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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 8:51 PM ET
Take Vinny, please.
- ob18


Just curious on your thoughts about Brandon Alderson being a darkhouse candidate to make the roster as Bill mentioned in his blog. I'm assuming you've seen him play a decent amount on SSM. He looks to fit the physical profile Hexy would be looking for in his wingers. I'm wondering if he could develop into a Dwight King or Kyle Clifford type of forward. Bottom 6 forward with a little offensive scoring punch and generally defensively solid.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
Just curious on your thoughts about Brandon Alderson being a darkhouse candidate to make the roster as Bill mentioned in his blog. I'm assuming you've seen him play a decent amount on SSM. He looks to fit the physical profile Hexy would be looking for in his wingers. I'm wondering if he could develop into a Dwight King or Kyle Clifford type of forward. Bottom 6 forward with a little offensive scoring punch and generally defensively solid.
- ravishingone


Always a chance, see how he does in camp and if he runs with the chance.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:13 PM ET
TSN reports Kesler wants out of Vancouver and Philly and Anaheim are the front runners per Darren Dreger

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=454191
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:16 PM ET
Darren Dreger: Ryan Kesler hasn't changed his mind. He wants a fresh start and to move on from Vancouver; he met with Benning earlier this week to talk about that. It's believed that Kesler still has six teams on his list that he's willing to be traded to. And we think that Philadelphia and Anaheim are among those.

Pierre LeBrun: The asking price remains high, as it should for a guy that only has a $5 million cap hit for two more years. The Canucks don't just want futures here, they want a player that can help them now, preferably a centre.

B. Schenn plus ?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:17 PM ET
TSN reports Kesler wants out of Vancouver and Philly and Anaheim are the front runners per Darren Dreger

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=454191

- Chris48

1. Thank you for using only 1 s in his name.

2. No, please no, unless the Canucks eat 2 million in exchange for a 2nd rounder
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:18 PM ET
Darren Dreger: Ryan Kesler hasn't changed his mind. He wants a fresh start and to move on from Vancouver; he met with Benning earlier this week to talk about that. It's believed that Kesler still has six teams on his list that he's willing to be traded to. And we think that Philadelphia and Anaheim are among those.

Pierre LeBrun: The asking price remains high, as it should for a guy that only has a $5 million cap hit for two more years. The Canucks don't just want futures here, they want a player that can help them now, preferably a centre.

B. Schenn plus ?

- Chris48

So help me god if Hextall trades Schenn and picks for Ryan (frank)ing Kesler I'll drag him by his well groomed goatee and throw him into the Schuylkill.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:19 PM ET
TSN reports Kesler wants out of Vancouver and Philly and Anaheim are the front runners per Darren Dreger

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=454191

- Chris48

Nowhere does he say Flyers and Ducks are front runners. Just teams on Kesler's list. For all we know neither team could have any interest in him.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:19 PM ET
Nowhere does he say Flyers and Ducks are front runners. Just teams on Kesler's list. For all we know neither team has any interest in him.
- hereticpride

Also, this
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:20 PM ET
Nowhere does he say Flyers and Ducks are front runners. Just teams on Kesler's list. For all we know neither team could have any interest in him.
- hereticpride



Out of 6 possible teams on his trade list, they name Flyers and Ducks.... why is that ...???

jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 6 @ 9:21 PM ET
So help me god if Hextall trades Schenn and picks for Ryan (frank)ing Kesler I'll drag him by his well groomed goatee and throw him into the Schuylkill.
- Giroux_Is_God



He's no good?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 6 @ 9:22 PM ET
Out of 6 possible teams on his trade list, they name Flyers and Ducks.... why is that ...???
- Chris48

Because they think those are 2 of the 6?

