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hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 10 @ 10:26 AM ET
40 ?
- WaterBoy

That is more than 39, correct.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 10:26 AM ET
if he scores 39 goals every year i'll be quite content
- DoubleDown

Send him out for more empty net attempts and he'll keep doing it!

He should counsel Nash.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 10 @ 10:26 AM ET
Send him out for more empty net attempts and he'll keep doing it!

He should counsel Nash.

- AdamFrench

Hahahahaha!!! Good one AdamFrench!!
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:27 AM ET
Ah. You can tell what his effort level is. Love that.
- hscesq


To some degree, yes. I can't presume to say he doesn't care...or that he's not focused or paying attention... but effort is easier to see out there...


DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:27 AM ET
Tired of this "size and physicality" narrative.

The Kings are not winning because they are grinding. They are winning because they are a skilled team that can break out of their zone, enter the offensive zone with the puck and shoot more often then their opponents.

It's not Regehr, Green, Mitchell, Brown and Richards that make this team.

It's Doughty, Kopitar, Carter, Williams, Toffoli and Gaborik.

- DrRecchi


and of those players, which are under 6 feet? which of those players get physically dominated? that's the point. these guys are skilled, yes, but they have the size to maintain possession of the puck when getting attacked by defenders, and the size to gain position in the slot and in front of the net. size and physicality is not just about crashing the boards and being aggressive, it's about being able to withstand that kind of stuff. that's what makes LA so good, is that they can do both.
Pea-Brain
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Dubastown
Joined: 09.28.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
That is more than 39, correct.
- hscesq

Hahahahaha!!! Good one hscesq, referee!!
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jun 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
I agree.

As long as Plekanec and DD will be there, there is no spot available for Galchenyuk at center.

One of those two has to go. DD wouldn't bring much. But a borderline selke nominee would.

- soad_live


The idea that Desharnais wouldn't net something good in a trade is completely, completely false.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
Send him out for more empty net attempts and he'll keep doing it!

He should counsel Nash.

- AdamFrench


well if he's scoring that many empty netters, that stands to reason that Montreal is winning a lot of games.

nice burn though!
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
I'm not convinced, but if he does, it's not the end of the world.
- EricEngels

Loosing the 2nd best D on this team will be a hard blow.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
The idea that Desharnais wouldn't net something good in a trade is completely, completely false.
- EricEngels


i don't see the point in trading him. he's a good player. Gionta, Briere, Bouillon... gotta go. just have to.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
Hahahahaha!!! Good one AdamFrench!!
- hscesq

Howard you're forced to watch NBC hockey coverage, can you tell me who the hell that poopty annoying announcer is and why he uses the term "Saché'd the puck" all the time?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
well if he's scoring that many empty netters, that stands to reason that Montreal is winning a lot of games.

nice burn though!

- DoubleDown

You guys won a lot of games.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:31 AM ET
That is more than 39, correct.
- hscesq

How predictable you are.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:31 AM ET
Loosing the 2nd best D on this team will be a hard blow.
- WaterBoy


yeah it's a step back but sometimes you have to move on from players who still have something in the tank.
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Jun 10 @ 10:31 AM ET
The idea that Desharnais wouldn't net something good in a trade is completely, completely false.
- EricEngels


Alone??

I don't think we get more than a 2nd or a B prospect.
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jun 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
if he scores 39 goals every year i'll be quite content
- DoubleDown


in his first playoff experience, he separated his shoulder in game 2.
in his second, he struggled with his confidence quite a bit. he put a bit too much pressure on himself to be the guy, knowing that he was the guy. it's a lot to handle for someone who doesn't have experience. I know people will say, well, that's what defines made to play in the playoffs or not, but I think this is just another stepping stone of adversity for him. I'd bet he's great in his next playoffs.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
i don't see the point in trading him. he's a good player. Gionta, Briere, Bouillon... gotta go. just have to.
- DoubleDown

And he's great for PAtches.

3,5M is a very good price for what he can offer
Puckers
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
The idea that Desharnais wouldn't net something good in a trade is completely, completely false.
- EricEngels


Based on your size arguement, would the Habs not be better served trading DD for whatever value he has and going with 27, 81, 14 down the middle?
habs12
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cole Harbour, NS
Joined: 04.29.2008

Jun 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
How many empty netters?

-Martin Vallé

- Fredobbface

GWG-11-1st
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:33 AM ET
You guys won a lot of games.
- AdamFrench


which is why i'm quite content with Pacioretty. though i'm seemingly alone in that sentiment... but no i think it's good that we're slowly running him out of town. i don't think that guy is crazy about playing here to be honest. he makes a lot comments about the criticism he gets in Montreal.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
yeah it's a step back but sometimes you have to move on from players who still have something in the tank.
- DoubleDown

I have no issues with keeping Markov a couple of more years.

Now if you wanna talk about moving on from players... Gorges ?
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jun 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
Alone??

I don't think we get more than a 2nd or a B prospect.

- soad_live


Not intended to be a slight to you, but it doesn't matter what you think.
He's almost a ppg player, he's got great hockey sense, and his compete level was tremendous in the playoffs. He's got a cap-friendly contract. There are more than a few teams who could use him -- especially those who are paying too much for players who do less.

On his own, he could definitely fetch an excellent prospect, or even a 1st round pick. Packaged, as he's likely to be if he's traded, who knows...
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
which is why i'm quite content with Pacioretty. though i'm seemingly alone in that sentiment... but no i think it's good that we're slowly running him out of town. i don't think that guy is crazy about playing here to be honest. he makes a lot comments about the criticism he gets in Montreal.
- DoubleDown


Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 10:35 AM ET
which is why i'm quite content with Pacioretty. though i'm seemingly alone in that sentiment... but no i think it's good that we're slowly running him out of town. i don't think that guy is crazy about playing here to be honest. he makes a lot comments about the criticism he gets in Montreal.
- DoubleDown

Sounds like he would really love Florida.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:35 AM ET
in his first playoff experience, he separated his shoulder in game 2.
in his second, he struggled with his confidence quite a bit. he put a bit too much pressure on himself to be the guy, knowing that he was the guy. it's a lot to handle for someone who doesn't have experience. I know people will say, well, that's what defines made to play in the playoffs or not, but I think this is just another stepping stone of adversity for him. I'd bet he's great in his next playoffs.

- EricEngels


will never understand why Vanek wasn't re-united with him and DD in the NY series.
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