I think we are starting to get off topic here...

Kimmo Timonen has a Philly Cheese Steak franchise possibility as part of his retirement deal from the Flyers. Will it be any good, and are we gonna get a stand in Console?
- Guile

Just a little piece on FLA, EDM and a few other teams that could be very active on June 30th in Philadelphia.
http://www.usatoday.com/s...raft-day-outlook/9336765/

Just a little piece on FLA, EDM and a few other teams that could be very active on June 30th in Philadelphia.
http://www.usatoday.com/s...raft-day-outlook/9336765/
- HopintheCordoba

I'll be there, should be interesting.

I've stated several times on these message boards...

I believe Shero signed Letang to an above-market contract (Karlsson is getting 6.5..very similar players plus Karl has a Norris) with the following in mind:

1. He gave Letang a few extra dollars to have him waive a full NTC and go with a limited NTC.

2. Shero was buying himself some time. If any of the young D looked great this training camp and/or into the season (Pouliot, Harrington, Doumolin), he would then move Letang. If not, he just planned to keep him.

3. Also was buying himself some time to see if he can extend Martin. If not, he would likely keep Letang.

Basically, he was protecting his asset.

Since Shero is no longer aboard, it will be interesting to see what the new GM will do.

I could see the Sharks making a pitch for Niskanen, however I really hope we don't sign him unless the price is around 5 mil. Even at that kind of caphit, I wouldn't want the deal to run for more than 3 years. And that kind of contract probably won't be enough to land him on the open market.

I've stated several times on these message boards...

I believe Shero signed Letang to an above-market contract (Karlsson is getting 6.5..very similar players plus Karl has a Norris) with the following in mind:

1. He gave Letang a few extra dollars to have him waive a full NTC and go with a limited NTC.

2. Shero was buying himself some time. If any of the young D looked great this training camp and/or into the season (Pouliot, Harrington, Doumolin), he would then move Letang. If not, he just planned to keep him.

3. Also was buying himself some time to see if he can extend Martin. If not, he would likely keep Letang.

Basically, he was protecting his asset.

Since Shero is no longer aboard, it will be interesting to see what the new GM will do.
- 87_71_11_29

Absolutely agree. I'd even add a little "allowed" to do in there. I'm sure ownership will be very, very involved in decisions over the next few months.

I could see the Sharks making a pitch for Niskanen, however I really hope we don't sign him unless the price is around 5 mil. Even at that kind of caphit, I wouldn't want the deal to run for more than 3 years. And that kind of contract probably won't be enough to land him on the open market.
- sjsharks92

Let's start by trading you guys his rights. It'll work out better than the TK move. Promise!

I've stated several times on these message boards...

I believe Shero signed Letang to an above-market contract (Karlsson is getting 6.5..very similar players plus Karl has a Norris) with the following in mind:

1. He gave Letang a few extra dollars to have him waive a full NTC and go with a limited NTC.

2. Shero was buying himself some time. If any of the young D looked great this training camp and/or into the season (Pouliot, Harrington, Doumolin), he would then move Letang. If not, he just planned to keep him.

3. Also was buying himself some time to see if he can extend Martin. If not, he would likely keep Letang.

Basically, he was protecting his asset.

Since Shero is no longer aboard, it will be interesting to see what the new GM will do.
- 87_71_11_29

Karlsson wasn't on his pending UFA contract

I'll be there, should be interesting.
- BulliesPhan87

If Carolina trades Eric Staal, I'm going to be pissed.

Jordan bails on us to go play with big bro. 2 years in, big bro gets moved.

I think we miss Staal more than most folks realize.

Let's start by trading you guys his rights. It'll work out better than the TK move. Promise!

- HopintheCordoba

Hahaha ya really. I have to say I wasn't opposed to that move when I heard about it. A 2nd round pick was a steep price, but I did feel TK could work well in San Jose. Guess not

Hahaha ya really. I have to say I wasn't opposed to that move when I heard about it. A 2nd round pick was a steep price, but I did feel TK could work well in San Jose. Guess not
- sjsharks92

He may not have had a great year but at no point should he have been playing behind Mike Brown, Havlat either.

