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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:10 PM ET
Come on MAF open up that 5 hole nice and wide.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 13 @ 7:12 PM ET
How about the Twins for Malkin
- VANTEL


How about a TWIN for Malkin
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 13 @ 7:13 PM ET
How about the Twins for Malkin
- VANTEL

That's what I would offer, you would need those other assets to play with Malkin.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
My understanding is, like AV, Trotz was not very good in working/developing the young talent (and no, Jones doesn't count as he already had all the tools and hockey sense even before he was drafted. In fact, out of this year's rookie class, I have to say that Jones has impressed me the most (MacKinnon's play was expected) due to just how seamlessly he integrated into the system, playing huge minutes and being one of their best players.

Edit: Jones at only 19 is already a franchise defenseman. Just surreal
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

May 13 @ 7:19 PM ET
Come on MAF open up that 5 hole nice and wide.
- VANTEL


Awesome.





The twins for Malkin and we'll retain all of Danny's salary...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:19 PM ET
My understanding is, like AV, Trotz was not very good in working/developing the young talent (and no, Jones doesn't count as he already had all the tools and hockey sense even before he was drafted. In fact, out of this year's rookie class, I have to say that Jones has impressed me the most (MacKinnon's play was expected) due to just how seamlessly he integrated into the system, playing huge minutes and being one of their best players.

Edit: Jones at only 19 is already a franchise defenseman. Just surreal

- Zogg

Makes Weber movable. Flyers will be happy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:20 PM ET
Awesome.





The twins for Malkin and we'll retain all of Danny's salary...

- Jim_Robson

I would,retain the difference in salary for the four years keeping us at 14 mil
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:28 PM ET
Does anyone else think Crosby looks like Dirk Diggler with his pornstache?
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

May 13 @ 7:30 PM ET
I would,retain the difference in salary for the four years keeping us at 14 mil
- VANTEL


I'm actually Trevor Linden... I've been monitoring this blog looking for potential GM candidates. Congrats Vantel, you're hired.

Additionally, to keep season's ticket holders pleased, we've given Mike Gillis a lifetime ban from Rodgers Arena.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm actually Trevor Linden... I've been monitoring this blog looking for potential GM candidates. Congrats Vantel, you're hired.

Additionally, to keep season's ticket holders pleased, we given Mike Gillis a lifetime ban from Rodgers Arena.

- Jim_Robson


Gillis is being interviewed for GM in Washington, he is as good as gone.

And no thanks to the GM offer it would cut into my HB time and Asian Hooker time
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

May 13 @ 7:32 PM ET
Gillis is being interviewed for GM in Washington, he is as good as gone.
- VANTEL


Yeah, that blows my mind.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:34 PM ET
Yeah, that blows my mind.
- Jim_Robson

I bet he doesn't hand out more NTCs
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
Come on MAF open up that 5 hole nice and wide.
- VANTEL


Vantel, on a slightly different topic, I'm wondering if you've noticed the significant decline in Malkin's production the last few years (let's strike out the one bounce-back year which you/we also did as concerns Henrik's 112 point season in terms of being an anomaly)

2008-2009 - 113 points in 82 games
2009-2010 - 77 points in 67 games - pro-rated 94 points in 82 games (same year that Henrik had 112 points in 82 games)
2010-2011 - 37 points in 43 games - pro-rated 70 points in 82 games (same year Henrik had 94 points in 82 games)
2011-2012 - 109 points in 75 games (strike this year out as a bounce back anomoly)
2012-2013- 33 points in 31 games - pro rated to 87 points in 82 games
2013-2014 - 72 points in 62 games - 88 points in 82 games

As you can see, since 2008-2009 we''ve seen a drop off of 25 points to levels of point-per-game status. Yikes!

A few more fun facts:

Games played since 2006 - Henrik - 610
Games played since 2006 - Malkin - 518

Cap hits - Henrik - $7 million through 2017
Cap hits - Malkin - $9.5 million through 2019-2020

Only major diffference in favour of Malkin is age

So, who provides the better over-all value and production?
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

May 13 @ 7:44 PM ET
Gillis is being interviewed for GM in Washington, he is as good as gone.