Is this a trick question?
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:22 PM ET
Nowhere does he say Flyers and Ducks are front runners. Just teams on Kesler's list. For all we know neither team could have any interest in him.
- hereticpride



offer sheet for Kesler .... who was it again you ?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 6 @ 9:22 PM ET
He's no good?
- jstross

He's not Brayden Schenn and high picks good. No way. Especially on this team with too many centers already
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 6 @ 9:22 PM ET
offer sheet for Kesler .... who was it again you douche ?
- Chris48

lol b&

also that was in 2006. That would be 8 seasons ago.

So, since they threw an OS at him almost a decade ago, the Flyers still, 8 years later, are a lock to push hard for him.

Cool
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:24 PM ET
Nowhere does he say Flyers and Ducks are front runners. Just teams on Kesler's list. For all we know neither team could have any interest in him.
- hereticpride



Telling you Dude, freaking Annihilists
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 6 @ 9:24 PM ET
He's not Brayden Schenn and high picks good. No way. Especially on this team with too many centers already
- Giroux_Is_God



Fair enough. I don't want to chase winning now to be honest.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:26 PM ET
He's not Brayden Schenn and high picks good. No way. Especially on this team with too many centers already
- Giroux_Is_God



True, but if we can trade Vinny for picks to whoever and Schenn for Kesler and they retain some salary, maybe I guess
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:28 PM ET


Good lord.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
I don't doubt the Canucks would have interest in B. Schenn. However, I feel this situation is very similar to Howson trying to trade Nash. He kept calling Homer, but he wasn't willing to budge on Schenn and Coots.

The organization has a lot invested in Coots and B. Schenn. I would find it suprising if they trade them when both are just entering their primes and will be cost effective in regards to salary for the next 3-4 years at least.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:31 PM ET
Fair enough. I don't want to chase winning now to be honest.
- jstross

I mean, that's sort of what I meant...

This whole "winning now" thing is funny to me. Like what does that mean? You (the general you, that is) don't want the team to address needs? You (there it is- that general you again) want them to just twiddle their thumbs until some draft pick pans out?

Personally, I want them to take a look at ways to improve the team, but not break the bank by compromising the future (or part of the future). This is why I liked the Streit and AMac deals.

Which is why I'm against sending Schenn and picks out to the Jets for Buff. And pretty much why I'm against sending Schenn out at all.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:32 PM ET
True, but if we can trade Vinny for picks to whoever and Schenn for Kesler and they retain some salary, maybe I guess
- Chris48

Yup still gonna say no to that one
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:33 PM ET
I don't doubt the Canucks would have interest in B. Schenn. However, I feel this situation is very similar to Howson trying to trade Nash. He kept calling Homer, but he wasn't willing to budge on Schenn and Coots.

The organization has a lot invested in Coots and B. Schenn. I would find it suprising if they trade them when both are just entering their primes and will be cost effective in regards to salary for the next 3-4 years at least.

- ravishingone

jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 6 @ 9:35 PM ET
I mean, that's sort of what I meant...

This whole "winning now" thing is funny to me. Like what does that mean? You (the general you, that is) don't want the team to address needs? You (there it is- that general you again) want them to just twiddle their thumbs until some draft pick pans out?

Personally, I want them to take a look at ways to improve the team, but not break the bank by compromising the future (or part of the future). This is why I liked the Streit and AMac deals.

Which is why I'm against sending Schenn and picks out to the Jets for Buff. And pretty much why I'm against sending Schenn out at all.

- Giroux_Is_God


I hear yah. I'm not trading young players and picks unless it's for a young Dman or young stud left winger.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 6 @ 9:35 PM ET
Yup still gonna say no to that one
- Giroux_Is_God


How about Vinny and second, LOL. I should amend this. If they would take vinny back and Vinny would waive I'd throw in some future picks if we can't traded Vinny.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:36 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


I don't think it can be understated, that B. Schenn was the key piece in the Richards deal at the time. Sure, Simmonds has exceeded expectations. Also, Hexy was in the draft room when he was drafted, and stated his number one priority is to resign him this summer.

If Clarke was the GM, I would be worried about this rumor. With Hexy in charge, not so much.
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