LMFAO 3 years at $10 million for a 0.8-0.9 ppg career player? Even if he was overpaid at 5per with the Oil... 3.33 a year for a UFA?

I suppose there's the scintillating nightlife of Ottawa during the winter to lure him in with.



- BigDre

And you guys couldnt move him out fast enough,20 good games doesnt warrant what he wants .We were never gonna sign him

How realistic would it be for Josi to come back. I've only seen a bit of him, but really liked what I saw.
- david22

Speaking about wingers ,wasnt there something about our scouts watching Pouliot closley during the rags run??

LMFAO 3 years at $10 million for a 0.8-0.9 ppg career player? Even if he was overpaid at 5per with the Oil... 3.33 a year for a UFA?

I suppose there's the scintillating nightlife of Ottawa during the winter to lure him in with.



- BigDre

Says the guy from Edmonton.

Says the guy from Edmonton.
- sensarmy_11

Same thought crossed my mind

Same thought crossed my mind
- david22

Edm got two worthless picks, and had to retain salary to get rid of the guy, and the oil fan is trolling cuz ottawa didn't give him 5.5 and term, based on a good 20 games.

And you guys couldnt move him out fast enough,20 good games doesnt warrant what he wants .We were never gonna sign him

- top shelf 15

Sorry, but why trade for him in the first place? If this was truly a 15 game audition (and make no mistake, he was excellent while here), why make such a poor attempt to re-sign him?

If we never intended to re-sign him, why give up assets?

Decisions like this make me sick - so short sighted and we are generating a ton of ill-will among both fans and players. This is spiraling quickly and I'm afraid of what is happening here.

Still think is the better option is to shop Hemsky's rights along with Spezza. In order to do that this week you had to end off the discussions. Note, the info around this suggests Ottawa will try to deal his rights. The team that deals for his rights will likely be a leDing contender for Spezza. Nashville and Anahiem are in great shape to deal for both.

Sorry, but why trade for him in the first place? If this was truly a 15 game audition (and make no mistake, he was excellent while here), why make such a poor attempt to re-sign him?

If we never intended to re-sign him, why give up assets?

Decisions like this make me sick - so short sighted and we are generating a ton of ill-will among both fans and players. This is spiraling quickly and I'm afraid of what is happening here.
- sensano

I will tell you a good reason for getting Hemsky. It energized Spezza. He looked great.

Still think is the better option is to shop Hemsky's rights along with Spezza. In order to do that this week you had to end off the discussions. Note, the info around this suggests Ottawa will try to deal his rights. The team that deals for his rights will likely be a leDing contender for Spezza. Nashville and Anahiem are in great shape to deal for both.
- spatso

You've got to think that packaging DaCosta and Hemsky's rights adds at least a LITTLE value to any trade scenario. Instead, Ottawa somehow leaks that Hemsky is not going to re-sign and leaks that we're not going to give DaCosta a one-way. We basically burn up any potential value there. These things happen a lot around here and completely blow my mind. Even if the value of those two pieces is MINIMAL, it might make the difference in getting a piece we really like in return for Spezza.

Sorry, but why trade for him in the first place? If this was truly a 15 game audition (and make no mistake, he was excellent while here), why make such a poor attempt to re-sign him?

If we never intended to re-sign him, why give up assets?

Decisions like this make me sick - so short sighted and we are generating a ton of ill-will among both fans and players. This is spiraling quickly and I'm afraid of what is happening here.
- sensano

Last gasp at a playoff spot.Look i dont like the rumblings of a floor budget.But iam gonna wait and see where we are after this offseason is over

Sorry, but why trade for him in the first place? If this was truly a 15 game audition (and make no mistake, he was excellent while here), why make such a poor attempt to re-sign him?

If we never intended to re-sign him, why give up assets?

Decisions like this make me sick - so short sighted and we are generating a ton of ill-will among both fans and players. This is spiraling quickly and I'm afraid of what is happening here.
- sensano

They brought him in to play with spezza. At the time, I'm sure the decision to move spezza wasn't made. If they had kept spezza, I'm sure the offer to hemsky would have been better.

Now that the decision to move spezza has been made, there isn't much point in keeping hemsky.......and more importantly, overpaying to keep him. Sorry, but hemsky isn't worth 5.5..........20 good games, following 3-4 mediocre seasons (regardless of the "Edmonton factor") doesn't earn him that contract, imo

You've got to think that packaging DaCosta and Hemsky's rights adds at least a LITTLE value to any trade scenario. Instead, Ottawa somehow leaks that Hemsky is not going to re-sign and leaks that we're not going to give DaCosta a one-way. We basically burn up any potential value there. These things happen a lot around here and completely blow my mind. Even if the value of those two pieces is MINIMAL, it might make the difference in getting a piece we really like in return for Spezza.
- sensano

If by this you mean nothing then,you are correct.GM,s arent stupid nobody is going to give anything for a small french center that couldnt crack our lineup,add to this Hemsky,s 5.5 mil salary demands mean that very few good team will be looking at him either

You've got to think that packaging DaCosta and Hemsky's rights adds at least a LITTLE value to any trade scenario. Instead, Ottawa somehow leaks that Hemsky is not going to re-sign and leaks that we're not going to give DaCosta a one-way. We basically burn up any potential value there. These things happen a lot around here and completely blow my mind. Even if the value of those two pieces is MINIMAL, it might make the difference in getting a piece we really like in return for Spezza.
- sensano

Rights are worth nothing. Adding both players rights maybe gets you a late pick......and they're usually conditional picks, so if the player doesn't re-sign, you get nothing.

