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bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
Have my draft ticket for day 1. I have only one season seat so could choose only one ticket. Decided on Friday night for first round rather than all-day Saturday.

I'm not sure how they decided who got priority. I think it was in order of seniority as an STH. I think this was day 2.

But if you are an STH and don't know what I'm talking about. Check your spam folder for emails from the Flyers about the draft.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yes but will do it shortly before the draft.
- bmeltzer

thanks bill!
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

May 20 @ 3:43 PM ET
Just realized this....

2007 NHL draft.... Flyers took Kevin Marshall two picks before PK Subban.

Can't make this poop up. Marshall is a better dancer, and would more likely be on Soul Train. So there's that.

- PLindbergh31


Im pretty sure they even traded up to get Marshall
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 20 @ 3:46 PM ET
Im pretty sure they even traded up to get Marshall
- JFlyers00

I'm sure there weren't 42 other players chosen before PK in that draft who were better than he was. But only the Flyers are laughable in the book of the fake Flyer fan from N Jersey.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 20 @ 3:46 PM ET
Im pretty sure they even traded up to get Marshall
- JFlyers00


Marshall over Subban.... Part and parcel as to what has gone on the last 4 decades.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 20 @ 3:49 PM ET
Just realized this....

2007 NHL draft.... Flyers took Kevin Marshall two picks before PK Subban.

Can't make this poop up. Marshall is a better dancer, and would more likely be on Soul Train. So there's that.

- PLindbergh31

5 years Leight
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 20 @ 3:49 PM ET
Just realized this....

2007 NHL draft.... Flyers took Kevin Marshall two picks before PK Subban.

Can't make this poop up. Marshall is a better dancer, and would more likely be on Soul Train. So there's that.

- PLindbergh31


Yeah but to be fair, Boston took Tommy Cross before Subban too.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

May 20 @ 3:50 PM ET
Marshall over Subban.... Part and parcel as to what has gone on the last 4 decades.


- PLindbergh31


Eh it happens. Like what was said above, plenty of other teams passed on Subban. They liked a guy and went and got him. Can't really blame them.

That same year Jamie Benn went in the 5th round.

Flyers didn't have a second round pick in 2007. They traded their 3rd that year along with a second in 2008 to move up to grab Marshall.
Slipperypickle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 20 @ 3:52 PM ET
Free agents i would be interested in for one reason or another with what they earned this year.

Of course Price would have to be right and depends on if other moves or made then it could change my thinking but just of the top of my head these could be at least looked into.

Devon Setoguchi - 3mil
Nikolai Kulemin - 2.8mil
Brian Boyle - 1.7mil
Ryan Jones - 1.5mil
Beniot Pouliet - 1.3mil
Mason Raymond - 1mil
Thomas Griess - 750k
Andy Miele - 675k
TJ Brennan - 600k
Carter Hutton - 550k
Brian Gibbons - 550k

- J35Bacher


Last year I thought Philly should take a look at TJ Brennan and Kris Russell. Russell has gone on to earn a ton of time in Calgary and Brennan had a fantastic year in the AHL. Brennan could replace Gus easily.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 20 @ 3:54 PM ET
Last year I thought Philly should take a look at TJ Brennan and Kris Russell. Russell has gone on to earn a ton of time in Calgary and Brennan had a fantastic year in the AHL. Brennan could replace Gus easily.
- Slipperypickle

More than a few people on here wanted Raymond but they were busy with the guy from the Red Wings and praying for cap space.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
Last year I thought Philly should take a look at TJ Brennan and Kris Russell. Russell has gone on to earn a ton of time in Calgary and Brennan had a fantastic year in the AHL. Brennan could replace Gus easily.
- Slipperypickle



Russell would have been a great pickup... went from discard to top-4 guy.

Brennan's got great numbers and tools, but he's completely lost in his own zone.

Redmond and Fedun are a couple of guys I'd take a chance on -- at worst, they'd help the Phantoms.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
Russell would have been a great pickup... went from discard to top-4 guy.

