Please god no I'd rather have vokoun back healthy Marty is nothing but a below average goalie now.

Why do we not hear much about re-signing Niskanen? Has he made it loud and clear he is testing the market? Or is this just something that hasn't been addressed due to the management changes taking priority?
- Jeropotato

Rumor is he is seeking a James Wisnewski type deal ( 6 years / 5.5 - 6 million per). They dont have the cap to resign him and address their needs at forward. (unless Letang is traded, again for those that want to trade him.. the Pens would be selling low.. better to keep him at this point)

On Jeff Zatkoff: we watch 70 plus Pens games a year... the kid played well overall (except the florida game) 12 6 could be "an aberration". But, 2.60 GAA and a .912 Save percentage are solid numbers for any NHL back up. I get it, he s not a big name, he is a solid backup. The question is Fleury... Trade him or no...

On James Neal: He s a sniper that's 26 years old. Among the league leaders in PPG and a solid winger for either Malkin or Crosby. He also has a nice cap number, so unless Wheeler or Kane is coming back... why move him??

We appear to be watching different players.
- Yeti1181

Kris Letang is better than Yandle. Letang hits. He scored 3 more goals than Yandle in almost 50 game less. Yandle was -23 playing in defense first system.

Rumor is he is seeking a James Wisnewski type deal ( 6 years / 5.5 - 6 million per). They dont have the cap to resign him and address their needs at forward. (unless Letang is traded, again for those that want to trade him.. the Pens would be selling low.. better to keep him at this point)

On Jeff Zatkoff: we watch 70 plus Pens games a year... the kid played well overall (except the florida game) 12 6 could be "an aberration". But, 2.60 GAA and a .912 Save percentage are solid numbers for any NHL back up. I get it, he s not a big name, he is a solid backup. The question is Fleury... Trade him or no...

On James Neal: He s a sniper that's 26 years old. Among the league leaders in PPG and a solid winger for either Malkin or Crosby. He also has a nice cap number, so unless Wheeler or Kane is coming back... why move him??
- Brianandr1

You move Neal because as we've seen when his centers get hounded in the playoffs he has no ability to create for himself which leads to terrible performances.

You move Neal because as we've seen when his centers get hounded in the playoffs he has no ability to create for himself which leads to terrible performances.
- Genev21

This is a bit of an overreaction and scapegoating!!! They lost to the Rags because Hank stood on his head in games 6 and 7. Two years ago he had 10 points in 13 playoff games and 3 years ago he had 6 points in 5 games. We re basing this off how he played against the Rangers/ Columbus? 1 or 2 Series? Based on this logic we should also move Crosby and Malkin as they also had a rough go in this season's playoffs. I get it, the Pens need to shake things up... and maybe that means moving Neal among others... but only for equal value, not making moves to make them. Pens are closer to a cup then not making the playoffs, but it can flip with one or 2 bad moves... ask the Canucks

Aren't Pens fans constantly complaining about not having competent winger for Crosby and or Malkin? Now you want to trade your best winger because he can't win a game on his own?

Aren't Pens fans constantly complaining about not having competent winger for Crosby and or Malkin? Now you want to trade your best winger because he can't win a game on his own?
- sbroads24

It's because he kneed Rat Marchand's head.

Hahaha. ... To little to late

He needs to just retire and keep the little dignity he has left in check....
- Iggysbff

Agreed.

This is a bit of an overreaction and scapegoating!!!
- Brianandr1

wrong. he's exactly right. Neal doesn't create plays for others or create his own shot when needed. He has a great shot, but heavily relies on the 2 all-star centers. If they can get a nice return, I'd trade him.

This is a bit of an overreaction and scapegoating!!! They lost to the Rags because Hank stood on his head in games 6 and 7. Two years ago he had 10 points in 13 playoff games and 3 years ago he had 6 points in 5 games. We re basing this off how he played against the Rangers/ Columbus? 1 or 2 Series? Based on this logic we should also move Crosby and Malkin as they also had a rough go in this season's playoffs. I get it, the Pens need to shake things up... and maybe that means moving Neal among others... but only for equal value, not making moves to make them. Pens are closer to a cup then not making the playoffs, but it can flip with one or 2 bad moves... ask the Canucks
- Brianandr1

They lost to the rags cause the team has no heart, and their goalie sucked,

Brodeur wil not help Pittsburgh. He was a below average goalie in NJ last year; however, when he had a string of starts he was decent because he is at his best when he gets a large workload and gets into a rhythm. He will not get enough starts (nor should he) to be effective in Pittsburgh. Brodeur may have a decent season on a team in which he is the starter. At this point in his career that will be hard to find. And even harder to find a contender that will allow him to start. Brodeur should retire and become assistant GM in NJ to eventually replace Lou.

