Yep. I like all of those guys, but B. Schenn was almost as highly touted as them in his draft year
- Jsaquella

Schenns were overhyped Toronto area family name prospects. That's becoming very appearrant. Luke was supposed to be stud #1 dman and Brayden was supposed to be even better by the time he was Luke's age. Time has shown that not to be true. They still are decent players but time will tell. I think bennet/ Reinhardt/ekblad will all turn out much better than the schenn bro

Schenns were overhyped Toronto area family name prospects. That's becoming very appearrant. Luke was supposed to be stud #1 dman and Brayden was supposed to be even better by the time he was Luke's age. Time has shown that not to be true. They still are decent players but time will tell. I think bennet/ Reinhardt/ekblad will all turn out much better than the schenn bro
- Sms401

Schenns hail from Saskatoon... and Brayden's pretty much right on track despite what most fans will tell you. Better line mates and the 2nd-pp meriting more than 15-30secs per penalty and he'd probably already be a 60-pt player.

Wow. I threw out two meaningful topics but you guys would rather dream of the Flyers finding a partner who's willing to take on a larger hit in dead cap space...

It has to count against the Cap. It's still money paid to a player, and needs to count agianst the players share.
- MJL

You're telling me what the rules are. I already know the rules.

I was asserting that the rule is stupid.

At that point the Flyers can pay him the salary he would have received, the other team gets the cap hit and zero expense in terms of real dollars and the Flyers get more off season cap room to play with over the limit.
- Jsaquella

You think he'd stay with the Flyers opposed to Anaheim (where he won a Cup), St. Louis (where he won a Hart and was captain for a number of years), or somewhere closer to where he grew up (Toronto???)?

It has to count against the Cap. It's still money paid to a player, and needs to count agianst the players share.
- MJL

I think insurance would cover it??? Or most of it salary wise

Schenns hail from Saskatoon... and Brayden's pretty much right on track despite what most fans will tell you. Better line mates and the 2nd-pp meriting more than 15-30secs per penalty and he'd probably already be a 60-pt player.
- Tomahawk

From a non-numbers perspective, it's be nice to see him win a big face off now and again and be a little tougher in board/puck battles.

But, yeah, he's 22.

I think insurance would cover it??? Or most of it salary wise
- Sms401

Accounting-wise, insurance would cover it.

Schenns were overhyped Toronto area family name prospects. That's becoming very appearrant. Luke was supposed to be stud #1 dman and Brayden was supposed to be even better by the time he was Luke's age. Time has shown that not to be true. They still are decent players but time will tell. I think bennet/ Reinhardt/ekblad will all turn out much better than the schenn bro
- Sms401

I'm gonna come out and say that Brayden will be better than Luke by the time he's Luke's age.

In other words, it can never happen.

You think he'd stay with the Flyers opposed to Anaheim (where he won a Cup), St. Louis (where he won a Hart and was captain for a number of years), or somewhere closer to where he grew up (Toronto???)?
- jmatchett383

I think Pronger and his family have already moved back to St. Louis.

The whole sham is mind-bendingly stupid.

From a non-numbers perspective, it's be nice to see him win a big face off now and again and be a little tougher in board/puck battles.

But, yeah, he's 22.
- johndewar

FO% statistically improves with age, so hopefully he follows that trend.

FO% statistically improves with age, so hopefully he follows that trend.
- Tomahawk

Yup, agreed.

Schenns hail from Saskatoon... and Brayden's pretty much right on track despite what most fans will tell you. Better line mates and the 2nd-pp meriting more than 15-30secs per penalty and he'd probably already be a 60-pt player.
- Tomahawk

I agree. Not that I'm comparing Brayden Schenn to Mike Richards but Richards was manning the point on the top PP unit by his third season as a Flyer, and leading the team in points because of this with larger roles on the team. Brayden needs a bigger role in my opinion. I think he should at least be killing penalties regularly. And so I ask, what type of player is Brayden Schenn exactly? Is he a two way forward? I don't find him to be that great defensively as a center five on five. Is he a sniper? Not consistent enough with scoring. Playmaker? Nope! Keep in mind that I love this kid and see his potential to be a solid NHL player someday but what is he suppose to be?

FO% statistically improves with age, so hopefully he follows that trend.
- Tomahawk

Probably has to do with growth and upper-body strength...and experience.

Yep. I like all of those guys, but B. Schenn was almost as highly touted as them in his draft year
- Jsaquella

And b schenn wasn't even close to being as highly tauted as the big 3 that year. It was clearly Tavares hedman ducshene.

Schenns hail from Saskatoon..
- Tomahawk

That's right next to Toronto, right?

Wow. I threw out two meaningful topics but you guys would rather dream of the Flyers finding a partner who's willing to take on a larger hit in dead cap space...
- SuperSchennBros

Well, that's debatable

Well, that's debatable
- PhillySportsGuy

So let's debate it, guy with hurt feelings.

The cap is hurt when you sign guys to replace L.Schenn & Simmonds.

Also how are those guys better than Schenn? The junior success they had might not translate to the NHL right away.
- Jsaquella

Read replaces simmonds on 2nd line. Getting a 3rd line winger isn't expensive and filling a #6 dman also isn't expensive.

I agree. Not that I'm comparing Brayden Schenn to Mike Richards but Richards was manning the point on the top PP unit by his third season as a Flyer, and leading the team in points because of this with larger roles on the team. Brayden needs a better role in my opinion. I think he should at least be killing penalties regularly. And so I ask, what type of player is Brayden Schenn exactly? Is he a two way forward? I don't find him to be that great defensively as a center five on five. Is he a sniper? Not consistent enough with scoring. Playmaker? Nope! Keep in mind that I love this kid and see his potential to be a solid NHL player someday but what is he suppose to be?
- SuperSchennBros

What type of player is John Tavares?

Anyone think Jake Virtanen from the Hitmen could drop to the Flyers at 17 since he suffered the shoulder injury. If he did would you pick him or think it too big of a risk. Could be a steal once healthy at 17

And b schenn wasn't even close to being as highly tauted as the big 3 that year. It was clearly Tavares hedman ducshene.
- Sms401

Still better than former #4 overall Thomas Hickey, taken 2 years earlier.

Yeah, there are very few players in the league that can out-produce multiple good players.

Eberle isn't one of them... and the kids from this draft are more on a Turris/JvR timetable than a Kane.
- Tomahawk

We had 7 guys score 20+ goals this year far and away the most. Out producing someone means squat. It's overall fit that matters. Ie Ritchie on the 4th line in la producing nothing but likely to win another cup

Anyone think Jake Virtanen from the Hitmen could drop to the Flyers at 17 since he suffered the shoulder injury. If he did would you pick him or think it too big of a risk. Could be a steal once healthy at 17
- J35Bacher

I'm telling you all, we should trade up to #11/12 if Hayden Fleury is still available. Dude's awesome.

Read replaces simmonds on 2nd line. Getting a 3rd line winger isn't expensive and filling a #6 dman also isn't expensive.
- Sms401

Maybe I'm missing something but do some of you look at some switches as a pecking order? You simply replace one guy with another and voila! You have to find the right fit. Right now the perfect fit is Read to play with Couturier. In my opinion, it would be nice to find that perfect complement to the two of them.