrun:

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ading-the-pack-for-kesler

No Saad (obviously) no TT = No deal.
And no we don't need/want sharp.


The Ducks are going to get him, then eliminate you boys come next playoffs...
- Whiskey-Tango

IMO...you can have TT, but I'd like the Hawks to keep Saad.

TT is still a prospect. Saad is the real deal.

IMO...you can have TT, but I'd like the Hawks to keep Saad.

TT is still a prospect. Saad is the real deal.
- ArlingtonRob

Saad isn't getting moved anywhere.

I'll vouch to the fact that you were first.
- EKolb13

Lebrun:

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ading-the-pack-for-kesler

No Saad (obviously) no TT = No deal.
And no we don't need/want sharp.


The Ducks are going to get him, then eliminate you boys come next playoffs...
- Whiskey-Tango

Which would be in the Western Conference Finals. I'll take those odds, especially against Boudreau.

IMO...you can have TT, but I'd like the Hawks to keep Saad.

TT is still a prospect. Saad is the real deal.
- ArlingtonRob

Truth Son

If Kesler was the only #2C on the market then maybe I'd consider including TT but he's not so if I'm the Hawks TT is not included. Even if the Hawks don't get Kesler, there are other guys available.
- dan9189

True. But as I've said before, the elephant in the room is #88 and his extension. Would he be happy playing with a Spezza or a Richards? If you get Kesler, you can go to Kane and say "I got your guy, I need your help with the cap now." Does he give you that discount if you bring in Spezza? Is Teuvo's future potential worth the risk of #88 leaving/being disgruntled if you are Stan?

If not Teuvo, what prospects are Vancouver wanting for one of their top 3 players? I'm stunned that we are still at the table after telling Vancouver "No" on Saad and Teuvo.
- DMCsPulledHammy

I was thinking the same thing. Who else could Vancouve want if the Hawks told them they cant have Saad or TT? No offense to some of the Hawks prospects (or their enamored admirers) but as far as young talent (that isnt part of the core/extended core) goes, there really isnt much to choose from.

I'll vouch to the fact that you were first.
- EKolb13

You can't do that. I was here but never complained about it.

Lebrun:

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ading-the-pack-for-kesler

No Saad (obviously) no TT = No deal.
And no we don't need/want sharp.


The Ducks are going to get him, then eliminate you boys come next playoffs...
- Whiskey-Tango

All negotiating 101 stuff here. Of course the Canucks are going to say that. And the teams on the other side are going to say, you're going to go into the season with another distraction on your hands with a player not wanting to be there like Luongo and how did that turn out?

He'll get dealt this weekend. As to where, who knows. If Vancouver had any brains, Anaheim would be the team that would pay a slight premium over anyone (PIT, CHI, whomever) as Vancouver is in the same division as them.

You can't do that. I was here but never complained about it.
- Canardhawk

I was sulking... not complaining... There is a difference..

I think the Hawks are in the driver seat here, and I think they know it. Vancouver doesn't want to trade with either team, but their hands are tied here with the NTC and Kesler's demand of a trade. The Canucks don't want to trade Kesler to Anaheim, making another tough team in their division even tougher. They also don't want to tick off their fanbase with a trade with the "hated" Blackhawks.

IMO...you can have TT, but I'd like the Hawks to keep Saad.

TT is still a prospect. Saad is the real deal.
- ArlingtonRob

Funny because it wasn't that long ago that Saad was just a prospect and included in some of the deals for 2C's proposed here.. I think this deal can be done without including TT (e.g. Leddy+ ____ + pick(s) for Kesler)

The fact is, he has two years remaining. If we don't receive an offer that makes us better in both the short and long term we just don't deal him.

As simple as that.
- Whiskey-Tango

Certainly an option. One downside, though, is that the shorter the remainder of his contract the less another team will give up to get him. As has been said about the Ducks, the most they were going to give was at the trade deadline last year when they had 2.5 years (three playoffs) left on his deal. Van won't get near as much a year from now, when there's only one playoff run on his deal. So the Canucks can keep him, but for what gain? A few extra points in the standings this year? I think he goes this summer, but not predicting where.

This tells you that Pittsburgh's offer was/is probably the worst of the three AND that they have strong preference not to trade Kesler to Anaheim who is in their division. It seems like the only reason the Hawks are still haggling.
- Bjm84

Agreed.

I was sulking... not complaining... There is a difference..
- PhilMeister89

Okay, what's your normal sulking period so we can be sensitive to your feelings?

Lebrun:

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ading-the-pack-for-kesler

No Saad (obviously) no TT = No deal.
And no we don't need/want sharp.

The Ducks are going to get him, then eliminate you boys come next playoffs...
- Whiskey-Tango

The Ducks have presented the best package from the standpoint of young players and they have the #10 pick.

I still have a feeling Pit will be heard from or someone from the East.

If the Hawks can move Sharp for a top 10 pick that may swing tide in their favor.

The Hawks are in, especially because the Ducks are same Division....But unless the demand for Kesler is much less than I imagined...I have a hunch teams in the East could still play a role.

It all depends on how much control Kesler has because I hear Anaheim is not among his first two choices.

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I was thinking the same thing. Who else could Vancouve want if the Hawks told them they can have Saad or TT? No offense to some of the Hawks prospects (or their enamored admirers) but as far as young talent (that isnt part of the core/extended core) goes, there really isnt much to choose from.
- BlazinMike

I'm assuming Benning would be asking the exact same question.

Regardless of anyone's thoughts regarding Kesler, he is undeniably a valuable asset.
Did he ask for a trade, yes....Do we have to move him at the expense of making our team worse, no.

These ideals of "leverage" and "no choice" are ludicrous. Any team that wants him will have to pay the correct amount...