Brennan's got great numbers and tools, but he's completely lost in his own zone.

Redmond and Fedun are a couple of guys I'd take a chance on -- at worst, they'd help the Phantoms.

- Tomahawk



Yeah but Brennan and guys like Del Zotto just they type of low risk/high reward players that you can take a flyer on. no pun intended
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
Just realized this....

2007 NHL draft.... Flyers took Kevin Marshall two picks before PK Subban.

Can't make this poop up. Marshall is a better dancer, and would more likely be on Soul Train. So there's that.

- PLindbergh31


Leight
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yeah but to be fair, Boston took Tommy Cross before Subban too.
- Streit2ThePoint


And it killed that franchise.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 20 @ 4:09 PM ET
Leight
- PhillySportsGuy



And all the teams that passed on Datsyuk and zetterburg. It is just convient to point out the Flyers but other teams make the same mistakes. The Flyers found Matt Read. So why can't we give some credit. How about Claude Giroux as he wasn't a sure thing when drafted. There will always be hits and misses
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 20 @ 4:10 PM ET
And all the teams that passed on Datsyuk and zetterburg. It is just convient to point out the Flyers but other teams make the same mistakes. The Flyers found Matt Read. So why can't we give some credit. How about Claude Giroux as he wasn't a sure thing when drafted. There will always be hits and misses
- J35Bacher


Only the misses matter.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

May 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
You think Nashville would trade Ellis for B.Schenn? Seems fair to me.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 20 @ 4:18 PM ET
Only the misses matter.
- PhillySportsGuy



I know. but Zetterburg was the 210 pick. So every team passed on him multiple times including detriot. Just saying there will always be more misses then hits. So many dynamics that you can't account for everything.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 20 @ 4:20 PM ET
You think Nashville would trade Ellis for B.Schenn? Seems fair to me.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I am a huge Ellis fan, have been since I saw his magic during the World Juniors.

I just don't think he is on a high enough tier that the Flyers need. This team currently has too many average d-men as is. Josi on the other hand...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 20 @ 4:40 PM ET
I am a huge Ellis fan, have been since I saw his magic during the World Juniors.

I just don't think he is on a high enough tier that the Flyers need. This team currently has too many average d-men as is. Josi on the other hand...

- flyer_nutter


Coatsey for Josi?
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

May 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
Saw a mock draft with the Flyers picking Guelph small center Rob Fabbri. Do we want this guy even if he's the best available?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
Saw a mock draft with the Flyers picking Guelph small center Rob Fabbri. Do we want this guy even if he's the best available?
- 2731color


Depends who else is available. I know a lot of people who aren't high on him. I don't think he fits the mold of what Hextall is after. He likes big and fast.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
I know. but Zetterburg was the 210 pick. So every team passed on him multiple times including detriot. Just saying there will always be more misses then hits. So many dynamics that you can't account for everything.
- J35Bacher

I think he was being facetious. Most of us understand the fact that scouting and drafting are arts, not sciences. But even if they were sciences, there'd be trial and error.


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
Depends who else is available. I know a lot of people who aren't high on him. I don't think he fits the mold of what Hextall is after. He likes big and fast.
- PhillySportsGuy


I say that we trade up if Hayden Fleury is available at 11. He was projected to go 6th a while ago, but has fallen off in some rankings. Seems like Pulock v2.0. All true believers of Raptor Jesus know that Pulock is superior to Morin.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 20 @ 4:56 PM ET
I know. but Zetterburg was the 210 pick. So every team passed on him multiple times including detriot. Just saying there will always be more misses then hits. So many dynamics that you can't account for everything.
- J35Bacher


No. Detroit knew that no one else would take him. They were going to use their first pick on him, but when every other team asked, "Who???" when they were gauging interest, they decided they could use their early picks to get the more sought-after players and draft him last. Otherwise, Jori Tosla would have been a Predator. It's common knowledge.
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