Karlsson wasn't on his pending UFA contract
- Ryan_Wilson

Meaning what?

Didn't Karlsson sign his just right before Letang? Could be wrong...

That to me was the barometer...6.5.

When they announced 7+, I was very surprised.

If Carolina trades Eric Staal, I'm going to be pissed.

Jordan bails on us to go play with big bro. 2 years in, big bro gets moved.

I think we miss Staal more than most folks realize.
- 87_71_11_29

I'll take Sutter. I've been happy with his numbers compared to Staal's since the trade. Not saying Staal wouldn't be better off with the Penguins. But it's just time to move on. He got the $6M per year deal. We don't need that. Glad he didn't sign. Pouliot, Dumoulin and Sutter are worth it.

Hahaha ya really. I have to say I wasn't opposed to that move when I heard about it. A 2nd round pick was a steep price, but I did feel TK could work well in San Jose. Guess not
- sjsharks92

It was probably just a little friendly payback for the Murray deal. At least that's what I think anyway.

Meaning what?

Didn't Karlsson sign his just right before Letang? Could be wrong...

That to me was the barometer...6.5.

When they announced 7+, I was very surprised.
- 87_71_11_29

Leverage. If Karlsson was a pending UFA he would have gotten closer to 7.5 or 8.0. Just watch the Subban situation play out.

He may not have had a great year but at no point should he have been playing behind Mike Brown, Havlat either.
- Ryan_Wilson

Brown was playing well though for a time. And when you're paying Havlat 5 mil, you wanna make him at least play for it.

Leverage. If Karlsson was a pending UFA he would have gotten closer to 7.5 or 8.0. Just watch the Subban situation play out.
- Ryan_Wilson

Yeah it's easy to complain about the money the further back you go. Cap is going to keeo going and going for a few years before it settles.

Leverage. If Karlsson was a pending UFA he would have gotten closer to 7.5 or 8.0. Just watch the Subban situation play out.
- Ryan_Wilson

So you're saying you think Subban will get in the 7.5 to 8.0 mil range?

So you're saying you think Subban will get in the 7.5 to 8.0 mil range?
- sjsharks92

Very likely, I'd be shocked if at just 7 mil or less.

So you're saying you think Subban will get in the 7.5 to 8.0 mil range?
- sjsharks92

Not sure what Ryan thinks...but I do. Montreal doesn't have anyone else that can do what he does right now. Especially with an aging core and Diaz gone. That's the going rate these days. Waiting for the lengthy deal has paid off.

Leverage. If Karlsson was a pending UFA he would have gotten closer to 7.5 or 8.0. Just watch the Subban situation play out.
- Ryan_Wilson

Ok gotcha. Just clarifying.

Tanger had a year left though so I don't think Shero had a gun to his head. I think he would have moved him if things turned ugly.

And I agree on Subban. He may be in the 9's...

I'll take Sutter. I've been happy with his numbers compared to Staal's since the trade. Not saying Staal wouldn't be better off with the Penguins. But it's just time to move on. He got the $6M per year deal. We don't need that. Glad he didn't sign. Pouliot, Dumoulin and Sutter are worth it.
- HopintheCordoba

I'm wondering if Sutter now thinks he's a 4.5-5 million guy after this postseason.

I wasn't thrilled with Staal at 6 mill either but he's just the kind of dude you win with.

Ryan Wilson: Who Is Going To Overpay Matt Niskanen?
Who Is Going To Overpay Matt Niskanen?
- Ryan_Wilson

The title should be 'Ryan Wilson: Who Is Going To Overpay James Neal?'

So you're saying you think Subban will get in the 7.5 to 8.0 mil range?
- sjsharks92

100%. He has a better chance at 8.5M than he does below 7M

Any thoughts on the following:

Neal + Niskanen rights + 1st <-> EDM Eberle + 1st