I hope so. We have had some pretty good trade ideas around here. Hopefully they tell stan the ideas so we can improve the team
- tomcat24

Like moving Leddy.

Yeah that is the trade a lot of fans have brought up. I guess I can live with it even though kesler isn't my #1 choice. Then we can trade sharp for a good young player or 2 in a package
- tomcat24

I dont think that is Stan's offer. He doesn't like to trade young players , with a cheap entry contract, about to be nhl ready, to another team (unless they are about to be a waiver eligible player) so i doubt TT is going to be traded. I could see Leddy getting moved, only because he will demand more than the hawks can afford, next year. The. Sharp and or Bickell will be moved in the next two years, so that is the other piece. If they trade another player it would be a forward other that TT or a defender not named Johns or Dahlbeck.

Buffalo has nothing of value for Sharp. Aside from draft picks. And why would they give any up? Florida? Unless its Bjustad, there is nothing of value they have that I could see them moving.

Sharp for Eller is a bad trade for the Hawks. Leddy would be enough to get him.

Beaulieu fits the Hawks better than Tinordi, imo.
- Elbows15

Both teams want to improve right away. Both the #1 and #2 picks are in play. While they might not have a huge impact this year I think both ekblad and reinhart both play in the nhl this year. Sam bennett goes back to juniors I think. Sure none will have the impact of sharp to this team NOW but this is only if we can get another center somewhere else

I dont think that is Stan's offer. He doesn't like to trade young players , with a cheap entry contract, about to be nhl ready, to another team (unless they are about to be a waiver eligible player) so i doubt TT is going to be traded. I could see Leddy getting moved, only because he will demand more than the hawks can afford, next year. The. Sharp and or Bickell will be moved in the next two years, so that is the other piece. If they trade another player it would be a forward other that TT or a defender not named Johns or Dahlbeck.
- BearsnHawks

Kesler is the wet dream .

But I often think about "BIG" trades from when we were growing up , in all sports , the team trading the star never receives enough value . NEVER . Plus the fact that there are 3 #1 centers available , (Kesler , Stasny , and Spezza) teams that are trading these assets will get less of a return than if there was only one of them available.

The "2nd option" I see is Leddy for one of the Montreal centers .

This way Stan gets to keep Sharp and TT . We'll see.

Less than a week till draft day .....

Almost as funny as your apparent ability to read the minds of both Kesler and Benning.

JJ is posting based on a report that Kesler is limiting Benning to the Hawks and the Pens. What are you basing this Anaheim talk on? ESP? I would agree that they have better young assets to trade to the Nucks. That ignores JJs premise though that Ana was out.

Ever think Kesler may have a reason he will not go to Anaheim? It is a possibility.

Unlike the Nucks thread. All opinions welcome here.... At least lately.
- tredbrta

Extremely doubtful. The late night crew will soon pile on with their pseudo intellectual superior than all pile on. Follow that on with their shout on clever little gifs. And so it goes

Not up to Kesler to decide what a reasonable offer is. The point is an NTC is an agreement between a club and a player that they are committed to each other for the length of the contract. It provides stability for both. If all of a sudden the player decides to essentially break that commitment, then why should the team respect the player's wishes. The player is saying, I don't want to play for you any more and I'm going to tell you where I want to play. Call it a Gillis move if you want, but there is no need to submit to this player's demands. You don't go where we want to send you, then you don't play.
- bazz

Precedent for that was Dany Heatley who demanded a trade out of Ottawa then citing his NMC vetoed a trade to Edmonton.

I dont think that is Stan's offer. He doesn't like to trade young players , with a cheap entry contract, about to be nhl ready, to another team (unless they are about to be a waiver eligible player) so i doubt TT is going to be traded. I could see Leddy getting moved, only because he will demand more than the hawks can afford, next year. The. Sharp and or Bickell will be moved in the next two years, so that is the other piece. If they trade another player it would be a forward other that TT or a defender not named Johns or Dahlbeck.
- BearsnHawks

His way has always been just tinkering. This would be a huge move for him. I guess we will see soon. I see some movement around the draft. Let's see if the hawks are involved

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Islanders as a good fit for Sharp. From what I have read they are looking for a veteran guy with some term to play with Tavares and Okposo and they have a ton of cap space. Sharp fits that description perfectly and we have recently had dealings with them.

Extremely doubtful. The late night crew will soon pile on with their pseudo intellectual superior than all pile on. Follow that on with their shout on clever little gifs. And so it goes
- TexasFlood

Too much alcohol will do that sometimes.

Kesler is the wet dream .

But I often think about "BIG" trades from when we were growing up , in all sports , the team trading the star never receives enough value . NEVER . Plus the fact that there are 3 #1 centers available , (Kesler , Stasny , and Spezza) teams that are trading these assets will get less of a return than if there was only one of them available.

The "2nd option" I see is Leddy for one of the Montreal centers .

This way Stan gets to keep Sharp and TT . We'll see.

Less than a week till draft day .....
- mrpaulish

I am not expecting a big trade, Bowman doesn't usually do big things. Now if he can get a #2 center who checks a lot of things off of their want list i could see it happening but only if sharp or bickell are the things getting moved or it is a no brainer (I think he liked TT too much to move him). I do think Bickell and or Sharp could be moved in the next 1-2 years to make cap room to keep Toews and Kane.

Chilean why is very underrated. .......The only merlot I like is conn Creek. Try Raymond burr and hess
- UnnamedSource

Pinot Noir, preferably OR or French...no f'ing merlot!

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Islanders as a good fit for Sharp. From what I have read they are looking for a veteran guy with some term to play with Tavares and Okposo and they have a ton of cap space. Sharp fits that description perfectly and we have recently had dealings with them.
- Anaarkey

Sharp for Nielsen and Matt Martin.

