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The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 11 @ 9:55 PM ET
Stastny is literally the perfect signing at 6.5 for 5 or 6

Draft virtanen
And here comes the potential and team next year

Sedin sedin burr
Kassian stastny kesler
Higgins horvat jensen
Hansen Richie Mathias
Booth shinkaruk virtanen shrink comes up half way through the year stastny is absolutely perfect for us
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 9:57 PM ET
Stastny is literally the perfect signing at 6.5 for 5 or 6

Draft virtanen
And here comes the potential and team next year

Sedin sedin burr
Kassian stastny kesler
Higgins horvat jensen
Hansen Richie Mathias
Booth shinkaruk virtanen shrink comes up half way through the year stastny is absolutely perfect for us

- The_Kuze

Who is Richie and how did we get him?

Do you mean Richardson?

One roster change. Gillis?
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 9:58 PM ET
Agreed. Another thought I had was if a team felt they were close and looking for that critical veteran piece to push them firmly into the Cup contender discussion (eg MIN), they might be willing to sacrifice a piece for the future for a piece right now (ie Kesler). It would really have to be one of those "all-in" decisions for a GM to consider parting with the types we've been discussing: Granlund, Johanson, Schenn, etc.

And yet another possible consideration if a franchise is in the toilet and desperately needs a face to put on the banners (Kesler) and put butts in seats. Florida is a one such franchise that comes to mind. After seeing home tickets on StubHub selling for less than $5, how much worse can it really get?

- AlexF

Johansen is going nowhere, he's the real deal for Columbus. Also, Kesler would never agree to go to Florida IMO.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 11 @ 10:00 PM ET
Johansen is going nowhere, he's the real deal for Columbus. Also, Kesler would never agree to go to Florida IMO.
- LeftCoaster


Who knows, we're speculating. But those are the alternative scenarios that come to mind in finding a willing trade partner.

Of course if Kesler plants his feet on his desired locations then the return will most likely be less than grand.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:01 PM ET
Cup checks should be 2 game suspensions.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 11 @ 10:02 PM ET
Cup checks should be 2 game suspensions.
- VANTEL


Spearing is the new black.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:03 PM ET
Spearing is the new black.
- AlexF

No kidding
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 10:04 PM ET
Who knows, we're speculating. But those are the alternative scenarios that come to mind in finding a willing trade partner.

Of course if Kesler plants his feet on his desired locations then the return will most likely be less than grand.

- AlexF

I've scouring thru the depth charts to see who's a good fit, can't really come up with anyone who's already established except maybe Brassard, O'Reiily or Schenn?
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 10:05 PM ET
If Chicago loses they may pay up for Kesler via Terevainen.

But he needs a year in the AHL to "soak".
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:06 PM ET
I've scouring thru the depth charts to see who's a good fit, can't really come up with anyone who's already established except maybe Brassard, O'Reiily or Schenn?
- LeftCoaster

Isn't ROR going to cost 6 mil?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 11 @ 10:07 PM ET
I was/am stating that if you want change then you actually have to do something about it.

I have seen a lot of posts on movement to make change being shot down by fans that don't want to let go of players.

- VANTEL


I've always been open to moving players to change the chemistry and provide an influx of youth if at all possible, in order to improve our team The only players that I feel strongly about retaining (unless there was a mind-boggling deal out there where the return would be monumental) are the high end prospects (Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk etc) the Sedins, Burrows, Kassian, Hamhuis, Booth (as has been discussed earlier he has one year left on his contract and he finally seems to be healthy - additionally, he was one of Canucks best players down the stretch) as well as some footsoldiers like Higgins, Hansen (although I'd be open to moving them as well if the we got decent value for either).

For the right return I would have no problem in moving the likes of Kesler, Edler, Bieksa (although on the fence about him), Garrison, just off the top of my head.

The problem is, even if for whatever reason management or fans demanded the Sedins be moved, realistically it's just no feasible, for many reasons that have already been discussed. In Burrows case, he brings much more to the table than stats, and we would get nowhere near a fair return for him. It's fun to be creative and put forth some significant trade proposals but most of these hypotheticals are simply not realistic whether due to cap-concerns, NTC, quality or return coming back etc, just to name a few of the many factors involved
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 10:09 PM ET
Isn't ROR going to cost 6 mil?
- VANTEL

Ya but he's worth it
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:11 PM ET
Ya but he's worth it
- LeftCoaster

I guess you slotted him in as top 6 and not third line like AVs ?

I like him but I am on the fence as to whether he can produce enough offence.

I have Horvat slotted in as second line center at a much cheaper rate (no numbers mentioned ) in 2015 2016 season.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 10:22 PM ET
I guess you slotted him in as top 6 and not third line like AVs ?

I like him but I am on the fence as to whether he can produce enough offence.

I have Horvat slotted in as second line center at a much cheaper rate (no numbers mentioned ) in 2015 2016 season.

- VANTEL

He played wing all year because they had Duchene and Stastny as their 1/2. Mostly anyways.

Edit: he had 28 goals and 64 pts - WTF does a kid have to do to impress you? Which is 18th in league scoring out of 750 players by the way.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:24 PM ET
He played wing all year because they had Duchene and Stastny as their 1/2. Mostly anyways.

Edit: he had 28 goals and 64 pts - WTF does a kid have to do to impress you?

- LeftCoaster

Who are you trading for him?

I never knew his numbers . From the few games I seen of him he plays gritty and I always thought of him as a third liner. I never knew his NUMBERS
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 11 @ 10:29 PM ET


You have the best one liners

- VANTEL

And apparently you have the best threesomes.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 10:31 PM ET
Who are you trading for him?
- VANTEL

Edler and Tanev?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:31 PM ET
And apparently you have the best threesomes.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Both are very amusing.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 10:32 PM ET
Who are you trading for him?

I never knew his numbers . From the few games I seen of him he plays gritty and I always thought of him as a third liner. I never knew his NUMBERS

- VANTEL

The good doctor doesn't like him because he's soft. Granlund is soft and I'd love to have him, all in your perception I guess.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:32 PM ET
Edler and Tanev?
- LeftCoaster



Ok .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:32 PM ET
The good doctor doesn't like him because he's soft. Granlund is soft and I'd love to have him, all in your perception I guess.
- LeftCoaster



Yeah DCT calls him a pillow biter.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 11 @ 10:33 PM ET
Both are very amusing.
- VANTEL

My only 3some was with 2 sisters, so it was 2 twosomes, not really the same.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 11 @ 10:35 PM ET
My only 3some was with 2 sisters, so it was 2 twosomes, not really the same.
- A_SteamingLombardi



I won't get into the details
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 10:50 PM ET
In an ideal world Horvat would come into camp this fall, play lights out, and earn that second line center spot. A 40 to 50 point year would be awesome! Trading Kesler, Edler and or Higgins for a LW'er would then be priority number one.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 11 @ 10:54 PM ET
Matt Moulson is now a healthy scratch. I wonder if that will hurt his wage demands this offseason.
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