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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:43 AM ET
I am curious to see who Bill would like the Flyers to take. I would like to see if Nick Ritchie dropped to them Kid is huge and can skate. He is a natural winger and takes the puck to the net.
- J35Bacher


I like him but I doubt he's still on the board at 17
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:43 AM ET
I'm too damn lazy to look; is the 3rd we're getting for Meszaros in this draft or next year's?
- AllInForFlyers


This year I believe
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:48 AM ET
ISS top 20 draft prospects as of 4/15 FWIW

1 Sam Reinhart
2 Aaron Ekblad
3 Michael Dal Colle
4 Sam Bennett
5 William Nylander
6 Leon Draisaitl
7 Brendan Perlini
8 Alex Tuch
9 Nicholas Ritchie
10 Jake Virtanen
11 Nikolaj Ehlers
12 Haydn Fleury
13 Kasperi Kapanen
14 Dylan Larkin
15 Jared McCann
16 Robby Fabbri
17 Joshua Ho-Sang
18 Sonny Milano
19 Ivan Barbashev
20 Roland McKeown
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 15 @ 8:48 AM ET
I like him but I doubt he's still on the board at 17
- BiggE


Yeah. He's likely a top 10 pick.

After the top 10, it's anyones guess. I could see a number of guys being available. I really like Honka. Even though he's a defenseman, I would be happy to see them take him.

Wouldn't be opposed to trading down a bit as well. They could use some extra picks with all the trading Homer has done lately.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:49 AM ET
Yeah. He's likely a top 10 pick.

After the top 10, it's anyones guess. I could see a number of guys being available. I really like Honka. Even though he's a defenseman, I would be happy to see them take him.

Wouldn't be opposed to trading down a bit as well. They could use some extra picks with all the trading Homer has done lately.

- PhillySportsGuy


Works for me!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 15 @ 8:49 AM ET
This year I believe
- BiggE


Thanks -- I know it's frustrating they gave up two picks for MacDonald, but really, the Meszaros deal means they get one of the picks back. It's not that bad, when you consider it through that lens, right?

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 15 @ 8:50 AM ET


Works for me!

- BiggE


I'm fine with it, too -- can't be scared to move down in a draft
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:51 AM ET
Thanks -- I know it's frustrating they gave up two picks for MacDonald, but really, the Meszaros deal means they get one of the picks back. It's not that bad, when you consider it through that lens, right?
- AllInForFlyers


They got a 2nd pair dman with good mobility who blocks shots and can play in all situations without giving up a 1st or a top prospect. I am totally fine with that.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:51 AM ET
I'm fine with it, too -- can't be scared to move down in a draft
- AllInForFlyers


Especially in a draft that most scouts agree there is a real drop off after the first 10-12 picks.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 15 @ 8:52 AM ET
Yeah. He's likely a top 10 pick.

After the top 10, it's anyones guess. I could see a number of guys being available. I really like Honka. Even though he's a defenseman, I would be happy to see them take him.

Wouldn't be opposed to trading down a bit as well. They could use some extra picks with all the trading Homer has done lately.

- PhillySportsGuy


Think trading down to get rid of vinny would be a smart move?

Edit: unless fleury drops to 17
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 15 @ 8:54 AM ET
I 3rd it! (With a shout out to ggunk)
- funmaster18





PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 15 @ 8:54 AM ET
Thanks -- I know it's frustrating they gave up two picks for MacDonald, but really, the Meszaros deal means they get one of the picks back. It's not that bad, when you consider it through that lens, right?
- AllInForFlyers


Flyers have no 4th rounder this year and no 2nd rounder next year.

They can gain a 4th rounder for next year, if Mez re-signs with the Bruins. Highly unlikely considering Seidenberg will be back with them.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:55 AM ET
So Lucic threatens 2 Montreal players in the post series handshake line

Classy

He is a close #2 just behind James Kneel in my list of the NHL biggest dbags
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 15 @ 8:55 AM ET
Think trading down to get rid of vinny would be a smart move?

Edit: unless fleury drops to 17

- FlyersSteve118


Not unless they feel they can get the same player a few picks later. I wouldn't trade down more than a few spots to do that.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 15 @ 8:55 AM ET
They got a 2nd pair dman with good mobility who blocks shots and can play in all situations without giving up a 1st or a top prospect. I am totally fine with that.
- BiggE


Exactly -- I don't love the contract, but the guy is signed, is a good age, is mobile enough and smart enough to have value in the league, even if we're unlucky and he plays horribly for the Flyers. I'd rather he play well, obviously, and if he does, a 2nd just isn't that horrific a price to pay.

I think we'll see some salary stabilization coming soon, and I do think that contract is movable if the Flyers ever decide they want to go that route.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 15 @ 8:56 AM ET
So Lucic threatens 2 Montreal players in the post series handshake line

Classy

He is a close #2 just behind James Kneel in my list of the NHL biggest dbags

- BiggE


You just knew the Bruins would act like poor sports
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:56 AM ET
Flyers have no 4th rounder this year and no 2nd rounder next year.

They can gain a 4th rounder for next year, if Mez re-signs with the Bruins. NO chance in hell since Seidenberg will be back with them.

- PhillySportsGuy


FTFY
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 15 @ 8:57 AM ET
You just knew the Bruins would act like poor sports
- PhillySportsGuy


Yup, after the Rangers and Pens, they have moved past the Devils for 3rd on my list of NHL teams I truly hate.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 15 @ 8:57 AM ET
FTFY
- BiggE


Basically, yeah
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 15 @ 8:59 AM ET
Yup, after the Rangers and Pens, they have moved past the Devils for 3rd on my list of NHL teams I truly hate.
- BiggE


I don't hate them. I just knew they weren't going to go down quietly though. I was worried they were going to take a run at Pacioretty after Briere put the game out of reach.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 15 @ 8:59 AM ET
Especially in a draft that most scouts agree there is a real drop off after the first 10-12 picks.
- BiggE


Reminds me a little of 2005, where the Flyers moved down and took Steve Downie. Mike Keenan and Florida took Keenan McArdle, who never really made it.

Downie has his flaws, but he is an NHL player -- he's gonna get signed within the first few days of free agency, I bet. Too many soft teams in the league for him to not get another shot on a roster
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 15 @ 9:01 AM ET
Flyers have no 4th rounder this year and no 2nd rounder next year.
- PhillySportsGuy


No 3rd rounder next year, either.

http://www.prosportstrans...tTrades/Future/Flyers.htm
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 15 @ 9:01 AM ET
No 3rd rounder next year, either.

http://www.prosportstrans...tTrades/Future/Flyers.htm

- Feanor


Huh. Where the hell did that go?

Oh, never mind -- that poop was totally worth it
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 15 @ 9:06 AM ET
Reminds me a little of 2005, where the Flyers moved down and took Steve Downie. Mike Keenan and Florida took Keenan McArdle, who never really made it.

Downie has his flaws, but he is an NHL player -- he's gonna get signed within the first few days of free agency, I bet. Too many soft teams in the league for him to not get another shot on a roster

- AllInForFlyers


Looking at the 2005 first round... I haven't heard of half those players. It's scary how many first rounders are actually busts.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 15 @ 9:08 AM ET
God, the flyers need to learn how to draft forwards already. Enough with the defensmen.
- funmaster18


I'm A-OK with them picking the best available player no matter the spot.
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