Without those two we basically have a ringette team.
- DrChristianTroy

Whatever, those two guys are the biggest pillow biters on the team. You want to change the culture of the team, that's where I'd start.

Whatever, those two guys are the biggest pillow biters on the team. You want to change the culture of the team, that's where I'd start.
- 1970vintage

Daniel's the biggest pillow-biter.

Daniel's the biggest pillow-biter.
- Nucker101

But no one expects him to be tough...

But no one expects him to be tough...
- 1970vintage

Don't gotta be tough to even just try to stop a midget from punching you in the head 7 times in a row....

Would you do Nyquist and the 2014 first, + 2015 2nd for Kesler?
- I-own_da-Northwest

No, not looking to trade Nyquist and the Wings first rounder this year is the highest they have had since like 1991 when they drafted Martin Lapointe. Problem is the Wings don't really need Kesler that much. I just said it as a joke to see if Nuck fans would like that trade. Wings would probably be more interested in Bieksa given he is a right handed shooting defenseman which is something they need.

Given Holland's comments he is likely targeting Niskanen if he hits the market and maybe Zidlicky or Boyle for short term fix. Maybe looking at guys like Bieksa, Myers, Franson ect... as potential trades if they don't get what they want on the UFA market or they feel Sproul or Marchenko are not going to be in the NHL next season. Wings right now have 0 right handed shooting defensemen on their NHL roster and it's making their PP horrible with Babcock always using any right handed shooting forward he has play the point of the PP. It is also making their breakouts harder with guys playing their off side and making it harder to keep pucks in at the offensive blue line. Hopefully Holland finally fixes this problem this summer.

Why couldn't they win in 2011

Why couldn't they win in 2011
- pker2theend

Get over it brah. Embrace the suckage.

Get over it brah. Embrace the suckage.
- Nucker101

It's too early.

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I hope he gets suspended. (frank)en little puke.

Not meant to be a troll here, but why would Carol include Malkin and Crosby on the "dream" list when you aren't close to having the assets to really put out a good offer to acquire either. Reality, neither is going anywhere anytime soon. However, if I looked at all the organizations, Vancouver is well down the list of trade partners for either. Buffalo, Florida, Washington (have no desire for OV), and NJ probably are the only worse matchups right now.

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I hope he gets suspended. (frank)en little puke.
- VANTEL

Marchand is one turd that I wish would go play in the freeway - right in the middle of 401 when cars are going 150 kph. Definately one of my least 10 favorites players in this league. Boston and Philly comprise most of them - probably eight combined.

Marchand is one turd that I wish would go play in the freeway - right in the middle of 401 when cars are going 150 kph. Definately one of my least 10 favorites players in this league. Boston and Philly comprise most of them - probably eight combined.
- Oneonta Penguin

That is a blind side sucker punch. That is suspendable .

That is a blind side sucker punch. That is suspendable .
- VANTEL

I agree. The guy gets away with more poop than anyone. If he tore his ACL, I wouldn't feel bad for him. Hate to say that, but ...

I agree. The guy gets away with more poop than anyone. If he tore his ACL, I wouldn't feel bad for him. Hate to say that, but ...
- Oneonta Penguin

If he and Cooke both took out each other's knee with a career ending knee ,the hockey world would laugh

Morning thoughts.

This year seems to be a cluster(frank) already.

With the teams like SJ Pitt Boston going down early it makes more players available for this offseason. At TDL there was Kesler and Kesler. He submitted 6 teams and four were not interested. Now with ANA making a deeper run they may second guess. With Pitt possibly being blown up and frankly not having much more success than us , why would he want to go there? Why would teams not go after a 40 goal Pavelski second line center instead of Kesler?

Bieksa seems to be the hot commodity which will complete the final rallying cry of DCT Dishiddy and myself from years back. Play Schneider , Trade Bieksa and Fire AV.
There is hope that he can bring in a top 6 player.

Little to no interest seems to be buzzing around Edler.

NTCs tie up the GMs hands and we are chasing a GM that's style was the big bad Bruins.

As DCT said a few weeks ago ,by the time we get on board with chasing a style, it is out dated. Habs taught the rest of the league don't engage with those idiots and you can beat them. Chicago proved it last year also.

Will be an interesting next couple of weeks.

Without those two we basically have a ringette team.
- DrChristianTroy

Are you concerned we may not do as good as 24 th overall next year?

Morning thoughts.

This year seems to be a cluster(frank) already.

With the teams like SJ Pitt Boston going down early it makes more players available for this offseason. At TDL there was Kesler and Kesler. He submitted 6 teams and four were not interested. Now with ANA making a deeper run they may second guess. With Pitt possibly being blown up and frankly not having much more success than us , why would he want to go there? Why would teams not go after a 40 goal Pavelski second line center instead of Kesler?

Bieksa seems to be the hot commodity which will complete the final rallying cry of DCT Dishiddy and myself from years back. Play Schneider , Trade Bieksa and Fire AV.
There is hope that he can bring in a top 6 player.

Little to no interest seems to be buzzing around Edler.

NTCs tie up the GMs hands and we are chasing a GM that's style was the big bad Bruins.

As DCT said a few weeks ago ,by the time we get on board with chasing a style, it is out dated. Habs taught the rest of the league don't engage with those idiots and you can beat them. Chicago proved it last year also.

