If Kimmo retires, I'd be interested in Boyle on a 1-2 year term. He was basically used exactly like Kimmo was this year, and played particularly well in the PO's.
- Tomahawk

Really? I thought he looked bad in the PO's. Like he was out gassed.

Does anyone else have a difficult time reading a John Gonzalez article?

I really wish I could find a Sixers writer who I respected.

Does anyone else have a difficult time reading a John Gonzalez article?

I really wish I could find a Sixers writer who I respected.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah, not a fan of Gonzo.

I really miss Jasner.

Really? I thought he looked bad in the PO's. Like he was out gassed.
- Jsaquella

I would rather bring Kimmo back than Boyle.

Kimmo looked bad towards the end of the season, but he's a better defensive player than Boyle. Having Boyle and Streit would really handcuff the Flyers in certain situations.

I would rather bring Kimmo back than Boyle.

Kimmo looked bad towards the end of the season, but he's a better defensive player than Boyle. Having Boyle and Streit would really handcuff the Flyers in certain situations.
- PhillySportsGuy

They have a few options. A trade might be the best route.

Yeah, not a fan of Gonzo.

I really miss Jasner.
- Jsaquella

Ugh. I know. I was so sad when he passed away. He was one of the few old school writers left. He would never write something without hearing all sides of the story and getting things verified.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...never-spoke-to-ahl-coach/

Wow...maybe this is just after the fact sniping at a guy after he's gone, but Jesus, Torts seemed to be intent on destroying the Canucks this past season

Ugh. I know. I was so sad when he passed away. He was one of the few old school writers left. He would never write something without hearing all sides of the story and getting things verified.
- PhillySportsGuy

He was pretty much the only reason I ever watched Daily News Live.

They have a few options. A trade might be the best route.
- Jsaquella

I just don't want them to go into next season thinking they have to make a move for a top 4 dman through trade or FA. It's ok to go with the status quo if nothing reasonable presents itself.

Really? I thought he looked bad in the PO's. Like he was out gassed.
- Jsaquella

His possession metrics were crazy good.... +11.2 CF% rel, and was only out for 3 EV goals against:
http://www.extraskater.co...ose&pos=D&sort=cf_pct_rel

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/15/report-tortorella-wanted-burrows-bought-out-never-spoke-to-ahl-coach/

Wow...maybe this is just after the fact sniping at a guy after he's gone, but Jesus, Torts seemed to be intent on destroying the Canucks this past season
- Jsaquella

Is it possible the Lightning won a cup in spite of him?

I just don't want them to go into next season thinking they have to make a move for a top 4 dman through trade or FA. It's ok to go with the status quo if nothing reasonable presents itself.
- PhillySportsGuy

Agreed. We as fans can sit here and go on about if Mason was healthy we'd be playing the Habs Saturday, but the bottom line is that the team is flawed and it might be a situation that needs patience.

If a great move falls into your lap, sure pull the trigger. But otherwise, there's no real need to move a kid like Brayden Schenn for a quick fix.

His possession metrics were crazy good.... +11.2 CF% rel, and was only out for 3 EV goals against:
http://www.extraskater.co...ose&pos=D&sort=cf_pct_rel
- Tomahawk

I like Jason Demers because he has a fun name to say.

Is it possible the Lightning won a cup in spite of him?
- PhillySportsGuy

No idea...he did have a good team. Did a solid job with the Rangers. Very possible there was a clash with Gillis or whatever and he was just burned out.

Agreed. We as fans can sit here and go on about if Mason was healthy we'd be playing the Habs Saturday, but the bottom line is that the team is flawed and it might be a situation that needs patience.

If a great move falls into your lap, sure pull the trigger. But otherwise, there's no real need to move a kid like Brayden Schenn for a quick fix.
- Jsaquella

Stanley Cup teams don't have many flaws. The Flyers had some serious flaws. I don't know how or where they would have lost, but this team was not built for a long playoff run.

His possession metrics were crazy good.... +11.2 CF% rel, and was only out for 3 EV goals against:
http://www.extraskater.co...ose&pos=D&sort=cf_pct_rel
- Tomahawk

Strictly an eyeball thing in this case for me.


To be honest, I haven't even been on ES in a couple days

I like Jason Demers because he has a fun name to say.
- PhillySportsGuy

Irwin, Braun, Demers... I'd poach any and all of them.

No idea...he did have a good team. Did a solid job with the Rangers. Very possible there was a clash with Gillis or whatever and he was just burned out.
- Jsaquella

I really think the Nucks are a playoff team with a better coach. Sedins may not be what they used to be, but they are still very capable players.

Western Canada hockey was just awful this season.

Strictly an eyeball thing in this case for me.


To be honest, I haven't even been on ES in a couple days
- Jsaquella

You don't need to. Just look at Boyle's last 5 seasons. That will tell you all you need to know. He's a 60 point, top pairing dman.

Stanley Cup teams don't have many flaws. The Flyers had some serious flaws. I don't know how or where they would have lost, but this team was not built for a long playoff run.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yep. It's odd, but if they had a healthy Mason, it's very possible that they could be alive today, heading into a series vs the Habs.

The trouble is, with that thinking, you'd be ignoring the issues. In 2010 they had a couple very good matchups and went to the SCF. Rather than fix the goaltending, they brought in an expensive 5th defenseman and re-signed the journeyman goalie that got hot.

I want them to say we were a mediocre possession team, didn't fare well at 5 on 5 and rode of special teams too hard. We need to get better puck movement on the blueline, but have to avoid making short term, OHHHH SHiny! Moves.

I really think the Nucks are a playoff team with a better coach. Sedins may not be what they used to be, but they are still very capable players.

Western Canada hockey was just awful this season.
- PhillySportsGuy

They had enough talent, at least until they dealt Luongo.

Irwin, Braun, Demers... I'd poach any and all of them.
- Tomahawk

Might as well grab Muzzin from the Kings too.

Since we're on the subject of California defenseman, would you rather have Lindholm or Fowler?

Boyle looked cooked in the playoffs. I advocated signing him earlier in the year, but he looked as done as Kimmo. Pass.
- Jsaquella

i wanted boyle bad when he was dangled and ended up going to the sharks... that was a lonnng time ago

I would rather bring Kimmo back than Boyle.

Kimmo looked bad towards the end of the season, but he's a better defensive player than Boyle. Having Boyle and Streit would really handcuff the Flyers in certain situations.
- PhillySportsGuy

yes

i wanted boyle bad when he was dangled and ended up going to the sharks... that was a lonnng time ago
- -davies-