Aren't Pens fans constantly complaining about not having competent winger for Crosby and or Malkin? Now you want to trade your best winger because he can't win a game on his own?
- sbroads24

their "best" winger isn't the best winger for this team. They need a guy that does more than shoot. - see Justin Williams as a prime example. He not only scored a goal, but made a great play on the Doughty goal. Neal is either scoring or taking bad penalties. He perfectly fits the image of this immature/mentally-fragile team, which is why they're better off with a change.

wrong. he's exactly right. Neal doesn't create plays for others or create his own shot when needed. He has a great shot, but heavily relies on the 2 all-star centers. If they can get a nice return, I'd trade him.
- MartysBetter88

Fair enough... but can you fill me in on one little detail... outside of the top guys (wingers) kane, kessel, ovie, hall, Jagr (younger) et... who does? Guys like Kunitz, Sharp, Neal are solid 20 goal scorers without a very good/great center. 30-40 goals with... that's a bad thing? I just don't get it???

Yeah, this will be good for his confidence!

They lost to the rags cause the team has no heart, and their goalie sucked,
- 77emac77

No heart is fair enough, but It was Fleury's fault? Wow... Are you delusional?

They lost to the rags cause the team has no heart, and their goalie sucked,
- 77emac77

MAF wasn't the reason they lost to the Rangers. When you score a total of three goals in the last three games what do you want the goalie to do?

their "best" winger isn't the best winger for this team. They need a guy that does more than shoot. - see Justin Williams as a prime example. He not only scored a goal, but made a great play on the Doughty goal. Neal is either scoring or taking bad penalties. He perfectly fits the image of this immature/mentally-fragile team, which is why they're better off with a change.
- MartysBetter88

Neal is a 35-40 goal scoring winger. He doesn't need to be Justin Williams. He's better than him.
The Pens need depth. Period end of story. Remember last season when Toews couldn't score to save his life? Or this year when Kopitar went scoreless through the Hawks series. People want to blame the star players, there's a reason Shero was let go and Crosby will stay

please no marty.

letang is alot better than most of you give him credit. not only is he pretty darn good on defense but his offinsive skills keep the puck out of his end. imo he is right up there in the top 5 in the league. yes he did have a stroke. but that can happen to anyone at any givin time.

neal? i would move him. the team is fragile and even if its just rumors about him wantin to leave, at this point he can no longer help the team. he needs a fresh start anyways. he has developed a rep as a dirty player, true or not, he needs to be moved.

Question? if we moved orpik and scuds would that not leave enough for niskanin?

their "best" winger isn't the best winger for this team. They need a guy that does more than shoot. - see Justin Williams as a prime example. He not only scored a goal, but made a great play on the Doughty goal. Neal is either scoring or taking bad penalties. He perfectly fits the image of this immature/mentally-fragile team, which is why they're better off with a change.
- MartysBetter88

Kings also have Gaborik. He 's not Neal like? (one dimensional) ... Seams like sacpegoating to blame one player.
Player's that deserve the blame most are Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Kunitz, Adams...et (had to throw him in there lol) and Neal... along with the coach...

MAF wasn't the reason they lost to the Rangers. When you score a total of three goals in the last three games what do you want the goalie to do?
- acdc1206

He obviously did not watch games 5,6, and 7 as his team was also going down in flames.

NO idea but it be good for the Oilers too at least take a flyer on him.
- Yeti1181

5 million dollar flyer eh?

Neal is a 35-40 goal scoring winger. He doesn't need to be Justin Williams. He's better than him.
The Pens need depth. Period end of story. Remember last season when Toews couldn't score to save his life? Or this year when Kopitar went scoreless through the Hawks series. People want to blame the star players, there's a reason Shero was let go and Crosby will stay
- sbroads24

First time we agree on something sbroads24... Plus he's 26 year's old and signed to a reasonable contract. I'm a die hard Pens fan, but we're spoiled... Pens don't need to trade Neal to add grit and heart... I'd be very happy signing a guy like Steve Ott as and URF... at the right price lol

All of this said... if Neal + a prospect gets the Pens Kesler in listening... changes everything though... 3 center model is a very "Shero" like philosophy... Kesler would have to be ok with playing wing.

The market is so inflated for defensive players that some team out there will give Niskanen 6+mil. If he wants to test the market I am almost positive a team in desperate need of a defensemen will over pay for him.

I don't get the arguement that just because if Marty comes, that means MAF should be dealt. Marty is just a backup. That's it. Fleury is your starter. Besides who would you get to start should he(Fleury) be moved? Hiller? Apparently Anaheim didn't think too much of him as he barely sniffed the post season this year.

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