Will be an interesting next couple of weeks.
- VANTEL

You really think Pittsburgh is blowing it up and trading either Crosby or Malkin? I'm laughing.

You really think Pittsburgh is blowing it up and trading either Crosby or Malkin? I'm laughing.
- Oneonta Penguin

Not those two players but I think everyone else is on the block.

Not those two players but I think everyone else is on the block.
- VANTEL

Letang and Neal are on the blocks. Kunitz isn't going anywhere. So, as long as you have Crosby and Malkin and guys like Kunitz as forwards, you aren't exactly blowing it up. I would think Kesler might be intrigued to play with either. Who knows?

Maatta isn't on the block; Martin isn't on the block. Don't say everyone else.

I believe Sutter might have taken himself off the expendable list. He proved his worth since the trade deadline. Get him capable wingers, not named Glass or Pyatt, he can play some good hockey.

Changes are coming, but no core pieces absent the two I mentioned, aren't going anywhere.

Morning thoughts.

This year seems to be a cluster(frank) already.

With the teams like SJ Pitt Boston going down early it makes more players available for this offseason. At TDL there was Kesler and Kesler. He submitted 6 teams and four were not interested. Now with ANA making a deeper run they may second guess. With Pitt possibly being blown up and frankly not having much more success than us , why would he want to go there? Why would teams not go after a 40 goal Pavelski second line center instead of Kesler?

Bieksa seems to be the hot commodity which will complete the final rallying cry of DCT Dishiddy and myself from years back. Play Schneider , Trade Bieksa and Fire AV.
There is hope that he can bring in a top 6 player.

Little to no interest seems to be buzzing around Edler.

NTCs tie up the GMs hands and we are chasing a GM that's style was the big bad Bruins.

As DCT said a few weeks ago ,by the time we get on board with chasing a style, it is out dated. Habs taught the rest of the league don't engage with those idiots and you can beat them. Chicago proved it last year also.

Will be an interesting next couple of weeks.
- VANTEL

The thing is, the big bruising team style that the Bruins play can work if the players have offensive talent and can skate. The Bruins got exposed the last couple of years because they traded away Seguin who had the speed to keep up with the faster players on other teams. It doesn't help that the Bruins lately have had so much success that it bred arrogance and a sense of entitlement with some of their players. They also started to get a lot of calls against them after having so much slack from the refs and the NHL.

Letang and Neal are on the blocks. Kunitz isn't going anywhere. So, as long as you have Crosby and Malkin and guys like Kunitz as forwards, you aren't exactly blowing it up. I would think Kesler might be intrigued to play with either. Who knows?

Maatta isn't on the block; Martin isn't on the block. Don't say everyone else.

I believe Sutter might have taken himself off the expendable list. He proved his worth since the trade deadline. Get him capable wingers, not named Glass or Pyatt, he can play some good hockey.

Changes are coming, but no core pieces absent the two I mentioned, aren't going anywhere.
- Oneonta Penguin

If Letang and Neal are the only two guys your team is offering up don't expect too many takers , and forget about progress next year unless you have some special player who is going to light it up.

Pitts keeping their current roster are two years away from not making the playoffs.

I'd drive Kesler to the airport

and I'd pay for the cab for Bieksa
- 1970vintage

No deal unless you will reimburse Kesler for his kids private school fees.

If Letang and Neal are the only two guys your team is offering up don't expect too many takers , and forget about progress next year unless you have some special player who is going to light it up.

Pitts keeping their current roster are two years away from not making the playoffs.
- VANTEL

Keeping Malkin, Crosby, Kunitz, Sutter, Martin, and Maatta as your core is a pretty good start. Stop with two years being out of the play-offs. We aren't devoid of talent like Vancouver. And ... there are alot of idiot GMs out there that will overpay for either player. Too bad your last GM isn't still there. He would have been one idiot that would have. He was terrible.

You don't trade players like Malkin and Crosby. You don't get the value needed in a return. Ask Pittsburgh what happened when it dealt Jagr; ask Edmonton what happened when Wayne got traded. Neither franchise got anything of true value for either to sustain a winning formula.

From my long distance viewpoint, you have a long way to go to be a play-off team. I see two players in the Sedins that aren't elite anymore and your third best player, Kesler (might be your best) wants out.

Not trying to be a troll at all. Just throwing out the obvious that you should know.

Vantel - I've read that Dallas has some serious interest in both Kesler and Edler. I like some of their prospects but they have little in the way of NHL ready young players…thoughts?

Keeping Malkin, Crosby, Kunitz, Sutter, Martin, and Maatta as your core is a pretty good start. Stop with two years being out of the play-offs. We aren't devoid of talent like Vancouver. And ... there are alot of idiot GMs out there that will overpay for either player. Too bad your last GM isn't still there. He would have been one idiot that would have. He was terrible.

You don't trade players like Malkin and Crosby. You don't get the value needed in a return. Ask Pittsburgh what happened when it dealt Jagr; ask Edmonton what happened when Wayne got traded. Neither franchise got anything of true value for either to sustain a winning formula.

From my long distance viewpoint, you have a long way to go to be a play-off team. I see two players in the Sedins that aren't elite anymore and your third best player, Kesler (might be your best) wants out.

Not trying to be a troll at all. Just throwing out the obvious that you should know.
- Oneonta Penguin

I think it's been stated many times, Kelser does not want "out". That said, he's one of the best bargaining chips to allow for a re-tool on the fly, that's the premise behind trading him.