And no thanks to the GM offer it would cut into my HB time and Asian Hooker time

- VANTEL


Lets go share a grilled-cheese sandwich at The #5 Orange to discuss this further. I would even throw in a lifetime membership to my shi**y fitness facilities.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:45 PM ET
Lets go share a grilled-cheese sandwich at The #5 Orange to discuss this further. I would even throw in a lifetime membership to my shi**y fitness facilities.
- Jim_Robson

You could advertise me as the Rob Ford of GMs less the weight.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:46 PM ET
Vantel, on a slightly different topic, I'm wondering if you've noticed the significant decline in Malkin's production the last few years (let's strike out the one bounce-back year which you/we also did as concerns Henrik's 112 point season in terms of being an anomaly)

2008-2009 - 113 points in 82 games
2009-2010 - 77 points in 67 games - pro-rated 94 points in 82 games (same year that Henrik has 112 points in 82 games)
2010-2011 - 37 points in 43 games - pro-rated 70 points in 82 games (same year Henrik had 94 points in 82 games)
2011-2012 - 109 points in 75 games (strike this year out as a bounce back anomoly)
2012-2013- 33 points in 31 games - pro rated to 87 points in 82 games
2013-2014 - 72 points in 62 games - 88 points in 82 games

As you can see, since 2008-2009 we''ve seen a drop off of 25 points to levels of point-per-game status. Yikes!

A few more fun facts:

Games played since 2006 - Henrik - 610
Games played since 2006 - Malkin - 518

Cap hits - Henrik - $7 million through 2017
Cap hits - Malkin - $9.5 million through 2019-2020

Only major diffference in favour of Malkin is age

So, who provides the better over-all value and production?

- Zogg


I will mark you on keep the Twins side. Might get lonely there.
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

May 13 @ 7:47 PM ET
Vantel, on a slightly different topic, I'm wondering if you've noticed the significant decline in Malkin's production the last few years (let's strike out the one bounce-back year which you/we also did as concerns Henrik's 112 point season in terms of being an anomaly)

2008-2009 - 113 points in 82 games
2009-2010 - 77 points in 67 games - pro-rated 94 points in 82 games (same year that Henrik has 112 points in 82 games)
2010-2011 - 37 points in 43 games - pro-rated 70 points in 82 games (same year Henrik had 94 points in 82 games)
2011-2012 - 109 points in 75 games (strike this year out as a bounce back anomoly)
2012-2013- 33 points in 31 games - pro rated to 87 points in 82 games
2013-2014 - 72 points in 62 games - 88 points in 82 games

As you can see, since 2008-2009 we''ve seen a drop off of 25 points to levels of point-per-game status. Yikes!

A few more fun facts:

Games played since 2006 - Henrik - 610
Games played since 2006 - Malkin - 518

Cap hits - Henrik - $7 million through 2017
Cap hits - Malkin - $9.5 million through 2019-2020

Only major diffference in favour of Malkin is age

So, who provides the better over-all value and production?

- Zogg


He also has a Conn Smythe and a cup...
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 13 @ 7:48 PM ET
He also has a Conn Smythe and a cup...
- Jim_Robson


We are talking about using stats only as a basis of analysis, which is what Vantel did as concerns the Twins
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

May 13 @ 7:48 PM ET
You could advertise me as the Rob Ford of GMs less the weight.
- VANTEL


Excellent. You won't be needing that membership then...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:48 PM ET
He also has a Conn Smythe and a cup...
- Jim_Robson

I didn't want to bring up the cup that was too easy.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 13 @ 7:48 PM ET
I will mark you on keep the Twins side. Might get lonely there.
- VANTEL


I think it's fairly crowded as it is
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 13 @ 7:50 PM ET
I didn't want to bring up the cup that was too easy.
- VANTEL



Your basis for Sedins value/production was based on STATS only.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 13 @ 7:52 PM ET
He also has a Conn Smythe and a cup...
- Jim_Robson


It would have been interesting to see how Henrik/Daniel would have done playing with Crosby, Letang, Kunitz, Neal etc etc. And conversely, how much success Malkin would have playing with plugs most of his career
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 13 @ 7:54 PM ET
Your basis for Sedins value/production was based on STATS only.
- Zogg

You are so wrong . There are so many levels as why I dislike having the twins on the Canucks . Declining stats, is just one reason. Lack of toughness and leadership is another. Taking ice time from young players . Puck hogs . Do we really need to get into this crap again? I have been quiet for days about them, let's just all keep quiet and see how they do next year.

BTW it is mostly Daniels contract I dislike but like everything in their life it has to be done together. One can't fart without the other stinking.

I still think Henrik is a top line center but because he needs to hold his brothers hand he is a 14 mil dollar center.
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

May 13 @ 7:56 PM ET
We are talking about using stats only as a basis of analysis, which is what Vantel did as concerns the Twins
- Zogg


Right, sorry.

I imagine Ekland will be breaking the Sedins and Kesler to Pittsburgh rumour shortly. (E16 Confirmed epic blockbuster)
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