Like moving Leddy.
- Elbows15

or getting Nielsen (or schenn)

Both teams want to improve right away. Both the #1 and #2 picks are in play. While they might not have a huge impact this year I think both ekblad and reinhart both play in the nhl this year. Sam bennett goes back to juniors I think. Sure none will have the impact of sharp to this team NOW but this is only if we can get another center somewhere else
- tomcat24

Buffalo isn't moving any picks, TC. Not for a 32 yr old. And not with 2-3 potential franchise players in the 2015 draft. Which Bennett, Ekblad or Reinhart are not.

And Florida isn't going to move out of the top ten in this draft.

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Islanders as a good fit for Sharp. From what I have read they are looking for a veteran guy with some term to play with Tavares and Okposo and they have a ton of cap space. Sharp fits that description perfectly and we have recently had dealings with them.
- Anaarkey

I in ink they could be if we sign statsny. Sharp and or Bickell will need to be moved. Islanders have young prospects and good assets the Hawks would want. I also think many teams would want a top 6 forward with 30+ goals from the previous season with a cap hit higher than what you have to pay him. I think he is a player many teams would want. He should be in high demand and the Hawks should ask for quality in return for him.

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Islanders as a good fit for Sharp. From what I have read they are looking for a veteran guy with some term to play with Tavares and Okposo and they have a ton of cap space. Sharp fits that description perfectly and we have recently had dealings with them.
- Anaarkey

Islanders are definitely a good fit and that #5 pick is definitely in play. People have been talking about trading for frans Nielsen for awhile

Sharp for Nielsen and Matt Martin.
- jhawk159

I think hawks would ask for more considering Nielson was below 50% at the dot and both were negative in the +/-

Too much alcohol will do that sometimes.


- jhawk159

Bless you as well

Buffalo isn't moving any picks, TC. Not for a 32 yr old. And not with 2-3 potential franchise players in the 2015 draft. Which Bennett, Ekblad or Reinhart are not.

And Florida isn't going to move out of the top ten in this draft.
- Elbows15

Quit pissing on my corn flakes yeah sharp alone was never going to do it. And sharp wouldn't be the one to trade for that. I think TT and something else can entice them a little. I think either GM would be happy leaving with TT. I'm not sure who will be better among TT, reinhart, or Bennett? And TT going 18th instead of top 3 shouldn't be an answer to that. And ekblad would be a nice d-man to have

Buffalo isn't moving any picks, TC. Not for a 32 yr old. And not with 2-3 potential franchise players in the 2015 draft. Which Bennett, Ekblad or Reinhart are not.

And Florida isn't going to move out of the top ten in this draft.
- Elbows15

I agree with the buffalo statement but not the Florida statement. There is getting to be some pressure on dale to produce another playoff team in Florida. I think he would trade for a quality top 6 forward that knows how to win, i think he trades next years pick though (which could be top 5 in a great draft class) and maybe a solid prospect or two.

I in ink they could be if we sign statsny. Sharp and or Bickell will need to be moved. Islanders have young prospects and good assets the Hawks would want. I also think many teams would want a top 6 forward with 30+ goals from the previous season with a cap hit higher than what you have to pay him. I think he is a player many teams would want. He should be in high demand and the Hawks should ask for quality in return for him.
- BearsnHawks

I know there are a number here that think this or feel that his underwhelming performance in the regular season justifies moving him because of his cap hit, but I totally disagree.

Most of us have been complaining about the lack of size, depth and centers contributing to the Hawks downfall vs the Kings in the playoffs. You don't achieve that by subtracting the one player with size that was hitting pretty much everything in a black sweater.

Bickell may not have scored much in that series but he was pretty effective in the the first 2. If the Hawks have some more sizable forwards toward the end of his contract I could see them parting ways but right now I disagree that he is who the Hawks should be looking to get rid of.

Also, where the hell has Phil been?

I in ink they could be if we sign statsny. Sharp and or Bickell will need to be moved. Islanders have young prospects and good assets the Hawks would want. I also think many teams would want a top 6 forward with 30+ goals from the previous season with a cap hit higher than what you have to pay him. I think he is a player many teams would want. He should be in high demand and the Hawks should ask for quality in return for him.
- BearsnHawks

People need to keep in kind that Sharp will be 33 in December, and has 3years left on his contract.

Unless a lottery team wants an expensive role model, or is having floor problems, Sharp has to be the/a last piece in a championship line-up - and why would Sharp approve a deal to a non-competitive team?

I think hawks would ask for more considering Nielson was below 50% at the dot and both were negative in the +/-
- BearsnHawks

The good thing about Sharp for Nielsen and Martin aside from getting a 2C and a gritty winger is that the Hawks would also save 2.2 mil in cap space. Maybe they get NYI to throw in a 2nd or 3rd round pick and maybe it would work. Then they can use the cap savings to help sign Toews and Kane.

Quit pissing on my corn flakes yeah sharp alone was never going to do it. And sharp wouldn't be the one to trade for that. I think TT and something else can entice them a little. I think either GM would be happy leaving with TT. I'm not sure who will be better among TT, reinhart, or Bennett? And TT going 18th instead of top 3 shouldn't be an answer to that. And ekblad would be a nice d-man to have
- tomcat24

Why would an undersize player entice them? Think about it. Both teams had a chance to draft TT and didn't. For a reason.

They are going to draft players who fit the system they want to play.

Van fan here
You bet make the trade

Judging by lots of the response Chicago fans agree
- The_Kuze

I agree that would TT, Leddy and a pick would be fair and maybe even a deal in VC's favor. It would create a greater cap problem for the Hawks.

BUT...

Vantel was told by Benning that Anaheim's offer is better. Bob Murray later confirmed this to Vantel via the bat phone.

No deal.