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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
That's a low blow, making me choose.
- jmatchett383


MORIN
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
now theres a name i havent heard in a while.
- stayinthefnnet


Its a shame you had to part with him for Hossa.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 22 @ 1:05 PM ET


Let me go photoshop a golf bag on Giroux

- Winning

Whatever keeps you busy and away from society in general.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
Its a shame you had to part with him for Hossa.
- PhillySportsGuy


i love hossa. always one of the most talented, respectable guys. would have loved him long term, but that signing would have been such a big one where you never know what the team wouldve looked liked after, for better or worse.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
MORIN
- PhillySportsGuy


you can put him into the answer selections, if you wish.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
Its a shame you had to part with him for dupuis.
- PhillySportsGuy


actually.... better now.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 22 @ 1:16 PM ET
now theres a name i havent heard in a while.
- stayinthefnnet


Pensburgh talking Neal, Martin and Letang as the guys to trade this summer... if Letang, please send to us, kthx
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
Pensburgh talking Neal, Martin and Letang as the guys to trade this summer... if Letang, please send to us, kthx
- Tomahawk

trading Martin and Letang and keeping Scuderi makes no sense
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
Pensburgh talking Neal, Martin and Letang as the guys to trade this summer... if Letang, please send to us, kthx
- Tomahawk


they would be foolish beyond words to move paul martin. his value to the team far surpasses what theyd get. he is a very well rounded defenseman that fits their needs perfectly, but i dont think he brings in a huge haul. hes not flashy, only one more year left on his deal, and not exactly young. they need to keep him for sure.

neal, i wouldnt look to force out the door, but i would definitely be interested should the right deal come around. he has a lot of pros, he is young, good with malkin, and not many 40 goal guys are locked up for 5 mil a year. but he is one dimensional and a (frank)ing idiot.

and letang? sure. simmonds is coming back though. kthx haha
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
Whatever keeps you busy and away from society in general.
- mayorofangrytown


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
and letang? sure. simmonds is coming back though. kthx haha
- stayinthefnnet



PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
i love hossa. always one of the most talented, respectable guys. would have loved him long term, but that signing would have been such a big one where you never know what the team wouldve looked liked after, for better or worse.
- stayinthefnnet


I was joking. I love Hossa. He's still got it
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
trading Martin and Letang and keeping Scuderi makes no sense
- Marc D

martin makes no sense whatsoever.

letang, depending on the deal. id definitely listen. lots of pros and cons on that one too, but enough intrigue that the right deal would tempt me.

scuderi, like i said, id move a mid to low pick with him just to be rid of him, but i cant see that happening.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
Whatever keeps you busy and away from society in general.
- mayorofangrytown


!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
martin makes no sense whatsoever.

letang, depending on the deal. id definitely listen. lots of pros and cons on that one too, but enough intrigue that the right deal would tempt me.

scuderi, like i said, id move a mid to low pick with him just to be rid of him, but i cant see that happening.

- stayinthefnnet


Martin is the only stabilizing force on the back end for you guys. Losing him would be worse than losing letang in the short term
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
Martin is the only stabilizing force on the back end for you guys. Losing him would be worse than losing letang in the short term
- PhillySportsGuy


100 percent agree.

his presence makes the PP better as well. if they trade him, i will lose my marbles.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:34 PM ET

- Tomahawk


haha what else do you think you have that could get it done?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
im a scumbag pens fan. you shouldnt expect anything else.

now, your poison sir?

- stayinthefnnet


If I must:

Ghostisbehere - He's just so damn dynamic. He reminds me of a smaller Erik Karlsson, and with a year or so in the AHL to work on his defensive game, could be very Kimmo Timonen like, possibly a little more skating/offense but without the fantastic defense Kimmo still brings. Tremendous upside

Pouliot - Of the 3, the most likely to ever win a Norris. Very well rounded. Good size and can use it, great offensive instincts, and A-rate defense. I'm thinking a future Duncan Keith type.

