Does anyone know what ever happened to user name bearinforest?
- jmatchett383

((frank)ing horrendous book btw)

Totally unrelated, but this "honor killing" in Pakistan is seriously sickening. All involved should be beaten to within an inch of their life every day for the rest of their lives, and it STILL isn't a horrible enough punishment for what they did.

We gain speed, but lose a lot of grit. Power forwards are needed in this league. can't afford to trade both Hartnell and Simmonds.
- MJL

No offense but hartnells a wussy. Simmer isn't really that physical. He is a beast in front of the net but I don't consider him a true power forward. Maybe a hybrid power forward. Point taken though. ActuLly if you think about it we could use some true power forward ala Tom Wilson. Just another thing to add to the list

I could see Ghost and Hagg possibly handling what Streit/MacDonald do in 3 years. Morin's probably 5 years out from being an impact player, though.
- jmatchett383

I don't. Who says they are even on the NHL Roster in 3 years? Ghost may or may not make the team this year, if he doesn't and makes it the next season you are expecting a sophomore Dman to be playing top 2 mins. Hagg will not make the team this year and may not next year as well. 3 years could be his rookie season, definitely isn't playing top 4 mins.

How does everyone feel about what should be done to the current blue-line this summer?

IMO, Nicklas Grossman must be traded if you want to sign what could be coined a "significant" free agent (i.e, someone we are paying roughly his salary or greater too in terms of a cap hit). The only other dman I would consider trading is Coburn, and it would have to be a deal that immediately makes the team better. As for signing Kimmo Timonen, if he wants more than 4 mill it's a no go for me. That's if he wants to play, and ideally I would try and get him closer to 3. I'd feel better about paying him 4 or even 4.5 mill if we do in fact trade Grossman.

You could also keep Grossman, not resign Kimmo, and allocate whatever available money left for a FA defensemen. That would be about all we do in FA though, as we would have little wiggle room to do much else. Your relying on filling other needs internally.

If we were to trade Coburn, we would almost have to sign a player like Anton Stralman, Ron Hainsey, or Kyle Quincey (for me, it's in that order and interest diminishes significantly after Stralman)

Personally, I want Grossman gone. You don't need him and Luke Schenn on the roster; Luke is a better player right now and he's younger. If you can get a roster player for him, great. If not, deal him for picks. Even if you have to eat some salary. My #1 FA target is Anton Stralman. Not sure exactly what he could realistically command in FA, but obviously nothing more than 4.5 million. I don't think you need an even 3-3 split in left and right handed dmen, but Schenn is our only righty right now. Stralman is a solid defensive player and is much more skilled than Grossman.

If we can sign him, I'm ok with not resigning Kimmo. I think if we can sign Stralman for between 3.5-4 mill, we could also find a way to keep Kimmo. I'm also assuming more than one big contract could be moved, as in Hartnell or Lecavlier in addition to Grossman.

I like macd but not for 5 mil/ 5years. And not as our 1 or 1adman unless it we have a stud like weber. I know that ain't happening but you get the point.
- Sms401

amac is an above average second pair guy. thats what they cost nowadays though.

now, people can make the mistake they did with coburn with him and expect him to be something hes not. but thats their issue then, not his.

No offense but hartnells a wussy. Simmer isn't really that physical. He is a beast in front of the net but I don't consider him a true power forward. Maybe a hybrid power forward. Point taken though. ActuLly if you think about it we could use some true power forward ala Tom Wilson. Just another thing to add to the list
- Sms401

This must be a hoax.

Does anyone know what ever happened to user name bearinforest?
- jmatchett383

Bryz killed him

No offense but hartnells a wussy. Simmer isn't really that physical. He is a beast in front of the net but I don't consider him a true power forward. Maybe a hybrid power forward. Point taken though. ActuLly if you think about it we could use some true power forward ala Tom Wilson. Just another thing to add to the list
- Sms401

simmonds is one of the first names that comes to mind when i think power forward.

No offense but hartnells a wussy. Simmer isn't really that physical. He is a beast in front of the net but I don't consider him a true power forward. Maybe a hybrid power forward. Point taken though. ActuLly if you think about it we could use some true power forward ala Tom Wilson. Just another thing to add to the list
- Sms401

The same Tom Wilson who had 3 goals in 82 games while playing fewer minutes per game than Chris VandeVelde?

Not sure I'd call Wilson a true power forward yet.

I don't. Who says they are even on the NHL Roster in 3 years? Ghost may or may not make the team this year, if he doesn't and makes it the next season you are expecting a sophomore Dman to be playing top 2 mins. Hagg will not make the team this year and may not next year as well. 3 years could be his rookie season, definitely isn't playing top 4 mins.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

No one's saying they definitely will/won't. Just my personal take. And I'm expecting them to play top-4 minutes, not top-2.

amac is an above average second pair guy. thats what they cost nowadays though.

now, people can make the mistake they did with coburn with him and expect him to be something hes not. but thats their issue then, not his.
- stayinthefnnet

I'd say he's a 2nd pair guy, won't give you above average.

FYI, Eberle's more handsy than speedy... like Akeson.
- Tomahawk

yeah, but he has very good hands. i still think id do a letang for eberle deal.

yeah, but he has very good hands. i still think id do a letang for eberle deal.
- stayinthefnnet

I would if I was the Pens...I don't like Letang's mental vacations that much

I'd say he's a 2nd pair guy, won't give you above average.
- Jsaquella

fair enough haha. its a fine line between above average second pair guy and then just being a first pairing guy. that usually depends on the team makeup anyway.

my point being, amac is a fine addition. you need guys like that on your team. no, hes not a number one.

but one shea weber at 5 danny syvret isnt going to get you far either.

yeah, but he has very good hands. i still think id do a letang for eberle deal.
- stayinthefnnet

Eberle will score you 20 highlight reel goals a year, but may only score 30 total.

This must be a hoax.
- Tomahawk

Hoax why?

The same Tom Wilson who had 3 goals in 82 games while playing fewer minutes per game than Chris VandeVelde?

Not sure I'd call Wilson a true power forward yet.
- Jsaquella

I'd call him a Tom Sestito w/ upside.... so I guess that makes him an aspiring Zack Kassian.

I'd call him a Tom Sestito w/ upside.... so I guess that makes him an aspiring Zack Kassian.
- Tomahawk

As aspiring Zack Kassian could be a young Sandy McCarthy.

simmonds is one of the first names that comes to mind when i think power forward.
- stayinthefnnet

Lucic Wilson

Lucic Wilson
- Sms401

Jon Scott

fair enough haha. its a fine line between above average second pair guy and then just being a first pairing guy. that usually depends on the team makeup anyway.

my point being, amac is a fine addition. you need guys like that on your team. no, hes not a number one.

but one shea weber at 5 danny syvret isnt going to get you far either.
- stayinthefnnet

My issue with MacDonald is, I think you could have found similar level player for less money and or term. I might be wrong, but I think a guy like Stralman can do what AMac does, and probably comes in for less money & years.

Today I learned Simmonds is not a power forward

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I'd call him a Tom Sestito w/ upside.... so I guess that makes him an aspiring Zack Kassian.
- Tomahawk

There possible upside, sure. I think Caps made a mistake keeping him up & using him like they did

Today I learned Simmonds is not a power forward

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- Giroux_Is_God

And Hartnell is a "wussy."