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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:00 AM ET
LA had Matt Greene in the lineup.
- MJL



If the rest of your players are good possession players, and you have a coach that relies on tactics that optimize possession, you can afford to carry one or more of Greene/Mitchell/Regehr at a time.

As a Flyers fan, I take some solace in that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:00 AM ET
Playing 3rd pairing minutes making less than the Kings top 4 guys
- Winning



So they aren't being discontinued, just playing less minutes and being paid less then the top defenseman? So I'll ask what is new and what's changed?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:01 AM ET
How do you win 2/3 cups?
- BulliesPhan87


Not sure, BUT I BET THEY'LL FIGURE OUT HOW THAT WORKS WITH WORLD CUP FUTBOL!!!
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
The Grossmann debate? Again?


Can we move on already? Please?

- hereticpride



Lauren Hart Sux!
Fat Guy Dancing Blows!
Jim Jackson Is TERRIBLE!
Cotsey sober?
Carter and richards with another cup? pew pew pew....
Rinaldo Belongs on the Fourth Line in the AHL!
Our Goal song Sux!
Wonder if there are new Jerseys next year?
Winter classic with the Caps? Rather it be with the pens!
Phantoms in allentown YEY!
The seats color hue is off @ WFC! NEEDS MORE RED...BLOOD OF OUR ENEMIES
World cup MURICA MURECA MURICA...
To Corsi or not to Corsi or to Fewick the Corsi! I dont know but Corsi says to stay away because corsi's possession numbers are horrible when he plays with Fenwick.
Phillies suck!
I hate the eagles!
Sixers #tankNation
Cataldi is a moron!
Cant remember his name but the dude thats on wip with the black guy at noon is a douche!
The Cuz Sucks....
Best place to eat in philly?
Crosby sux.
Neal is a cheap shot artist.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:04 AM ET
So they aren't being discontinued, just playing less minutes and being paid less then the top defenseman? So I'll ask what is knew and what's changed?
- MJL

Slowly they're
Wingers getting faster every year. Nhl is being played at a faster pace which makes it more exciting . Grossmann type players will be useless in 5 years .
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:06 AM ET
Would anybody like the Flyers to make offers to Brian Boyle and Pouliot say, 3 year deals . Boyle is one of those " shot blockers" and plays a physical game while Pouliot can provide speed and grit. I would rather have Boyle than Rinaldo

Getting rid of VL and Hartnell would help.

But I would be happy if Hextall just upgrades the D .
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:07 AM ET
I think Barbashev is my new favorite to take @ 17:




Good skater, fantastic passer, strong possession player, not afraid to venture into traffic, no worries about cultural adjustment, really high upside.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
Would anybody like the Flyers to make offers to Brian Boyle and Pouliot say, 3 year deals . Boyle is one of those " shot blockers" and plays a physical game while Pouliot can provide speed and grit. I would rather have Boyle than Rinaldo

Getting rid of VL and Hartnell would help.

But I would be happy if Hextall just upgrades the D .

- 3flyerkids


One or the other. Preferably Pouliot because of his speed and natural position.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
Anthony Mingioni ‏@AnthonyMingioni 1h
Per @SportsnetSpec, former #Flyers/#Phantoms forward Ben Eager is KHL bound.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:18 AM ET
Slowly they're
Wingers getting faster every year. Nhl is being played at a faster pace which makes it more exciting . Grossmann type players will be useless in 5 years .

- Winning

Enforcers and fighting should be gone by now because it was predicted they'd be gone by now five years ago.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:18 AM ET
LA had Matt Greene in the lineup.
- MJL


When you have Drew Doughty in the lineup you can have Matt Greene playing third pairing minutes. Who's the Flyers version of Doughty?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:18 AM ET
I don't love Grossmann as much as some, but my thing is this: He's not the biggest problem on the roster.

They lost to the Rags because they didn't have the ability to score at even strength -- and yes, I totally believe an elite defenseman can help,that, but come on -- the biggest need for this team is make sure they have forwards who can out the puck in the net, generate offense at even strength, against GOOD teams.

That is not to say the Flyers can't score goals -- they can. But they need to be a little better at even strength against those top 6-8 teams in the league. And i think they can be, with smart purchases in free agency -- I mean, seriously. They can ABSOLUTELY improve the fourth line. They can get a two-way winger for the third line.

These are things they can do that will help them immediately.

- AllInForFlyers

Good post!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Anthony Mingioni ‏@AnthonyMingioni 1h
Per @SportsnetSpec, former #Flyers/#Phantoms forward Ben Eager is KHL bound.

- PhillySportsGuy


Um....ok?

Good for him I guess.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
One or the other. Preferably Pouliot because of his speed and natural position.
- PhillySportsGuy



There's a natural tendency to fall in love with guys we see a lot of because their teams made the Finals, but I think they get really overrated in the process.

I don't want to get stuck paying average/above-average guys like Kopecky, Burish, Ference, Scuderi, Ryder a premium based on how well their teams did.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Um....ok?

Good for him I guess.

- MBFlyerfan


We need him
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think Barbashev is my new favorite to take @ 17:




Good skater, fantastic passer, strong possession player, not afraid to venture into traffic, no worries about cultural adjustment, really high upside.


- Tomahawk


A Russian forward? Probably not going to happen. Wasn't thrilled with what I saw from Barbashev in the WJC, but obviously a small sample.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
There's a natural tendency to fall in love with guys we see a lot of because their teams made the Finals, but I think they get really overrated in the process.

I don't want to get stuck paying average/above-average guys like Kopecky, Burish, Ference, Ryder a premium based on how well their teams did.

- Tomahawk


I don't really want Boyle. He's a solid 4th line player. Flyers don't have a need for another checking line center.

Pouliot is a solid, two-way player with speed. I wouldn't pay more than $2M for him. If he want's more then let him sign somewhere else.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
When you have Drew Doughty in the lineup you can have Matt Greene playing third pairing minutes. Who's the Flyers version of Doughty?
- PLindbergh31

The Flyers have 6 guys capable of playing in the top 4.

No need for a Doughty.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
I don't really want Boyle. He's a solid 4th line player. Flyers don't have a need for another checking line center.

Pouliot is a solid, two-way player with speed. I wouldn't pay more than $2M for him. If he want's more then let him sign somewhere else.

- PhillySportsGuy


I think Boyle is going to get a pretty decent sized offer from someone to play in their top 9.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
Slowly they're
Wingers getting faster every year. Nhl is being played at a faster pace which makes it more exciting . Grossmann type players will be useless in 5 years .

- Winning

Whew, then you must be glad his contract is up in 2.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
If the rest of your players are good possession players, and you have a coach that relies on tactics that optimize possession, you can afford to carry one or more of Greene/Mitchell/Regehr at a time.

As a Flyers fan, I take some solace in that.

- Tomahawk

Me too.

Now we just need a Doughty/Muzzin/Voynov and we'll be good to go!
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
We need him
- PhillySportsGuy

I heard there were already rumors of him being flipped to the Kloten Flyers of the Swiss league for Jim Vandermeer.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
The Flyers have 6 guys capable of playing in the top 4.

No need for a Doughty.

- jak521





Well, they DO have 6 legitimate NHL defensemen. Something more than a few teams do NOT.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
I think Boyle is going to get a pretty decent sized offer from someone to play in their top 9.
- PLindbergh31


He's this year's Gaustad. People will overpay, then realize they just paid $3M for a guy who doesn't score.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
Me too.

Now we just need a Doughty/Muzzin/Voynov/Martinez and we'll be good to go!

- Marc D


Fixed
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