Pulock - Probably the surest bet of the 3 with regards to his spot. He's a surefire Top-4 type who could potentially be a top pair guy. Top unit PP point man with that booming shot. Again, more well rounded than Ghost, but more of your traditional offensive defenseman who stays at home and excels at the point as opposed to the flash that Ghostisbehere will bring.

If I was starting a team from scratch, I'd go Pouliot/Ghost/Pulock. Given what the Flyers need most (and, selfishly, the player I'm most excited to see due to his gamebreaking ability) I'm switching them.

Now one for you:

Mid-90s-era mullet Jagr, late 90's/early00's Lemieux, or current day Crosby
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 22 @ 1:35 PM ET
haha what else do you think you have that could get it done?
- stayinthefnnet


Read, Rosehill, and Rinaldo. And a 4th.
--- or ---
Read, Coburn, B Schenn
--- or ---
The rights to Steve Downie (drafted before Letang and therefore better than him).
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
I would not pay him a cent more than Couturier, personally. Couturier plays tougher minutes against other teams' top lines, kills penalties and still is a double-digit scorer. Schenn's 20 goals were his entire value.
- bmeltzer


$1.75m is an unrealistic number for BSChenn. Couturier signed his contract after a difficult season for him. If he had waited till after he scored 39 points this season he would have got quite a bit more.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
If I must:

Ghostisbehere - He's just so damn dynamic. He reminds me of a smaller Erik Karlsson, and with a year or so in the AHL to work on his defensive game, could be very Kimmo Timonen like, possibly a little more skating/offense but without the fantastic defense Kimmo still brings. Tremendous upside

Pouliot - Of the 3, the most likely to ever win a Norris. Very well rounded. Good size and can use it, great offensive instincts, and A-rate defense. I'm thinking a future Duncan Keith type.

Pulock - Probably the surest bet of the 3 with regards to his spot. He's a surefire Top-4 type who could potentially be a top pair guy. Top unit PP point man with that booming shot. Again, more well rounded than Ghost, but more of your traditional offensive defenseman who stays at home and excels at the point as opposed to the flash that Ghostisbehere will bring.

If I was starting a team from scratch, I'd go Pouliot/Ghost/Pulock. Given what the Flyers need most (and, selfishly, the player I'm most excited to see due to his gamebreaking ability) I'm switching them.

Now one for you:

Mid-90s-era mullet Jagr, late 90's/early00's Lemieux, or current day Crosby

- jmatchett383


my god. if pouliot becomes duncan keith.

and mid 90s mullet jagr is why i became a pen. gotta dance with the one that brung ya on that one.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
Read, Rosehill, and Rinaldo. And a 4th.
--- or ---
Read, Coburn, B Schenn

- jmatchett383


okay im assuming the first one is the prerequisite sarcasm, play to both our fancies deal.

is the second one fair game to be considered a legitimate offer?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
$1.75m is an unrealistic number for BSChenn. Couturier signed his contract after a difficult season for him. If he had waited till after he scored 39 points this season he would have got quite a bit more.
- Feanor


yeah i agree. you never know how much he wants to stay in Philly, but 1.75 is low to me. thats a number id look to get a guy like kulemin on, who should get you like 12 goals.

schenn is a guy with a floor of 20, with the potential to take that next step forward. if hes getting 3 years, id look for at least 8M total if i were him
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
$1.75m is an unrealistic number for BSChenn. Couturier signed his contract after a difficult season for him. If he had waited till after he scored 39 points this season he would have got quite a bit more.
- Feanor



If Homer was still here, I could almost guarantee than Schenn would have landed in Read/Simmer/Voracek territory easy... but now I honestly have no clue. Hexy doesn't sound like he's in a hurry to get it done... hopefully that means he's willing to wait the Schenn camp out.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 22 @ 1:43 PM ET
my god. if pouliot becomes duncan keith.

and mid 90s mullet jagr is why i became a pen. gotta dance with the one that brung ya on that one.

- stayinthefnnet


I really think he could. Just like Keith, he put up good numbers on a good WHL team in his last junior year (WHL probably the most NHL-ready of the 3 junior leagues). Similar in size. Tremendous players at both ends of the ice. Looks like a good potential "A" character guy.
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