It's a non-issue.

Ottawa gave up mediocre assets to get him, he played well for 20 games, and helped ottawa improve in the standings, so that first we gave up wasn't the 5th or 6th pick. IMO, that alone was worth it

Last gasp at a playoff spot.Look i dont like the rumblings of a floor budget.But iam gonna wait and see where we are after this offseason is over
- top shelf 15

I don't buy the playoff spot push. Look at the standings when that trade was made.

I DO buy that he was brought in to play with Spezza - it's a good point. That said, he would look good on most players' wings and I'm confident he could easily play with Ziba or Turris. I like that we're giving our young guys a chance to play - don't get me wrong, but I think having a talented guy like Hemsky will not hurt the team at all.

Also, I'm not saying he's worth 5.5mil. Just think he's worth more than 3.3

I don't buy the playoff spot push. Look at the standings when that trade was made.

I DO buy that he was brought in to play with Spezza - it's a good point. That said, he would look good on most players' wings and I'm confident he could easily play with Ziba or Turris. I like that we're giving our young guys a chance to play - don't get me wrong, but I think having a talented guy like Hemsky will not hurt the team at all.

Also, I'm not saying he's worth 5.5mil. Just think he's worth more than 3.3
- sensano

Maybe we did it to keep that pick from becoming a top 5 one.You need to look at our team in depth after Spezza is gone .If the rumors are true about us getting a good two way center back that can hit for 40 points,and another decent winger with the same kind of numbers .We become a potential good 4 line team .

Even with moderate growth on our blueline and up front we could be back in the playoffs

I don't buy the playoff spot push. Look at the standings when that trade was made.

I DO buy that he was brought in to play with Spezza - it's a good point. That said, he would look good on most players' wings and I'm confident he could easily play with Ziba or Turris. I like that we're giving our young guys a chance to play - don't get me wrong, but I think having a talented guy like Hemsky will not hurt the team at all.

Also, I'm not saying he's worth 5.5mil. Just think he's worth more than 3.3
- sensano

He's not worth 5.5, but he supposedly asked for 5.5. That tells me that he either didn't want to sign here, or wanted to be overpaid to play here. Either way, I don't really care that he won't be back.

If anybody tries to say this is not about money, they are lying. It is always about money. But that is not bad.

He's not worth 5.5, but he supposedly asked for 5.5. That tells me that he either didn't want to sign here, or wanted to be overpaid to play here. Either way, I don't really care that he won't be back.
- sensarmy_11

Decosta will center Filitov

Maybe we did it to keep that pick from becoming a top 5 one.You need to look at our team in depth after Spezza is gone .If the rumors are true about us getting a good two way center back that can hit for 40 points,and another decent winger with the same kind of numbers .We become a potential good 4 line team .

Even with moderate growth on our blueline and up front we could be back in the playoffs

- top shelf 15

This can be a very good team very quickly.

Decosta will center Filitov
- top shelf 15

Daugavins?

This can be a very good team very quickly.
- spatso

Rumors of Berglund /Stewart/Pouliot etc .Makes me believe that Lazar ,s line is being made for him

Daugavins?
- sensarmy_11

Thats one deadly trio.....in the ahl

So hemsky has a great 20 games and we pay him 5.5 mil a season on a long term deal???I dont like EM ,but no way would i pay hemsky that.Zibby,Stone ,Lazar deserve their chance to play If we reign michalek,and trade for a Berglund type center plus a few pieces for spezza.We are in pretty good shape up front
- top shelf 15

Exactly, how much are you willing to pony up for this stat line:


2009-10 Edmonton Oilers NHL 22 7 15 22 8 7 -- -- -- -- --
2010-11 Edmonton Oilers NHL 47 14 28 42 18 3 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Edmonton Oilers NHL 69 10 26 36 43 -13 -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Pardubice HC Czech 27 14 18 32 52 5 -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Edmonton Oilers NHL 38 9 11 20 16 -6 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Edmonton Oilers NHL 55 9 17 26 20 -13 -- -- -- --
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2013-14 Ottawa Senators NHL 20 4 13 17 4 -2 -- -- -- -- --


That certainly seems more 3.3 mil versus 5.5

Once the news that Spezza requested a trade, it was obvious Hemsky would not resign with the Sens. I still think Jason Spezza will be playing for one these five teams next fall: Anaheim, Dallas, Nashville, NYR or St.Louis.

If anybody tries to say this is not about money, they are lying. It is always about money. But that is not bad.
- spatso

It should be about the money.