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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 11:27 AM ET
As long as you budget/plan around the overage, as the Bruins seem to have, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Even if it's only $500k-1M in bonuses, that could mean room for an extra roster player or enough to make call-ups for the year.
- Tomahawk


They could always do what the Devils did with Jagr. Give him a $2M base salary with an extra $2M in games played bonuses.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 28 @ 11:33 AM ET
Flyers Facebook page says draft tickets for the public go on sale tomorrow, but don't give a time. Wtf.
- Giroux_Is_God


You're supposed to sign up and they'll email you when they go public.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
You're supposed to sign up and they'll email you when they go public.
- bradleyc4


Do we have any idea on ticket price yet?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
You're supposed to sign up and they'll email you when they go public.
- bradleyc4

I've been signed up for months.

That's really stupid though. What am I gonna do? Not go to sleep tonight and wait in front of my computer all day tomorrow?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
Do we have any idea on ticket price yet?
- wolfhounds

My friend said he thought they were free. I don't believe that for a second though
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 28 @ 11:46 AM ET
Budget and planning around the overage means what?
- MJL


Just means you don't give more bonuses out than you can afford to absorb the following season -- likewise you save room for the possible overage in your future budget projections with the assumption that all bonuses will be achieved.

Flyers obviously can't give out a bonus as large as Iginla's, since our near-term salary structure is nowhere near as sound, but they can afford a little bit here and there.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 51m
Don Meehan told me he has yet to hear from Flyers GM Ron Hextall on BSchenn's (RFA) next deal. He's not worried at the moment.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
My friend said he thought they were free. I don't believe that for a second though
- Giroux_Is_God


They were free to STH, but not sure about the general public.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 51m
Don Meehan told me he has yet to hear from Flyers GM Ron Hextall on BSchenn's (RFA) next deal. He's not worried at the moment.

- PhillaBully


This is news???

"Apparently, nothing has happened! MTC!"
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 28 @ 11:55 AM ET
This is news???

"Apparently, nothing has happened! MTC!"

- jmatchett383

well i would have thought at least some negotiating was done.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
well i would have thought at least some negotiating was done.
- PhillaBully


I think this will drag into at least the draft. From what I've heard, they're not very close on numbers.
PhillySteen
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Scania
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
I think this will drag into at least the draft. From what I've heard, they're not very close on numbers.
- jmatchett383


I wouldn't be surprised if it's not done by training camp, or even later. Isn't Meehan also the agent for O'Reilley, Subban and Doughty? And we know how those negotiations went.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
I think this will drag into at least the draft. From what I've heard, they're not very close on numbers.
- jmatchett383


hears the meeting:

Schenn: i want 4 mill for 5
Hextall: Youll take 2 for 2.
Shenn: why?
Hextall: How does winnipeg or buffalo sound?
Schenn: DONE...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

May 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
You're supposed to sign up and they'll email you when they go public.
- bradleyc4



I was at the draft in NJ and it was cool to experience one live but I really rather watch on TV when all is said and done personally
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
hears the meeting:

Schenn: i want 4 mill for 5
Hextall: Youll take 2 for 2.
Shenn: why?
Hextall: How does winnipeg or buffalo sound?
Schenn: DONE...

- PhillaBully



Ill bet that wont be far from the truth actually. Though I think Schenn would be nuts to ask for that kind of coin and expect he will get it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
Ill bet that wont be far from the truth actually. Though I think Schenn would be nuts to ask for that kind of coin and expect he will get it.
- MBFlyerfan


Word on the street (unconfirmed) is that he's looking for $3M+ base.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
I was at the draft in NJ and it was cool to experience one live but I really rather watch on TV when all is said and done personally
- nastyflyergirl


I bet it was a lot of waiting around. Or do they broadcast the NHL feed on the jumbotron or something? I would imagine its quite boring between the actual picks.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 12:03 PM ET
I bet it was a lot of waiting around. Or do they broadcast the NHL feed on the jumbotron or something? I would imagine its quite boring between the actual picks.
- MBFlyerfan


Beer solves everything.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
I was at the draft in NJ and it was cool to experience one live but I really rather watch on TV when all is said and done personally
- nastyflyergirl


Funny, this sounds like going to the Winter Classic.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
I was at the draft in NJ and it was cool to experience one live but I really rather watch on TV when all is said and done personally
- nastyflyergirl


Yeah, I just want to have that one experience as well. It's not something I'd want to go to regularly.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
Just means you don't give more bonuses out than you can afford to absorb the following season -- likewise you save room for the possible overage in your future budget projections with the assumption that all bonuses will be achieved.

Flyers obviously can't give out a bonus as large as Iginla's, since our near-term salary structure is nowhere near as sound, but they can afford a little bit here and there.

- Tomahawk


My question was rhetorical. There is no amount of bonuses that the Flyers can afford to absorb the following season. That's the point.

In my opinion, that's the type of move a team makes when they feel the player is a key piece needed as a legitimate cup contender. I don't see the Flyers in that position. Offer him a fair base salary, and that's it.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
I was at the draft in NJ and it was cool to experience one live but I really rather watch on TV when all is said and done personally
- nastyflyergirl


I am rationalizing going to the First Round, because you'll probably see a few guys get drafted who turn out to be good players. It'll be fun when the Flyers pick, because the crowd will be pumped and we'll get a "Let's Go Flyers" thing going.

You can also count on the Pens and Rangers picks getting booed. Probably even a "Crosby Sucks" chant.

All in all, it's an excuse to go on a Friday night, wear your O&B stuff on a summer day, and talk a bit of hockey.

With that said, Day 2 of the draft sounds utterly boring to me, to attend in person.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 12:09 PM ET
I am rationalizing going to the First Round, because you'll probably see a few guys get drafted who turn out to be good players. It'll be fun when the Flyers pick, because the crowd will be pumped and we'll get a "Let's Go Flyers" thing going.

You can also count on the Pens and Rangers picks getting booed. Probably even a "Crosby Sucks" chant.

All in all, it's an excuse to go on a Friday night, wear your O&B stuff on a summer day, and talk a bit of hockey.

With that said, Day 2 of the draft sounds utterly boring to me, to attend in person.

- johndewar


Yeah, I don't think I'd stay past Round 3. That's likely where the Flyer pick "Zac 3."
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 28 @ 12:11 PM ET
If we get a couple of players for Coby ($5.5 mil), at about $1.5 mil, and don't resign Timonen ($6 mil), maybe we could sign Niskanen ($3-3.5 mil)?

That would leave:
MacD, Streit, Schenn, Grossman, Niskanen, and (Alt, Belov, or Ceci ?)

I realize that this is not the greatest D in the league, however, you have one stay at home guy paired with one mobile guy, and it has to be better than it was during the last few years.
Also, you have to get our lazy forwards to consistently play D on every shift. This D line up would allow more cap space, and flexibility with the pairings. Also, if a player starts to slump, then you can bring someone else up to shock them into better play, and allow the kids to develop a little longer.
Just some thoughts.
Thanks.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 28 @ 12:12 PM ET
Just means you don't give more bonuses out than you can afford to absorb the following season -- likewise you save room for the possible overage in your future budget projections with the assumption that all bonuses will be achieved.

Flyers obviously can't give out a bonus as large as Iginla's, since our near-term salary structure is nowhere near as sound, but they can afford a little bit here and there.

- Tomahawk


Given the expected rise in the cap, I have no problem with giving an incentive-laden contract to Timonen. While it's not optimal, any carryover into the 15/16 season should be partially negated by his (probable) retirement. You still have to fill his place, but it's not the end of the world...sort of.
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